Chosen by God - A study in Election

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Very emotional statements but not always true of every believer. Paul warns us to not quench the Holy Spirit. In Ephesians 4:30 Paul warns us again to not grieve the Holy Spirit.

John 15:8.

When you produce much fruit,you are my true disciples.
This brings great glory to my Father.
 
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How can anyone who is born again,not know that God dwells within them.?

After 45 yrs....plus I had to show scripture to a member...I find that bizarre.

They actually denied that scripture as well.
You showed me nothing....your quote of Jesus living in your heart was false....nice try to twist the facts....you are one of the most dishonest people on this site....and yep...false teachers shall be known by their fruit...your fruit is a gospel-less, forced salvation.....
 

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John 15:8.

When you produce much fruit,you are my true disciples.
This brings great glory to my Father.
True, but there are Christians who are not disciples. Are you bearing much fruit? Are you leading many to Jesus Christ?
 
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She is as dishonest as they come...no surprise there.....her gospel-less, forced salvation is a primo example!

You need to stop accusing me of not being saved,I said I had never read a bible,before I was saved....show me on this forum where I said I never received the word?

Show me?......

God chose me,he drew me and his word penetrated the depths of my heart,..I had a very private revelation between God and I...my testimony, also most of it was personal,which I don’t have to explain to you.....

And you hate it,....,

I wonder what you are,I truly do.
 
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True, but there are Christians who are not disciples. Are you bearing much fruit? Are you leading many to Jesus Christ?

A true disciple bears fruit,are you denying scripture?...I don’t agree with the last part of your post.

Me ,bearing fruit,it’s not about me,...ask yourself that question.

Every opportunity I get,I witness about God,I can’t help it,he lives/ dwells in my heart,....He chose me for a reason and purpose,one is to Glorify His Name.
 
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If she thinks God can do evil she does she know the word of God....oh wait....we already know that she does not know the word of God

Again,you are a manipulator and a twister of words,I quoted scripture....

I think it is you,who has the problem of not accepting God’s word...especially the drawing,choosing his children,that’s how a true Christian knows they are born again,The Lord witnessed to my spirit that I was his child.....from what I read of your posts,it’s just human knowledge,I see nothing of the Holy Spirit in anything you say...only scripture,which imo you misinterpret.

You are a sower of discord,all over this site.
 
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You showed me nothing....your quote of Jesus living in your heart was false....nice try to twist the facts....you are one of the most dishonest people on this site....and yep...false teachers shall be known by their fruit...your fruit is a gospel-less, forced salvation.....

I quoted you scripture that Jesus dwells in the heart of a believer.....you didn’t know that,that is why you asked me to quote scripture.

I was amazed that a born again didn’t know that...the night of my salvation,my thoughts were full of Jesus and the Holy Spirit penetrated deep into my heart.

I gave my life there and then...I made no choice in my saving because God chose me........my saving by God was amazing.
 
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I quoted you scripture that Jesus dwells in the heart of a believer.....you didn’t know that,that is why you asked me to quote scripture.

I was amazed that a born again didn’t know that...the night of my salvation,my thoughts were full of Jesus and the Holy Spirit penetrated deep into my heart.

I gave my life there and then...I made no choice in my saving because God chose me........my saving by God was amazing.

The point is understanding what is meant by the expression in context and according to the verbiage of the text .. do you think Jesus lives inside an organ in your body?

And believe me you do not know more than @dcontroversal by any stretch of the imagination.
 
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The point is understanding what is meant by the expression in context and according to the verbiage of the text .. do you think Jesus lives inside an organ in your body?

And believe me you do not know more than @dcontroversal by any stretch of the imagination.

For one thing,you have no idea what I know and what the Holy Spirit has revealed to me.

You seem to not understand where the Holy Spirit dwells in a believer.
Which I find rather bizarre......on my receiving the Holy Spirit ,straight into my inner being,there he dwells ..changing me day by day.

As for thinking that I thought he lived in my organ....what ever made you say that..?....a true born again knows this.that he dwells in their inner being,for me straight away on the night of my salvation.

When you are chosen by God,one knows this,because we have been born again,we belong to God,no more alienated from Him....we start our walk with the Holy Spirit....
 
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I quoted you scripture that Jesus dwells in the heart of a believer.....you didn’t know that,that is why you asked me to quote scripture.

I was amazed that a born again didn’t know that...the night of my salvation,my thoughts were full of Jesus and the Holy Spirit penetrated deep into my heart.

I gave my life there and then...I made no choice in my saving because God chose me........my saving by God was amazing.
Can God do evil?
 

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A true disciple bears fruit,are you denying scripture?...I don’t agree with the last part of your post.

Me ,bearing fruit,it’s not about me,...ask yourself that question.

Every opportunity I get,I witness about God,I can’t help it,he lives/ dwells in my heart,....He chose me for a reason and purpose,one is to Glorify His Name.
You're equating disciples with believers. There are believers who are not disciples. They may be immature in their faith, babes in Christ. There are believers who have no discipleship whatsoever, no church, no bible, nothing.
 
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You need to stop accusing me of not being saved,I said I had never read a bible,before I was saved....show me on this forum where I said I never received the word?

Show me?......

God chose me,he drew me and his word penetrated the depths of my heart,..I had a very private revelation between God and I...my testimony, also most of it was personal,which I don’t have to explain to you.....

And you hate it,....,

I wonder what you are,I truly do.
What "word" would that be?
 
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What "word" would that be?

You are asking me all these questions,...yet when I ask you as did Awelight we get zero/ nada..why is that?

Worry about your own salvation and leave me to mine......

Certain scripture you skip around....
 
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You're equating disciples with believers. There are believers who are not disciples. They may be immature in their faith, babes in Christ. There are believers who have no discipleship whatsoever, no church, no bible, nothing.

I have no idea what you are saying here,rather than try to answer your question by my own understanding,I ask the Holy Spirit to help me understand it.

A born again in my belief starts to bear fruit straight away as they have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit...a new heart and the start of the renewing of the mind.
 

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I have no idea what you are saying here,rather than try to answer your question by my own understanding,I ask the Holy Spirit to help me understand it.

A born again in my belief starts to bear fruit straight away as they have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit...a new heart and the start of the renewing of the mind.
How does one grow?...through the word of God. This is not available to everyone. Many may not ever grow in their faith. They have no idea what it looks like.
 
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The point is understanding what is meant by the expression in context and according to the verbiage of the text .. do you think Jesus lives inside an organ in your body?

And believe me you do not know more than @dcontroversal by any stretch of the imagination.

I sometimes wonder when I see your posts...if you put dc first and are a follower of him.?

You surely know that God must be number 1....we must completely rely on Him....so no other God’s before the Lord.?
 
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How does one grow?...through the word of God. This is not available to everyone. Many may not ever grow in their faith. They have no idea what it looks like.
If you have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit,then you should know the answer to your own question.

Sorry,I can’t help you on that one,only God can reveal that to you.
 
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