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zone

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Concerning this particular post, I have not heard a lie in it.

You could judge me by my past all day, but that would not change the Truth the Lord has shown me today. If Paul was judged by his past, everyone would have reason to say he is not of God. But today we know his ministry was of God, also hearing that same Spirit that was in him.

I see what you mean. I will not ask you what he said in the past, I can go look that up for myself, even then, God will be the judge, not me.

Maybe I don't understand the situation here, but I have not heard a lie in this particular thread that he has said.

May Jesus bless you.
ya...judge you by your past....ya ya.
compare yourself to paul and Jesus.

AND PULL YOUR FAVORITE STUNT telling battle-worn and true Christians they'd recrucify Christ (just like poor Ramon).

YOU'RE ALL THE SAME. novice babes, SELF-DELUDED and ARROGANT.
and i can assure you as the sun will rise tomorrow, YOU ARE HEADED FOR A FALL AND A CHASTENING IF INDEED YOU BELONG TO CHRIST.

you've WILLING placed yourself OUTSIDE THE CHURCH...therefore you are not of us yet.
keep your false prophecies to yourself for a change until you get humble and find out what it means to BE AMONG HIS PEOPLE LIKE IT OR NOT
 
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This is the same Testimony Paul gave:

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Rom 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

AND I SAY AMEN TO THAT!!!
 

zone

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No. I didn't say you judged me. But it was a scenario. That if anyone could be judged by the past, I could, but that would have nothing to do with today.

So if we judged a person by something yesterday, we should be cautious, because perhaps the Lord has ministered to them in that time.
YOU'VE BEEN JUDGING AND PREACHING CONDEMNATION SINCE YOU GOT HERE.

using Scripture of course....all the youngblood i'm specialers do it. you've you done a lot of it.
but when pressed you pull the usual stunt: well its not me speaking its The Lord, so if you're convicted..


i reckon you've ticked off MANY a preacher by telling him how to do his job, eh? then you call it persecution.

BLAH BLAH BLAH.
 
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YOU'VE BEEN JUDGING AND PREACHING CONDEMNATION SINCE YOU GOT HERE.

using Scripture of course....all the youngblood i'm specialiers do it. you've you don a lot of it.

but when pressed you pull the usual stunt: well its not me speaking its The Lord, so if you're convicted..

BLAH BLAH BLAH.
The Lord has been blessing me zone, to bless you. And I love you also. He has given me his wisdom, which is in love. A love so pure that the conscience cannot be defiled.

The condemnation is to those who live in darkness, and would not go to Jesus Christ, THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD!



May Jesus bless you.
 

zone

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In quoting His words, do you also keep them?

I will be fed by the Bread of Life. Jesus Christ.

May Jesus bless you.
good for you.


start feeding and go BE QUIET until you leanr to teach and not condemn the church by THE EASISET ROUTE POSSIBLE - SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN/HELL HELL HELL HELL....WHICH OF COURSE RAMON NEVER DOES.

study for a long long time Ramon before you teach.
better yet. why don't you ASK seasoned men to TEACH YOU?

oh ya. you don't need men, the church, nor the bible.
 

zone

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The Lord has been blessing me zone, to bless you. And I love you also. He has given me his wisdom, which is in love. A love so pure that the conscience cannot be defiled.

The condemnation is to those who live in darkness, and would not go to Jesus Christ, THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD!

May Jesus bless you.
oh you're SO SPIRITUAL!
oh Ramon!
what did i ever do without you?

GO INTO VIOLENT ANTICHRIST COUNTRIES AND TRY YOUR BRAND OF PREACHING.
YOU'LL BE DEAD IN ONE DAY.

YOU DO NOT WIN LOST MEN TO CHRIST WITH THE LAW ALONE.
YOU NEED THE PURE GOSPEL ALSO, MOST IMPORTANTLY.

you do not teach the church as a one year novice by rebuking sin you dont know of.

GO FIND OUT HOW EXCEEDINGLY SINFUL YOU ARE FIRST.
then come talk to me about sin.
 
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good for you.


start feeding and go BE QUIET until you leanrn to teach and not condemn the church by THE EASIsET ROUTE POSSIBLE - SIN SIN SIN SIN SIN....WHICH OF COURSE RAMON NEVER DOES.

study for a long long time Ramon before you teach.
better yet. why don't you ASK seasoned me to TEACH YOU?

oh ya. you don't need men, the church, nor the bible.
You are right, I need neither men, nor churches of men, nor the bible to teach me. Only the Holy Spirit of God, who teaches all men of himself.

And I have heard the witness of the Spirit of God in Holy men, and Holy women. And I have received their teaching, because I am a witness it is of God. I can hear the witness of God in them, so I can receive it from them, as I can receive it from Paul, as I can receive it from Jesus Christ, as I can receive it from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and from Moses, and from all the Apostles of God, and from all the Prophets of God.

