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Okay then, Gary, I have another question for you. When Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb, who was in the room with her? List everyone you know of, both flesh and spirit.
I dont know, it doesnt say who all was there, it may have been a whole host of people. But when He came to me and put His same seed in me, there were several people there. When He came to Jesus the same I know John was there, they may have been more it doesnt say. How about you. How many was there when He came impregnated you with the Christ?
 

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No, Gary, you avoided my question. Who does the BIBLE SAY was present when Mary conceived Jesus in her womb? There was only one being other than Mary present for certain. Who was it?
 

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In most of your testimonies about your God you say your God is a man and is yet to come and you are waiting His arrival through the clouds. You say your God is coming to deliver you someday from this world. Your God is going to take you out of this world and sit you in some faraway place called heaven a utopia where lil angels fly about in white robes. You say He is going to bring a new heaven and earth. You are much like the Hebrews out of Egypt.

My testimony is God is not a man but Spirit and has come and made His abode in the man. He came to Mary and made His abode in her, He came to Jesus and made His abode in him in Matt 3:16, He brought a new heaven and earth to the man, Mary and Jesus whole life took a different turn after this event. He did to Paul on the road to Damascus. He did the same in 120 in an upper room, and He did the same in Moses and some others. and He did the same in me.

I no longer have to look through a cloud darkly, he came through that cloud that had me blinded to Him and He did in me what He did in these that we read of. I was like you and was looking for a man as a God, but when I met Him face to face I fell on my face as dead and cried out my Lord and my God I have been deceived for so long, now I see and I am that I am.

You say you have communication with God in prayer and you pray to a God that is not here and is yet to come and reveal to you who He is. May I ask how will you know Him if He stood in front of you and said I am Jesus Christ. How would you distinguish a man claiming to be a God from anyone else? How would you treat a man who says I am the Christ, follow me. How would treat a man who said I am the way and if you will follow me I will show you great and might things. Follow me and I will show you how to be one with my Father. He in you and you in Him as one. Follow me and I will lead you to my Fathers kingdom. Does any of that sound familiar?

My God came to me, I followed Him and He made me one with Him. My God I can communicate with because He is here now and sups with me.

What good is a God that isn’t here, is yet to come, will not answer your prayes, and is for some folk for another time past or for a future but never for now for you?

For 2000 years you have been looking for this God and all the while He has been knocking at mans door screaming … Here I am, let me into your world and I will change your world into a new heaven and earth where righteousness abides , where there is no sin and you sit on my throne with Him. My kingdom is not of this world my kingdom is within you. My kingdom does not come with observation as you are seeking for a heaven out there for the sweet by and by. My kingdom is within you.

That is the difference in the God you are waiting for and the one I serve and know and did come. As long as you make Him wait, you will never ever see Him. And I will tell you a truth, if you can’t see Him now, what makes you think you will when you are dead? There is a great gulf fixed between heaven and hell and once you have crossed over into death, there is no coming back. You do not believe Him now that He will come to you and be in you and you have missed Him already.

That is the difference in a living God and a God who is still in a grave and is yet to come. [/quot
This is beautiful!!
 
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JESUS WAS BORN THE CHRIST and if you teach any thing else then you lie for God's Words tells us that JESUS WAS BORN THE CHRIST. the ONE and ONLY CHRIST. THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. Jesus is the Promised Christ Child.

Twist words and pretend to be a sheep all you want, but you only speak of Jesus in order to make yourself equal to Him GaryMac and you lie for you deny the divinity of JEsus by claiming it for yourself.

Jesus was BORN of the HOLY SPIRIT of the VIRGIN Mary. He did not "birth the CHrist" when he was baptized by John. HE was BORN the Christ out of the VIRGIN Mary.

what I don't understand is why others who claim to be Christian do not see past your lies. perhaps I should pray about that...

As for those who claim to be Christian, if you wish to encourage his lies then may it be upon your heads.

Luke 2

8 Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night. 9 And behold,[b] an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid. 10 Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. 11 For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. 12 And this will be the sign to you: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling cloths, lying in a manger.”
13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying:
14 “ Glory to God in the highest,
And on earth peace, goodwill toward men!”[c]

15 So it was, when the angels had gone away from them into heaven, that the shepherds said to one another, “Let us now go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has come to pass, which the Lord has made known to us.” 16 And they came with haste and found Mary and Joseph, and the Babe lying in a manger. 17 Now when they had seen Him, they made widely[d] known the saying which was told them concerning this Child.

I have been born again and have the HOLY SPIRIT who guides and leads me and washes me clean so don't start that rant of lies. the only difference is the Spirit within me agrees with the words God has revealed in the BIBLE while yours lies to you so you might think yourself equal to God in power and glory when God tells us not to seek that but that we might be perfect in LOVE for Him and others. but you and others can follow the example of your Father for he was a liar from the beginning, he too sought to be God Most High.

