He is preparing a place in Heaven where the wedding will take place - once we all receive our glorified bodies at the time of the (pre-trib) Rapture. Note the phrase "when I come again". He is referring to a future event. He will come in clouds at the pre-trib Rapture. Seven years later, we will return with Him to Earth and witness the resurrection of the Tribulation Saints and enter into the Millennial Reign.
He gathers their souls from Heaven and their bodies from Earth at the time of the pre-trib Rapture. The Trib Saints have souls in Heaven, but their bodies do not go up in any post-trib rapture.
Brother you’ve lost me what I’m asking is what is the “pre trib rapture “in your mind ?
if it isn’t when Jesus gathers his elect people from earth after the tribulation like he said
what’s the so called “ pre trib rapture ?”
This is what Jesus said and where the idea of the great tribulation comes at all
“And Jesus answered and said unto them,
Take heed that no man deceive you. For
many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
And
ye shall hear ( because the church will be one earth ) of wars and rumours of wars: see
that ye be not troubled don’t be troubled though ) for
all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
For
nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
All
these are the beginning of sorrows.
Then
shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. ( he’s not telling them they’ll be raptured he’s preparing them to endure whatever comes )
And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And
because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
But
he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. ( not that they will not go through it all but that they need to stand from through it endure )
And
this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; ( the church has to still be on earth because that’s who preaches the gospel in the world ) and
then shall the end come.”
Matthew 24:4-10, 12-14 KJV
ado you see how Jesus is making very clear hey are going to endure a lot of tribulation and sorrows and persecutions in this world ? And he’s never saying “ I’m going to raptire you before all this happens instead the opposite he says this to his followers in the everlasting gospel
“But
take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. ( he has prepared them to endure by forewarning then it would come upon them but thy y are told to endure and keep faith in matter what )
But in those days,
after that tribulation, ( you keep saying there’s no scripture to support a post tribulation rapture but Jesus is plainly telling them they will endure all this and then after he will return to gather his people those who were in heaven and those left on earth )
the
sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars of heaven shall fall,( creation is being undone because it’s judgement day )
and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And
then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.”
Mark 13:22-27 KJV
At what point did he rapture them? There’s some of his people
on earth still because they hadn’t lived and died yet and some in heaven already because they died in the lord and entered heavens kingdom
“And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write,
Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that
they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.”
Revelation 14:13 KJV
They are blessed because they are entering the kingdom in the body of Christ
when they die
Paul’s talking about the one and only event when christ returns to gather his people t the end of the world. he’s talking about not worrying about people who died before us and so he is explaining that Gods going to bring them back with him and then
those still alive on earth be gathered up together in the air with Jesus and all those who died before us en Jesus returns from heaven at the restoration of creation
“For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again,
even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that
we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall
not prevent them which are asleep.
For
the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:
and
the dead in Christ shall rise first:
then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 KJV
I don’t think there’s a single scripture in the Bible that teaches anything else but what Christ established and be gays clearly he will return at the end of the world to gather his elect people from all nations whether they were still alive on earth or had passed away hundreds of years before and were waiting in the kingdom with him because they had already lived life chose the gospel and died in faith
There is no pre tribulation rapture brother Jesus only spoke of the great tribulation to prepare believers to endure and not give up through whatever trials they face on this life no matter what comes he was telling them hold on to faith in me and I’ll deliver you into eternal life
We have to live as Christian’s in this world
“And we know that we are of God, and
the whole world lieth in wickedness.”
1 John 5:19 KJV
and so we should all embrace the situation
“
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace.
In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.”
John 16:33
Worldly trials and tribulations are just part of existing in a wicked world and it’s perpetual until he ends it
the pre tribulation rapture would disprove everything the Bible says really and it seems like if it was a thing it would just say hat in scripture
wheres the verses that say plainly anything like “before the tribulation I just told you you would surely endure in this world , I’ll come and gather you so your not on earth to endure the tribulation ?
Surely there would be one single clear verse saying that since there’s many explaining post tribulation gathering of the church