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Please take care to remain on topic. Also, hijacking a thread is not to be practiced in the forums. YOu ahve something to say unakin to the op, start a thread, please.
Incidentally, calling the originator egotisticala bcause he is managing his thread is also against the rules, and only someone who ha an overinflated opinion of himself coudpossibly think in these terms..........a littl charity is very potent you know.
Incidentally, calling the originator egotisticala bcause he is managing his thread is also against the rules, and only someone who ha an overinflated opinion of himself coudpossibly think in these terms..........a littl charity is very potent you know.
Hi JJ,
maybe I should have clarified.
You posted
2 John 1:5-6
5 And now I plead with you, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment to you, but that which we have had from the beginning: that we love one another. 6 This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.
So I see the focus on "love one another"
The point I was trying to make is that it does not stop at loving one another.
Jesus also gave us the command to love our enemies as well.
That's why I said "let's not stop at that, that being love one another"
Maybe my response was not relevant to what you were hoping to discuss.
That being the case then let it be retracted.
Bill
maybe I should have clarified.
You posted
2 John 1:5-6
5 And now I plead with you, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment to you, but that which we have had from the beginning: that we love one another. 6 This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.
So I see the focus on "love one another"
The point I was trying to make is that it does not stop at loving one another.
Jesus also gave us the command to love our enemies as well.
That's why I said "let's not stop at that, that being love one another"
Maybe my response was not relevant to what you were hoping to discuss.
That being the case then let it be retracted.
Bill
Not at all Bill. Any time you or anyone talk about Love and are referring to the love given us by our Father you are also referring to the topic, commandments or law. All the law is in love.
If we read a law and it is not part of love, it no longer is for it cannot be practiced in the sight of our Fashter.
That is not double talk, it is simply true. Of course we should love our enemies, but keep in mind if an enmy is such becaue of evil practices, we love them but do not pray for their sin, we pray for their souls.
A always say, and I always hope I mean it, that I want all to be in heaven. I pray I truly do.
When we love others and some or not living as we would see them do, we do not need to placate them, but we should love all....tough love does come in to play. The true tough love is God. We must do all we are give to be able to be as He......that is more than enough for any of uss. God bless you always.......
If we read a law and it is not part of love, it no longer is for it cannot be practiced in the sight of our Fashter.
That is not double talk, it is simply true. Of course we should love our enemies, but keep in mind if an enmy is such becaue of evil practices, we love them but do not pray for their sin, we pray for their souls.
A always say, and I always hope I mean it, that I want all to be in heaven. I pray I truly do.
When we love others and some or not living as we would see them do, we do not need to placate them, but we should love all....tough love does come in to play. The true tough love is God. We must do all we are give to be able to be as He......that is more than enough for any of uss. God bless you always.......
Jesus taught that we are saved by believing in Him. We obey because we believe in Him. He teaches us what to obey after we believe on Him and receive the new birth through the Holy Spirit.
Joh 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Joh 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Jesus called them liars and Hypocrites, serpents and children of satan. He said all the blood of the Prophets will be required of them. He said He will gather all that offend and them that "do iniquity" translated as "transgress the Commandments of God" and cast them into a Lake of fire. He held knowledge and the truth from them. He gave them delusions and spoke to them in a manner that would not allow them to hear or see what He was saying so as to he forgiven.
PS has a good question, and a valid one. How do we deal with someone who lies to us and our children about God, or molests our children as "many" preachers have been caught doing.
Even further, who is our enemy? Who is it Jesus and the Prophets and His Apostles had the greatest trouble with? Who was their enemy on earth? Gentiles, heathens? Or those who came in God's Name?
This is a very good question and a good thread for someone to start. Not an easy topic though given the difference between religious doctrines and actual teaching of the Word.
Good question PS.
PS has a good question, and a valid one. How do we deal with someone who lies to us and our children about God, or molests our children as "many" preachers have been caught doing.
Even further, who is our enemy? Who is it Jesus and the Prophets and His Apostles had the greatest trouble with? Who was their enemy on earth? Gentiles, heathens? Or those who came in God's Name?
This is a very good question and a good thread for someone to start. Not an easy topic though given the difference between religious doctrines and actual teaching of the Word.
Good question PS.
2Jn 1:5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
2Jn 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the
beginning, ye should walk in it.
One having. one heard from the beginning as one work
Amen JaumeJ and would offer in regard to the two verses you offered above used twice ,” but that which we had from the beginning” represents what scripture call first love
I suggest that beginning is our first love God speaking to us, not something that comes from the imaginations of our own heart (no faith)
But the same prompt that comes when he hear the voice of God which turn us so we can repent and comfort ourselves of His assurance that he would never leave us as orphans. It was that which was lost when men started to put their faith in respect to that seen like Nicole of the Nicolatians. Return to your first love as the Spirit of Christ works in us, Emanuel, God with us to both will and do His good pleasure
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works;(believe God as it is written) or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. Revelation 2:2-7
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