Company to install microchips in employees

[pete9]

"I don't believe "the mark of the beast" is something that will be "snuck up on you".... like someone sticking a "kick me" sign on your back...."

The Bible says that one with intelligence must figure it out. And it is not snuck up on you if others figure it out and broadcast it to the best of their ability, and are yet ignored.

"..accepting the mark of the beast is a voluntary CHOICE you make... a choice to follow and worship the beast."

I would say that bearing the mark is a choice that people are making this very minute.

"UNLESS, you are told to swear allegiance to..."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag..."

"bow down and worship the beast"

Hand on heart... Worship = fear (do Americans not fear the government) and obedience..anger when one criticizes it..

"Nobody can MAKE you worship the beast..."

No, no one can MAKE you bear the number name that the beast assigns to you, under the guise of a contract signed by newborns..you have to choose to do that and continue to do it so that your civil rights are not held hostage. Matthew Henry of centuries ago wrote:

"The second beast has carried on its designs, by methods whereby men should be deceived to worship the former beast, in the new shape, or likeness made for it. By lying wonders, pretended miracles. And by severe censures. Also by allowing none to enjoy natural or civil rights, who will not worship that beast which is the image of the pagan beast.

It is made a qualification for buying and selling, as well as for places of profit and trust, that they oblige themselves to use all their interest, power, and endeavour, to forward the dominion of the beast, which is meant by receiving his mark.

To make an image to the beast, whose deadly wound was healed, would be to give form and power to his worship, or to require obedience to his commands. To worship the image of the beast, implies being subject to those things which stamp the character of the picture, and render it the image of the beast. The number of the beast is given, so as to show the infinite wisdom of God, and to exercise the wisdom of men. The number is the number of a man, computed after the usual manner among men, and it is 666. What or who is intended by this, remains a mystery. To almost every religious dispute this number has yet been applied, and it may reasonably be doubted whether the meaning has yet been discovered. But he who has wisdom and understanding, will see that all the enemies of God are numbered and marked out for destruction; that the term of their power will soon expire, and that all nations shall submit to our King of righteousness and peace."

"What or who is intended by this, remains a mystery."

 

[pete9]

All I can say is to make sure you are CERTAIN it is not. For you wouldn't find it acceptable to risk a 1% chance that you lose all of your money, for instance. And yet even though the use of the SSN is weird and creepy to many, precious few are willing to give it up, just in case.

 

[dcontroversal]

Yes... I believe if it comes to that, we all will have to choose... either worship/follow the beast, or be killed.

I cannot think of a better way to die.... acknowledging Jesus as Lord and God.

although, I wouldn't mind taking as many of them as possible with me....

Brother I hear ya.....and take we will.....Lord Willing!

 

[pete9]

the mark has not arrived. it will be brought into existence when the anti christ himself will come into power. only then will his mark be known. who do you know that can bring fire from heaven. who do you know that have no regard for the rich and their money right now. tell me. who do you know that is against God ,sitting in the Holy place right now, tell me.

The country that invented the SSN and created the United Nations and holds its headquarters..which organization now demands that everyone on the planet be installed into a database which has their HUMAN NUMBER, home address, retina scan, fingerprints, and biometric photo... that country firebombed Germany and nuked Japan. And some people say that the nuking was rather special.

 

[tourist]

The country that invented the SSN and created the United Nations and holds its headquarters..which organization now demands that everyone on the planet be installed into a database which has their HUMAN NUMBER, home address, retina scan, fingerprints, and biometric photo... that country firebombed Germany and nuked Japan. And some people say that the nuking was rather special.

The United Nations is in no position and has no authority to demand anything, especially from the United States.

 

[Gabriel2020]

The mark is an unseen mark, nothing materialistic , It will be the will of man, their minds, their thoughts, the works of their hands to be a part of the system or not. For it, you will live, against it, you will die. So people will be looking for something they will never see.

 

[Zi]

Not saying it won't piggy back off the system that's in place now but the mark is not the NOW system.. otherwise we'd all be damned already.. we are already partakers.. willfully..

"I don't believe "the mark of the beast" is something that will be "snuck up on you".... like someone sticking a "kick me" sign on your back...."

The Bible says that one with intelligence must figure it out. And it is not snuck up on you if others figure it out and broadcast it to the best of their ability, and are yet ignored.

"..accepting the mark of the beast is a voluntary CHOICE you make... a choice to follow and worship the beast."

I would say that bearing the mark is a choice that people are making this very minute.