But I will not take it from a stranger. A stranger who makes himself, and herself a stranger by continuing in sin, and telling me that I will always be in bondage to sin. This is the lie. If Jesus has made me free, I am free indeed. Which is the lie?

I have not received from you.

But I pray one day I can.

May Jesus bless you.
 

zone

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You are right, I need neither men, nor churches of men, nor the bible to teach me..
we're done.
LONE RANGER GO RIDING.
GOOD LUCK
you're a fanatic.
 
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And look past your grudges about who Christ is and become like Him. That is the will of God for us all that we become His little ones. Children. this is truth, now wait for the lies

Growing up is a difficult thing isn’t it, it means we have to become … Parents … from the seed and duplication of our parent the Father. Begotten of Him and begotten simply means an extension of, or duplication from an original. so are we "duplications" of God then? ties in with garymac's "God is Spirit" and "God always lives in men" and "incarnation is just Christ/God in you" but incarnation is MORE then that. GOD is MORE than that.

Do a word search on begotten, you will see that all are begotten who are in Christ.
now you see he makes JESUS nothing, denies Him. He brings a DIFFERENT CHRIST and lies for all are NOT begotten. ONLY JESUS CHRIST was begotten of the Father, all others are ADOPTED.

this was posted today Ramon.

you find nothing wrong with GaryMac claiming to be begotten of Christ?

Not Adopted children but Begotten children?

Is Jesus just another man?

Is GaryMac a begotten son just like Jesus?

Do you agree with the BIBLE which says that Jesus is the ONLY Begotten Son and we are God's Adopted children, with His Holy Spirit inside of us?

Or do you agree with this man GaryMac who claims to be JUST LIKE JESUS and that GOD is not a man?

do you agree that everyone can be incarnated of God by having the Holy Spirit inside of them?

Or do you know the difference between INCARNATION versus BORN AGAIN?

Do you actually use your God GIVEN discernment and divide truth from lies?

Or do you bury your head in the sand and allow your flesh to make your judgments for you?

Do you know how to put aside your emotions and allow God's truth to reign?

Or will you react out of anger, bitterness or pride?

hey if you want me to stop talking to you as Red has requested then I can do that too.
 

zone

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Personally, I have no interest in what you have to say. Take that any way you want and direct your attention and comments toward others. I think that should be final and remedial.
what casting her off?
doesn't that go against everything you preach?

FINAL AND REMEDIAL....well well.

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I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ANA.
 

zone

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THEY DON'T CARE ANA.
they're the NEW BREED.

perfect.
 
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THEY DON'T CARE ANA.
they're the NEW BREED.

perfect.
That would explain why I can't seem to understand their language then :/
 
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what casting her off?
doesn't that go against everything you preach?

FINAL AND REMEDIAL....well well.

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I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ANA.
lol what is there to say Zone?

We're having hamburgers would you like one?



its ok, he's just tiffed cause I told him I did not accept his authority as an elder MAN of the church and was not under his guidance, instruction or direction.

I find it funny though that he addressed me first in this thread. I was doing a pretty good job just ignoring him.

I doubt it will be Red's final words to me and perhaps he will find it remedial to himself.

I thought Abiding did a pretty good job not ruffling Ramon's feathers.

you know your words has his huckles up, right?

understandable concerning the curse he placed on you a couple weeks ago, did he ever apologize by the way?

mmm I guess its in God's hands.

can you pass the ketchup?
 
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AnandaHya

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That would explain why I can't seem to understand their language then :/
lol remember the movie analogy? sometimes you really don't want to know.
 
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Ramon

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now you see he makes JESUS nothing, denies Him. He brings a DIFFERENT CHRIST and lies for all are NOT begotten. ONLY JESUS CHRIST was begotten of the Father, all others are ADOPTED.

this was posted today Ramon.

you find nothing wrong with GaryMac claiming to be begotten of Christ?

Not Adopted children but Begotten children?

Is Jesus just another man?

Is GaryMac a begotten son just like Jesus?

Do you agree with the BIBLE which says that Jesus is the ONLY Begotten Son and we are God's Adopted children, with His Holy Spirit inside of us?

Or do you agree with this man GaryMac who claims to be JUST LIKE JESUS and that GOD is not a man?

do you agree that everyone can be incarnated of God by having the Holy Spirit inside of them?

Or do you know the difference between INCARNATION versus BORN AGAIN?

Do you actually use your God GIVEN discernment and divide truth from lies?

Or do you bury your head in the sand and allow your flesh to make your judgments for you?

Do you know how to put aside your emotions and allow God's truth to reign?

