Christ in You is the Hope of Glory.
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2 Peter 3
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.[c] 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.
14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
HEAVEN is a PLACE and the PROMISE of A NEW EARTH and Heaven will be heralded in with the PHYSICAL destruction of THIS WORLD and all the liars and deceiving spirits therein will be cast into the lake of Fire.
Repent NOW while it is still TODAY and seek GOD so that HE might heal you. Reject the lies and fables of your mind and SEEK GOD's Truth.
For JESUS CHRIST is LORD and SAVIOR of the WORLD and by no other name is there Salvation and IN no other person save the person of Christ JESUS! the ONLY Begotten SON of GOD!
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.[c] 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.
14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
HEAVEN is a PLACE and the PROMISE of A NEW EARTH and Heaven will be heralded in with the PHYSICAL destruction of THIS WORLD and all the liars and deceiving spirits therein will be cast into the lake of Fire.
Repent NOW while it is still TODAY and seek GOD so that HE might heal you. Reject the lies and fables of your mind and SEEK GOD's Truth.
For JESUS CHRIST is LORD and SAVIOR of the WORLD and by no other name is there Salvation and IN no other person save the person of Christ JESUS! the ONLY Begotten SON of GOD!
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Matthew 7:15
King James Version (KJV)
15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves
What do you suppose sheeps clothing are?.....hint: hes not talking about actual material garments here.
U knew that!
King James Version (KJV)
15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves
What do you suppose sheeps clothing are?.....hint: hes not talking about actual material garments here.
U knew that!
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they claim to have Christ's spirit in them but deny that Jesus was born of the VIRGIN Mary but instead say that Jesus was born of JOSEPH and MARY and that they can be JUST LIKE JESUS and deny that Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of GOD and that Jesus is the only CHRIST but would seek to take for themselves GOD's POWER and GLORY.
Denying the PHYSICAL bodily resurrection of Christ JESUS and the promise of the resurrection to come, His second coming and FINAL Judgment of the world of the living and the dead.
Denying the PHYSICAL bodily resurrection of Christ JESUS and the promise of the resurrection to come, His second coming and FINAL Judgment of the world of the living and the dead.
What you mean is I dont know Jesus because it goes against your laws for tradition. But what I do know is I have the same in me Mary had in her, same Christ same SPirit of God that came to her came to me. Cant relate to that can you?
It isnt my gospel at all, Christ in you, His PSirit in you, You being one with Him, is not my ideah at all. it is His idea.
God is not waiting for me at all He came to me and made His abode in me already. What you mean is why dont I come and repent and follow your way instead of His.
Indeed heaven is a place. Behold the kingdom of God is within you, it does not come with observation it is within you just as Jesus said it is. And He does bring a new heaven and earth, He sets aside that place you are looking for that doesn’t come with observation and puts His abode in you, the place God dwells. His vessel, His Temple. And in His coming to you and making His abode in you this earth is destroyed no more earthly doctrines placed on you by man, and the liars are exposed to you and all things has become new to you.
As He said, Behold the kingdom of God is withn you. Christ in you. Cant see that kingdom can you?
And repentance is from self, put aside your doctrine and put on the Christ, let Him be formed in you instead of your way for Him.
Everyone who recieves from God His PSirit, His seed is virgin to Him until that seed is planted in you. That is the only way you can have a virgin birth, CHrist in you, same one who was in Mary and same one who was in Jesus. Let this same Spirit be in you who raised Christ from the dead. Until then He is not raised at all. You hold Him to a grave.
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You believe yourself and others powerful enough to hold JESUS CHRIST in the Grave, but its a LIE.
the same lie you and your cohorts used to convince others to nail Jesus to the cross. The LORD Rebuke You.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJIDS-ge8V8[/video]
PRAISE THE LORD FOR CHRIST HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE and has Ascended into HEAVEN to be with GOD ALMIGHTY, Maker of Heaven and Earth.
Dear Heavenly Father we ask for Your guidance, Your mercy and grace to silence the lies if it is Your will and to protect the eyes and ears of Your children from deception and the lies of deceiving spirits. In Jesus name, we pray, Amen.
Matthew 28
1 Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. 2 And behold, there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door,[a] and sat on it. 3 His countenance was like lightning, and his clothing as white as snow. 4 And the guards shook for fear of him, and became like dead men.
5 But the angel answered and said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified. 6 He is not here; for He is risen, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. 7 And go quickly and tell His disciples that He is risen from the dead, and indeed He is going before you into Galilee; there you will see Him. Behold, I have told you.”
8 So they went out quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to bring His disciples word.
9 And as they went to tell His disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, “Rejoice!” So they came and held Him by the feet and worshiped Him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid. Go and tell My brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see Me.”
18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore[c] and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.[d]
JESUS is the one and ONLY CHRIST, the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF GOD and to HIM is ALL power given in Heaven and on Earth to JESUS Christ
not to the spirit inside GaryMac who denies Jesus Bodily resurrection and HIS virgin Birth, who only claims to be in Christ but does not manifest the truthful fruit therein.
the same lie you and your cohorts used to convince others to nail Jesus to the cross. The LORD Rebuke You.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJIDS-ge8V8[/video]
PRAISE THE LORD FOR CHRIST HAS RISEN FROM THE GRAVE and has Ascended into HEAVEN to be with GOD ALMIGHTY, Maker of Heaven and Earth.