"UNLESS, you are told to swear allegiance to..."

"I pledge allegiance to the flag..."

"bow down and worship the beast"

Hand on heart... Worship = fear (do Americans not fear the government) and obedience..anger when one criticizes it..

"Nobody can MAKE you worship the beast..."

No, no one can MAKE you bear the number name that the beast assigns to you, under the guise of a contract signed by newborns..you have to choose to do that and continue to do it so that your civil rights are not held hostage. Matthew Henry of centuries ago wrote:

"The second beast has carried on its designs, by methods whereby men should be deceived to worship the former beast, in the new shape, or likeness made for it. By lying wonders, pretended miracles. And by severe censures. Also by allowing none to enjoy natural or civil rights, who will not worship that beast which is the image of the pagan beast.

It is made a qualification for buying and selling, as well as for places of profit and trust, that they oblige themselves to use all their interest, power, and endeavour, to forward the dominion of the beast, which is meant by receiving his mark.

To make an image to the beast, whose deadly wound was healed, would be to give form and power to his worship, or to require obedience to his commands. To worship the image of the beast, implies being subject to those things which stamp the character of the picture, and render it the image of the beast. The number of the beast is given, so as to show the infinite wisdom of God, and to exercise the wisdom of men. The number is the number of a man, computed after the usual manner among men, and it is 666. What or who is intended by this, remains a mystery. To almost every religious dispute this number has yet been applied, and it may reasonably be doubted whether the meaning has yet been discovered. But he who has wisdom and understanding, will see that all the enemies of God are numbered and marked out for destruction; that the term of their power will soon expire, and that all nations shall submit to our King of righteousness and peace."

"What or who is intended by this, remains a mystery."

 

[Locutus]

Let's get out theology from the bible - I'll even use the KJV for you onlyists:

Mat 24:14 (KJV) And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

The "end" is not the end of the world, it is the end of the age, i.e. the age of the old covenant.

Paul clearly stated that the gospel had been "preached in all the world" and to "every creature which is under heaven" when he wrote these words:

Rom 10:18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.

Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

 

[Depleted]

Some of yus can get the chip installed on the opposite shoulder to balance out the one already on the other...

Personally, I tend to eat chips before anyone has time to install them anywhere.

 

[Depleted]

Of course you would mock this information! You guys don't like it when end-time prophecy rears is head, do ya? It destroys your whole belief system. For if we can see people being implanted with a device under the skin of the hand, which allows them to buy and sell, then it is a testimony to the truth and accuracy of God's word. Since the mark is apart of the end-time events and takes place during the time of the beasts reign, it kills your whole idea that end-time events have already taken place. Instead it demonstrates that the church is about to be gathered, followed by the wrath of God.

I'd worry this was End-times prophecy being fulfilled only if it were. Not once does the Bible talk about implanting anything into people.

Just because you replaced God with "End-Times" does not mean the rest of us have.

 

[Depleted]

I have been watching and following the ever since the first ATM's came out, followed by the Universal product code (UPC) and then the Point of Sale system (POS). Then we began to see devices and apps that allowed people to credit and debit each other accounts. Ever since 2014, people in Sweden have been receiving implants that perform multiple purposes, one being making purchases. Now we have people being implanted here in the US, one of the functions being to electronically make purchases.

This system of electronic crediting and debiting had to be introduced in preparation for that coming beast and his mark. It wasn't going to just all of a sudden appear and that because the mark has to do with technology, which had to evolve. Now that employees are beginning to receive chip implants here in the US, it will spread like wild fire, other companies following suit.

It will continue to evolve with more and more people receiving it to replace swiping their cards and the use of cell phone bank apps, continuing to gain momentum in preparation for the revealing of that antichrist/beast. By the time he shows up, the system will already be in place and ready to go.

But before the anitchrist/beast makes it his mark and it becomes the only means of crediting and debiting ones bank account, the Lord will appear and gather the church. In the mean time we will continue to see its progress.

I wonder if the mark isn't watching and following technology (or anything outside of God) over focusing on God himself. Definitely an easy way to refocus, eh?

 

[Gabriel2020]

No man can out smart God. this is his purpose, his plan and no man know what he knows about this. they say ,the anti-christ comes in this way ,the mark comes in this way, but God says it comes in his way.

 

[Ahwatukee]

I believe that it does count now. I don't want to think that everyone who takes/keeps the mark plainly rejects God. The Bible doesn't say that they who take it will be thrown in the lake of fire. But it does say they will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and the lamb. The majority has not opted out or quit, but the majority can never be expected to do what's best..