 
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Is God able to fulfill His promises? Your answer depends on whether you have received His Holy Spirit in yourself as one with Him. Your spiritual capacity is measured by the promises of God. Did He come to you as He promised He would, or is there some other agenda you have conjured for Him and something you are waiting for to come that is not come?

Mark 16:12. After that He appeared in another from unto two of them. It is this other form you do not see or understand. It is this other form that is hidden from you because your eyes are so focused on what you do understand that you can’t see Him right in front of you.

If you have been planted together in the likeness of His death, you shall be also in His likeness of His resurrection. Rom 6:5. You dying to your present state of knowledge and raised with the mind of Christ in His likness.

To have the mind of Christ is to think as He thinks. Look at yourself as He looks at Himself. I and my Father are one, He in me and I Him. In me there is no sin at all. Having the mentality of Christ comes only when you receive Gods Holy Spirit just as Jesus received Gods Holy Spirit. Only then did Jesus take on the image of God.

This one who appears in another form, other than the one you are looking for, is the one standing right in front of you screaming to you of His coming and making His abode in you, and is the very one you do not see or believe. And until you do see Him you will not believe Him at all that He is come.

 
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No, Gary, you avoided my question. Who does the BIBLE SAY was present when Mary conceived Jesus in her womb? There was only one being other than Mary present for certain. Who was it?

Well the only other one there was a messenger from God, but it wasnt a person at all. And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Holy Ghost Matt 1:20

But then it is this same Holy Ghost that comes and impregnates all who will recieve His seed and give birth to it, the Christ iin you. Same Holy Ghost came to Jesus in Matt 3:16 and did the same.

It is this overshadowing that is the hard part for most, they dont want to relinquish the right to themselves and give birth to the Christ within, now do you?
 
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JESUS WAS BORN THE CHRIST and if you teach any thing else then you lie for God's Words tells us that JESUS WAS BORN THE CHRIST. the ONE and ONLY CHRIST. THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. Jesus is the Promised Christ Child.

Twist words and pretend to be a sheep all you want, but you only speak of Jesus in order to make yourself equal to Him GaryMac and you lie for you deny the divinity of JEsus by claiming it for yourself.

Jesus was BORN of the HOLY SPIRIT of the VIRGIN Mary. He did not "birth the CHrist" when he was baptized by John. HE was BORN the Christ out of the VIRGIN Mary.

what I don't understand is why others who claim to be Christian do not see past your lies. perhaps I should pray about that...

As for those who claim to be Christian, if you wish to encourage his lies then may it be upon your heads.

Luke 2

8 Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night. 9 And behold,[b] an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid. 10 Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. 11 For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. 12 And this will be the sign to you: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling cloths, lying in a manger.”
13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying:
14 “ Glory to God in the highest,
And on earth peace, goodwill toward men!”[c]

15 So it was, when the angels had gone away from them into heaven, that the shepherds said to one another, “Let us now go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has come to pass, which the Lord has made known to us.” 16 And they came with haste and found Mary and Joseph, and the Babe lying in a manger. 17 Now when they had seen Him, they made widely[d] known the saying which was told them concerning this Child.

I have been born again and have the HOLY SPIRIT who guides and leads me and washes me clean so don't start that rant of lies. the only difference is the Spirit within me agrees with the words God has revealed in the BIBLE while yours lies to you so you might think yourself equal to God in power and glory when God tells us not to seek that but that we might be perfect in LOVE for Him and others. but you and others can follow the example of your Father for he was a liar from the beginning, he too sought to be God Most High.
That which was concieved in Mary was of the Holy Ghost. That is the only way Christ comes and makes His abode in anyone.

Have you concieved the same in you is the question?
 
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Having the mentality of Christ comes only when you receive Gods Holy Spirit just as Jesus received Gods Holy Spirit. Only then did Jesus take on the image of God.
and that is the hook of lies among the sugar coated truth.

JESUS WAS BORN THE CHRIST! he did not take on the image of GOD, he was and IS the image of GOD. He is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.

I am God's adopted daughter and I recognize whose seed you have.

you weave webs with your words and trap those who are unaware into your snares.

God warns His children of such.

Isaiah 59:4-6

New King James Version (NKJV)

4 No one calls for justice,
Nor does any plead for truth.
They trust in empty words and speak lies;
They conceive evil and bring forth iniquity.
5 They hatch vipers’ eggs and weave the spider’s web;
He who eats of their eggs dies,
And from that which is crushed a viper breaks out.
6 Their webs will not become garments,
Nor will they cover themselves with their works;
Their works are works of iniquity,
And the act of violence is in their hands.
 