Or will you react out of anger, bitterness or pride?

hey if you want me to stop talking to you as Red has requested then I can do that too.
Ananda. I have treated you like a friend, but you have not treated me as such. When I could have said something, seeing how you also were on the wrong path, I said nothing, to not offend you. I will not cut you off either. Neither am I angry, but you seem to be, and I am trying to figure out why this makes you angry so much, consider it.

What Gary has said here is true. If I don't understand something, I would not say it is a lie, because I don't understand. I would pray and ask Jesus to tell me if it is true or not. And he will either say it isn't or it is. I have no emotions attached to it. SO here is the plain truth as the Lord reveals:

Jesus Christ was not his flesh. He was God in the flesh. So his nature was not the nature of men, but of God. Neither was his birth of men, but of God. And he also said, that anyone that wants to enter the kingdom of God must be reborn, not of flesh, but of Water and of Spirit. He must be reborn. And the baptism of Jesus was not of men, but of God, as was the Baptism of John.

Anyone that is born of God takes on the same nature of Christ, even the same Spirit of Christ, who bears witness of God. This is how we become witnesses together WITH Christ. And this is true communion.

I cannot teach you these things, Jesus has to reveal them to you. If they are hidden to you, then I cannot reveal them to you. This is why I have said over and over that men ought to learn from Jesus himself and not from men. It was to steer people in the right direction, as these things are hidden from the world.

For this same reason they killed Christ, and could not hear his testimony. Neither did they know him.

Jesus also gave witness of John the Baptist, in that he came in a manner in which the world could not know him, that he was even Elijah, and they killed him. And Jesus said, in like manner he would suffer of them.

And in like manner, the servants of Christ suffer of those to whom these things are hidden. And all these things are hidden in Christ. So if you are not in Christ, and Christ is not in you, these things are hidden to you, as they were to the Jews of his day. I wonder how the Gentiles could deliberately put over their heads the same veil the Jews had over theirs, so that the Truth is hidden from them.

Every eye will see him coming in his kingdom.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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That would explain why I can't seem to understand their language then :/
The language that Peter spoke on the Day of Pentecost caused the people to say that these men are drunken, and full of new wine.

She calls them the new breed, but it is the same accusation. They cannot hear the things of the Spirit. It is babel to them.
 

zone

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lol what is there to say Zone?

We're having hamburgers would you like one?



its ok, he's just tiffed cause I told him I did not accept his authority as an elder MAN of the church and was not under his guidance, instruction or direction.

I find it funny though that he addressed me first in this thread. I was doing a pretty good job just ignoring him.

I doubt it will be Red's final words to me and perhaps he will find it remedial to himself.

I thought Abiding did a pretty good job not ruffling Ramon's feathers.

you know your words has his huckles up, right?

understandable concerning the curse he placed on you a couple weeks ago, did he ever apologize by the way?

mmm I guess its in God's hands.

can you pass the ketchup?
mmmmmm. yummy.

Abiding does as he will. he's a gentle giant.

i don't care about Ramon's "feathers". he needs another 2 years to find out how foolish he's been.

i don't care about Red's feathers either. neither one would i sit under or recommend (though both for different reasons)

Red can't discuss his dispensational theology and scofield's heresy, so why should i listen?

napkin please? thank you.

cake at Nod's place later maybe
(or...maybe that' ll make her a target as part of the secret cabal at CC! LOLOLOL)
 
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lol remember the movie analogy? sometimes you really don't want to know.
LOL, I really should heed that advice.

On this thread in particular, I object to whatever it is Gary and a couple others are saying on the basis that it doesn't make much sense the way they write it, and that it sits wrong with what I know to be Truth...

But I'd like to UNDERSTAND what the heck they're saying so I KNOW what I'm objecting TO...

Hahahaha excuse me while I take a break in my padded cell.:cool:
 
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The Lord has been blessing me zone, to bless you. And I love you also. He has given me his wisdom, which is in love. A love so pure that the conscience cannot be defiled.

The condemnation is to those who live in darkness, and would not go to Jesus Christ, THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD!



May Jesus bless you.

Ramon i think you might be dizzy..."THE LIE" Is really closer to what you and Gary are so excited about.
NOT taking the provision for redemption God has given us and streamling it to just an accension to Godness.
Check out the fall...its just the same old lie as its always been. Especially this spiritual subjective gnosticism
you spout....when you were told to live by every word that proceeds out of Gods mouth. And in doing so
there are provisions you will deprave yourself from in rejecting His means and directions. All in the word...
and you openly reject, much of the way we have been exhorted and commanded to follow.

Would seem to me in your elite thinking and postured wisdom its more of a lack and trust in God than
your supposed nobleness, to rely on special revelation which is subjective and very prone to deception.
 

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MssCriss what is your honest opinion about all of this?