Dear Heavenly Father we ask for Your guidance, Your mercy and grace to silence the lies if it is Your will and to protect the eyes and ears of Your children from deception and the lies of deceiving spirits. In Jesus name, we pray, Amen.
Matthew 28
1 Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. 2 And behold, there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door,[a] and sat on it. 3 His countenance was like lightning, and his clothing as white as snow. 4 And the guards shook for fear of him, and became like dead men.
5 But the angel answered and said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified. 6 He is not here; for He is risen, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. 7 And go quickly and tell His disciples that He is risen from the dead, and indeed He is going before you into Galilee; there you will see Him. Behold, I have told you.”
8 So they went out quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to bring His disciples word.
9 And as they went to tell His disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, “Rejoice!” So they came and held Him by the feet and worshiped Him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid. Go and tell My brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see Me.”
18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore[c] and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.[d]
JESUS is the one and ONLY CHRIST, the ONLY BEGOTTEN OF GOD and to HIM is ALL power given in Heaven and on Earth to JESUS Christ
not to the spirit inside GaryMac who denies Jesus Bodily resurrection and HIS virgin Birth, who only claims to be in Christ but does not manifest the truthful fruit therein.
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1 Corinthians 15
12 Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. 14 And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 15 Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up—if in fact the dead do not rise. 16 For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. 17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! 18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable.
12 Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. 14 And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 15 Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up—if in fact the dead do not rise. 16 For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. 17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! 18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable.
You say the second coming has already occur...............LIE
You say Jesus Christ is not God manifested in flesh...................LIE
You say Jesus Christ was not born from a virgin............LIE
You say you and the Father are one.............LIE
Sorry to say this but you have so much lies in your truth that i saw it from day one.
A lie mixed in with truth is much like rat poison, which contains 99% good food and 1% poison - its that 1% of poison (or lie) that will kill you!
Sounds familiar Gary?
You say Jesus Christ is not God manifested in flesh...................LIE
You say Jesus Christ was not born from a virgin............LIE
You say you and the Father are one.............LIE
Sorry to say this but you have so much lies in your truth that i saw it from day one.
A lie mixed in with truth is much like rat poison, which contains 99% good food and 1% poison - its that 1% of poison (or lie) that will kill you!
Sounds familiar Gary?
Amen, Thank you for that prayer. He cant help but answer it. Your life will be changed because of it now that you have asked Him.
And these who were with Jesus, dint recognize Him at all after he rose did they? The only way they recognized it to be him is when he spoke. And that is the only way you will recognize him is when He speaks to you directly as well. He in you and you in Him as one. and that is the only way you will hear Him when He does speak if He is.
Exactly, how can you sit here and say there is no resurrection of the dead, and these will not be raised until Christ comes. What you don’t see is He is come and we who were dead in Christ are raised to meet with Him. And if Christ is not risen and the dead raised then your preaching is empty and your faith is empty, Truth is He is risen and we are raised, You who say He is not come yet, not risen yet, do not know what it is to have a risen Savior.
Truth is He is raised from the dead is come has raised me up from the dead, took away my sin and I sit with Him in His throne, Rev 3:22.
Truth is He is raised from the dead is come has raised me up from the dead, took away my sin and I sit with Him in His throne, Rev 3:22.
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Jesus is THE CHRIST. the ONE and ONLY who died on the Cross and rose again on the third day. He is MORE than just a SPIRIT!
Luke 24
36 Now as they said these things, Jesus Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them, “Peace to you.” 37 But they were terrified and frightened, and supposed they had seen a spirit. 38 And He said to them, “Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.”
40 When He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet.[f] 41 But while they still did not believe for joy, and marveled, He said to them, “Have you any food here?” 42 So they gave Him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb.[g] 43 And He took it and ate in their presence.
44 Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.” 45 And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.
46 Then He said to them, “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise[h] from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem
I know when My Lord Jesus speaks and I know when others speak lies in His name for the HOLY SPIRIT testifies to HIS Truth and the world's lies.
Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, Born of A VIRGIN, from everlasting to everlasting. the Word made Flesh. the ONE and ONLY Christ, who suffered and was raised again for the repentance and remission of sins of the world.
Luke 24
36 Now as they said these things, Jesus Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them, “Peace to you.” 37 But they were terrified and frightened, and supposed they had seen a spirit. 38 And He said to them, “Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.”
40 When He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet.[f] 41 But while they still did not believe for joy, and marveled, He said to them, “Have you any food here?” 42 So they gave Him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb.[g] 43 And He took it and ate in their presence.
44 Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.” 45 And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.
46 Then He said to them, “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise[h] from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem
I know when My Lord Jesus speaks and I know when others speak lies in His name for the HOLY SPIRIT testifies to HIS Truth and the world's lies.
Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, Born of A VIRGIN, from everlasting to everlasting. the Word made Flesh. the ONE and ONLY Christ, who suffered and was raised again for the repentance and remission of sins of the world.
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you lie and deny those who have fallen asleep in Christ.
2 Timothy 2
15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some.
2 Timothy 2
15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some.
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the promise of GOD involves MORE than just this life and rebirth of the Spirit and Heart but also the resurrection of the BODY.
you shortchange all believers with your false doctrines.
Do you still weep with those who sorrow?
Or has your pride harden your heart to even that?
Heaven and God's promise is MORE than this world or this life.
John 14:2
In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Revelation 21:3-5
New King James Version (NKJV)
3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”
5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me,[a] “Write, for these words are true and faithful.””
you shortchange all believers with your false doctrines.
Do you still weep with those who sorrow?
Or has your pride harden your heart to even that?
Heaven and God's promise is MORE than this world or this life.
John 14:2
In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Revelation 21:3-5
New King James Version (NKJV)
3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”
5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me,[a] “Write, for these words are true and faithful.””
It is a lie if you have not seen His second coming. Only because you have not seen Him doent mean others haven’t, it only means you haven’t.
Contrary I have stated over and over that God was manifest in Jesus flesh, He came to Jesus in Mat 3:16 and opened up all of heaven to the man. He did the same in me, He is manifest in my flesh the same, Same Spirit in me who was in Christ Jesus. Salvation is Gods PSirit manifest in your mortal flesh.
Contrary, Jesus was born of a virgin, we all are virgin to Gods spirit until that same seed is planted in you.
And yes I do agree, but is not a lie, I and my Father are one, He in me and I in Him. John 17 really is a truth you should consider and is only a lie if you don’t believe Him and follow that example.
Sounds very familiarand I agree totally -- A lie mixed in with truth is much like rat poison, which contains 99% good food and 1% poison - its that 1% of poison (or lie) that will kill you!
Truth is God sent Christ to me to show me His way, he in me and I in Him as one. Christ in me. If Christ in you is a lie I would seek His truth in this, yours just doesn’t add up to His way. It is that 99% that has you baffled as a lie and that 1% is where you live.
God really did send an example for … I wont say us, I will say me because I know you don’t believe that God sent Jesus to show you the way to be like Him, but He sent an example for me to follow, to be like, to imitate, to walk as He walks, have the same mind as He, same Spirit in me who was in Christ Jesus, pick up that cross and continue where He left off. He in me and In Him, all those things Jesus was sent for to show me I believe Him and applied them.
I know that isn’t for you but it is for me for He is the way, the only way you will know Gods will for you.
Contrary I have stated over and over that God was manifest in Jesus flesh, He came to Jesus in Mat 3:16 and opened up all of heaven to the man. He did the same in me, He is manifest in my flesh the same, Same Spirit in me who was in Christ Jesus. Salvation is Gods PSirit manifest in your mortal flesh.
Contrary, Jesus was born of a virgin, we all are virgin to Gods spirit until that same seed is planted in you.
And yes I do agree, but is not a lie, I and my Father are one, He in me and I in Him. John 17 really is a truth you should consider and is only a lie if you don’t believe Him and follow that example.
Sounds very familiarand I agree totally -- A lie mixed in with truth is much like rat poison, which contains 99% good food and 1% poison - its that 1% of poison (or lie) that will kill you!
Truth is God sent Christ to me to show me His way, he in me and I in Him as one. Christ in me. If Christ in you is a lie I would seek His truth in this, yours just doesn’t add up to His way. It is that 99% that has you baffled as a lie and that 1% is where you live.
God really did send an example for … I wont say us, I will say me because I know you don’t believe that God sent Jesus to show you the way to be like Him, but He sent an example for me to follow, to be like, to imitate, to walk as He walks, have the same mind as He, same Spirit in me who was in Christ Jesus, pick up that cross and continue where He left off. He in me and In Him, all those things Jesus was sent for to show me I believe Him and applied them.
I know that isn’t for you but it is for me for He is the way, the only way you will know Gods will for you.
Okay, Gary, I'm going to try to clarify your position one more time. Are you saying that Jesus was NOT the begotten son of God, born of Mary by way of the Holy Spirit, but rather a normal man who was born of Mary and Joseph (or maybe Mary and some other guy), just a normal man like you, but one who later received the Spirit of Christ, just as you claim to have done? is that what you are telling us? I really do want to know.
Yea that is what he is claiming.
He says Jesus was born a mere man and was God incarnate in Matthew 3:16.... can you imagine this? He isn't worshipping Jesus Christ as we do, he worships the "Christ in him" which ain't the same as the Jesus we worship.
Thus another Jesus = False Gospel.
2 Corinthians 11:4
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
He says Jesus was born a mere man and was God incarnate in Matthew 3:16.... can you imagine this? He isn't worshipping Jesus Christ as we do, he worships the "Christ in him" which ain't the same as the Jesus we worship.
Thus another Jesus = False Gospel.
2 Corinthians 11:4
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.