Excuse me Pete9. Regarding what you said above, this is a case of you saying tomato and I saying tomatto. That torment with fire and brimstone is another description for the lake of fire. Make no mistake, torment in the lake of fire is what the verse is referring to. The rest of the context would support them as being tormented in the lake of fire and its not temporary:

"And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name

The mark of the beast will not be forced upon anyone. It will end up being the only way of making electronic crediting and debiting to ones bank account. Any by making all of the other methods of buying and selling obsolete, it will force people to either receive it in order to be able to electronically credit and debit their bank accounts, or they will reject it at the cost of persecution, captivity and death, because they know that the mark belongs to the beast and to take it would be to rebel against God. Those who don't take it will be clearly identified as enemies of the beast and his kingdom.

 

[PrynceNY]

Eventually it won't be optional but mandatory. It always tends to be introduced as a convenience and beneficial to sucker people in. Which is why the lord wants us to always have decernment so we dont fall for satans deception. Those who mock will be the first one to get the mark of the beast.

 

[Ahwatukee]

I wonder if the mark isn't watching and following technology (or anything outside of God) over focusing on God himself. Definitely an easy way to refocus, eh?

Hello Depleted,

Regarding your post, I would have to say that we must consider the scripture, which states that without the mark no one will be able to buy and sell. For me, the monitoring of these prophesies makes me excited because it demonstrates that we are definitely living in the very last days before that last seven years begins, which means that the gathering of the church is very near. I'm following the technology because by it we can see the stage being set for the events that will take place after the church has been gathered. So, the more it evolves, the closer we get to the Lord's appearing and our being gathered. The focus is then on God and his word, because he wrote these prophesies for this very reason so that we could recognize the signs of the times. We are all longing for our blessed hope, the appearing of our Lord and the emergence of these events tells us that he is very near.

Blessings in Christ!

 

[Miri]

We are already tracked everywhere we go, via smart phones, via card purchases etc.

I always turn off the location tracking on my phone, but there are always other ways to
track a person's life and their purchases.

At work we have to clock in and out. We have a card that we put in a machine to record
when we arrive and leave.

We also have had security devices put on the office doors for
protection. We have court rooms in my place of work with members of the public attending
for various hearings. So the security devices are a necessity, especially in light of the
terrorist attacks, as they stop member of the public getting access to staff offices.

However they also record which doors you go in and out of and when, through the
building.

An implant is just a different method to the same end result.

I think it will take more than an implant or smart tracking to influence end times.
It will also take a radicle new way of thinking and government influence. A global
authoritative dictatorship of some kind.

 

[Miri]

Incidentally technology is a blessing, it is enabling the gospel to be spread
worldwide. Even places where missionaries cannot reach, are hearing the gospel
via the internet.

 

[Locutus]

Good luck trying to get Muslims to accept a "chip"...

 

[Ahwatukee]

Eventually it won't be optional but mandatory. It always tends to be introduced as a convenience and beneficial to sucker people in. Which is why the lord wants us to always have decernment so we dont fall for satans deception. Those who mock will be the first one to get the mark of the beast.

I totally agree with you PrynceNY. The scripture says "He forces all, both great and small, etc." I believe the way in which he will force, is by making the other methods of buying and selling invalid, so that only his mark can be used to electronically credit and debit ones bank account. This will be that proverbial line being drawn in the sand. At that time there will no more gray area, no more fence sitters. If a person wants to continue having a job, buying their food, paying their mortgage, buying gas, etc. then they will have to receive the mark. Those who will not receive it will be those who fear God and know what the mark is. These will keep the testimony of Jesus and the word of God and will not worship the beast, his image nor receive his mark.

Regarding those who mock, we can only hope that God will open their eyes, allowing them to understand what is going on, so that they will join the ranks of the great tribulation saints.

 

[Desertsrose]

My point is we have already been living by this system. So there comes a point when it's rejection? I've lived all my life under this system and when asked to take a chip that is what separates us and puts us in the Damned category?

Right now we can freely barter and trade. We can still purchase with cash.

When we receive the mark of the beast, no one can buy, sell or trade unless they have the mark of the beast.

When a person receives the mark it will be of their own free will. Not something forced upon them at birth like our SSN#.

It could be that the SSN# will be used, but the mark will be on the forehead or the right hand. When we take that mark, it will be deliberate and a choice that all will make.