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That which was concieved in Mary was of the Holy Ghost. That is the only way Christ comes and makes His abode in anyone.

Have you concieved the same in you is the question?
YOU degrade the miracle of Christ birth so you can claim His Power and glory for yourself, I will pray that you repent and turn from your sin and seek the TRUTH of who JESUS CHRIST really is instead of insisting the spirit within you is Christ, but NOT Jesus.

you can't separate the two. JESUS IS CHRIST.
 
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JESUS WAS BORN THE CHRIST and if you teach any thing else then you lie for God's Words tells us that JESUS WAS BORN THE CHRIST. the ONE and ONLY CHRIST. THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. Jesus is the Promised Christ Child.

Twist words and pretend to be a sheep all you want, but you only speak of Jesus in order to make yourself equal to Him GaryMac and you lie for you deny the divinity of JEsus by claiming it for yourself.

Jesus was BORN of the HOLY SPIRIT of the VIRGIN Mary. He did not "birth the CHrist" when he was baptized by John. HE was BORN the Christ out of the VIRGIN Mary.

what I don't understand is why others who claim to be Christian do not see past your lies. perhaps I should pray about that...

As for those who claim to be Christian, if you wish to encourage his lies then may it be upon your heads.

Luke 2

8 Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night. 9 And behold,[b] an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid. 10 Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. 11 For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. 12 And this will be the sign to you: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling cloths, lying in a manger.”
13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying:
14 “ Glory to God in the highest,
And on earth peace, goodwill toward men!”[c]

15 So it was, when the angels had gone away from them into heaven, that the shepherds said to one another, “Let us now go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has come to pass, which the Lord has made known to us.” 16 And they came with haste and found Mary and Joseph, and the Babe lying in a manger. 17 Now when they had seen Him, they made widely[d] known the saying which was told them concerning this Child.

I have been born again and have the HOLY SPIRIT who guides and leads me and washes me clean so don't start that rant of lies. the only difference is the Spirit within me agrees with the words God has revealed in the BIBLE while yours lies to you so you might think yourself equal to God in power and glory when God tells us not to seek that but that we might be perfect in LOVE for Him and others. but you and others can follow the example of your Father for he was a liar from the beginning, he too sought to be God Most High.

Only begotten ... I wonder how Adam got here?
 

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Genesis 2:7
Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.
 
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The dust of the ground to be exact.
Humm So you are saying that dust created Adam? Where did God play a part to beget Adam in His own image? Or are you saying God didnt have a part in Adams creation and Adam wasnt Gods ideah?

Wow, I have been decieved for all these years, I would have sworn God created the man and breathed His Spirit into him. Kinda like what He did in Jesus in Matt 3:16 isnt it. I mean both of these were Gods Ideah and God came to both of them in SPirit. and Now that I think about it, He did the same in me.

Nope I was right, Adam was begotten of God.
 

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Only begotten ... I wonder how Adam got here?
You seem to forget the people in the OT did not have the Holy Spirit.

They were flesh + God's breath = living soul

After the Messiah ascended into heaven those who believe in Him receive the Holy Spirit for the first time.

Meaning Christ is the first.. for His Spirit is the Holy Spirit.

Gary, do you even BELIEVE in Jesus Christ?
 

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Humm So you are saying that dust created Adam? Where did God play a part to beget Adam in His own image? Or are you saying God didnt have a part in Adams creation and Adam wasnt Gods ideah?

Wow, I have been decieved for all these years, I would have sworn God created the man and breathed His Spirit into him. Kinda like what He did in Jesus in Matt 3:16 isnt it. I mean both of these were Gods Ideah and God came to both of them in SPirit. and Now that I think about it, He did the same in me.

Nope I was right, Adam was begotten of God.
No, GOD created ADAM from DUST did you not see Genesis?
 
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and that is the hook of lies among the sugar coated truth.

JESUS WAS BORN THE CHRIST! he did not take on the image of GOD, he was and IS the image of GOD. He is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.

I am God's adopted daughter and I recognize whose seed you have.

you weave webs with your words and trap those who are unaware into your snares.

God warns His children of such.

Isaiah 59:4-6

New King James Version (NKJV)

4 No one calls for justice,
Nor does any plead for truth.
They trust in empty words and speak lies;
They conceive evil and bring forth iniquity.
5 They hatch vipers’ eggs and weave the spider’s web;
He who eats of their eggs dies,
And from that which is crushed a viper breaks out.
6 Their webs will not become garments,
Nor will they cover themselves with their works;
Their works are works of iniquity,
And the act of violence is in their hands.
Jesus didnt recieve Gods SPirit and the knowledge of heaven until Matt 3:16 and he was about 30 years old. Why do you guys keep denying that? Can you not see what is written and what happend in the man? What has you blinded to that truth? I didnt write it, it is not my ideah.