Consult Paul Abide in Yeshua, Jesus

[Red33]

All of these questions you repeatedly pose have been answered time and time again. Since actually paying attention to what is replied is out of the scope of your attention and care for what you are asking, it seems ridiculous for anyone to reply.

I'm sorry but I have never made this post before quite like this and it is more specific. Under the new covenant we are to put away lying (Eph 4;25), so without sounding accusatory, why are you being so dishonest and deceitful with your response, you don't have to be that way. You make these replies of yours because you have never dealt with the content and don't want to deal with it and that is a downfall on your end. There are many things that you neglect and stay away from intentionally because of how they may effect your thinking and understanding if you really considered them. The Spirit is contrary to the mind of the flesh (Gal 5:16-18, Rom 7:25, 8:5, Eph 2:3) and the flesh knows that the strength of sin is the law and therefore is strengthened by the law...

1Cor 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Gal 5:16-18 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

If you respond negatively to this post, you will no doubt mock the inspiration and truth of these two passages of scripture, because they speak directly to the law in relationship to sin and to the Spirit.

 

[JaumeJ]

I'm sorry but I have never made this post before quite like this and it is more specific. Under the new covenant we are to put away lying (Eph 4;25), so without sounding accusatory, why are you being so dishonest and deceitful with your response, you don't have to be that way. You make these replies of yours because you have never dealt with the content and don't want to deal with it and that is a downfall on your end. There are many things that you neglect and stay away from intentionally because of how they may effect your thinking and understanding if you really considered them. The Spirit is contrary to the mind of the flesh (Gal 5:16-18, Rom 7:25, 8:5, Eph 2:3) and the flesh knows that the strength of sin is the law and therefore is strengthened by the law...

1Cor 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Gal 5:16-18This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

If you respond negatively to this post, you will no doubt mock the inspiration and truth of these two passages of scripture, because they speak directly to the law in relationship to sin and to the Spirit.

I am afraid the name Red33 and specific do not go together. I will not be your ego sounding board. If it makes you feel good to prefabricate messages to people, find another. I know by the Word you are not here out of love. The only reason I have kept replying is because Yahweh does not want to lose one soul. You can imagine how sad it makes Him that some are lost. Now, find another carcass to pick on.

 

[Mediate]

When read properly, the words of Jesus and the words of Paul do not contradict.

Denominations should really be called 'contradictions'.

John 8
4 they said to Him, “Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses, in the law, commanded[c] us that such should be stoned.[d] But what do You say?”[e] 6 This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear.[f] 7 So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up[g] and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” 8 And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience,[h] went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers of yours?[j] Has no one condemned you?”
11 She said, “No one, Lord.”
And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and[k] sin no more.”
12 Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.

1st Corinthains 13: 4-7

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Jesus was patient with the woman. He was kind to her. He did not envy her. He did not boast, He was not proud. He did not dishonor anyone. He did not seek for Himself, He did not become angry, he kept no record of her wrongs. He did not delight in her evil, but rejoiced in the truth (that nobody was blameless, and that He COULD cast the stone, but did not. This is very important). He protected her, he trusted that what He said would fix the situation, He hopes for her that she will sin no more, and He persevered till everyone was gone.

All Jesus actions fit the word, and the word fits His actions. Hence, the word made flesh.

He was the perfect example of what a man should be like.

 

[RickShafer]

I don't understand the hatred red.
You obviously know grace.
Why must you pester your brother so?
I've never read anything Jaume said that even hints at
legalism.
If he wants to observe the sabbath, is not that his business?
Red, you seemed to have zeroed in on a specific target.
But the target is wrong. - JaumeJ isn't your enemy.
If anything - I am because I posted against the positive message preaching of Joel Osteen.....
But then you corrected me that I was being too harsh, and not giving him a fair chance;
to which I relinquished and agreed, saying 'I didn't want to be too hard on the man'.
Red, I've read your words as they described grace wonderfully, and given you a liking for it.

If you are going through something I will certainly pray for you.
As JaumeJ would too......I'm sure.
We are brothers in Christ man; - I read your beautiful words concerning grace.
JaumeJ is not a legalist and therefore not your enemy, as neither am I.

Peace my brother, Jesus has you in His hand.

 

[Mediate]

I'm sorry but I have never made this post before quite like this and it is more specific. Under the new covenant we are to put away lying (Eph 4;25), so without sounding accusatory, why are you being so dishonest and deceitful with your response, you don't have to be that way. You make these replies of yours because you have never dealt with the content and don't want to deal with it and that is a downfall on your end. There are many things that you neglect and stay away from intentionally because of how they may effect your thinking and understanding if you really considered them. The Spirit is contrary to the mind of the flesh (Gal 5:16-18, Rom 7:25, 8:5, Eph 2:3) and the flesh knows that the strength of sin is the law and therefore is strengthened by the law...

1Cor 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Gal 5:16-18 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

If you respond negatively to this post, you will no doubt mock the inspiration and truth of these two passages of scripture, because they speak directly to the law in relationship to sin and to the Spirit.

We are to put away lying within ourselves. Guys, is this argument anything like the Jesus as above ^^??

 

[JaumeJ]

This is all going in every direction now. Not only will I pray for Red, I have been for some time. This is my fault because it takes two for a dispute, so please forgive me for this. It is written that Yahweh does not want to lose one soul, or not one soul should perish. With that in mind, I try, but now it is time for me to stop and leave everything to the Lord, Yeshua. Please, He is my Rock; do not let this pettiness turn into a brouhaha! Peace always in Yeshua, amen.

 

[Red33]

I am afraid the name Red33 and specific do not go together. I will not be your ego sounding board. If it makes you feel good to prefabricate messages to people, find another. I know by the Word you are not here out of love. The only reason I have kept replying is because Yahweh does not want to lose one soul. You can imagine how sad it makes Him that some are lost. Now, find another carcass to pick on.

You have responded to many on this site in the same manner you have responded to me and it has nothing to do with your love for Yeshua. Hopefully, they have not allowed themselves to be offended and have responded to the grace of God. My head is hard as adamant against your forehead and God has made it so. There are certain specifics of the new covenant of grace that you want nothing to do with that Paul speaks to that involves Christ and the church. This is how you have purpose it to be in your heart and it is what you convey in your rhetoric. If you are truly interested and motivated by the love of God to not lose one soul, you will fall upon the grace of God and the new covenant and put on the Lord Jesus Christ without the law and consider all things pertaining to the law as dung, that you might really win Christ. For you to do that it will take humility and a change of mind through grace and truth.

 

[Mediate]

You have responded to many on this site in the same manner you have responded to me and it has nothing to do with your love for Yeshua. Hopefully, they have not allowed themselves to be offended and have responded to the grace of God. My head is hard as adamant against your forehead and God has made it so. There are certain specifics of the new covenant of grace that you want nothing to do with that Paul speaks to that involves Christ and the church. This is how you have purpose it to be in your heart and it is what you convey in your rhetoric. If you are truly interested and motivated by the love of God to not lose one soul, you will fall upon the grace of God and the new covenant and put on the Lord Jesus Christ without the law and consider all things pertaining to the law as dung, that you might really win Christ. For you to do that it will take humility and a change of mind through grace and truth.

Yes, the grace of God allows us to point fingers! I remember now!! Let us all point fingers shall we, because we're all blameless!!

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[Red33]

Yes, the grace of God allows us to point fingers! I remember now!! Let us all point fingers shall we, because we're all blameless!!

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You like my avatar I see! Did I also rub you the wrong way? Paul was blameless as touching the righteousness of the law but he counted it all loss and but dung that he might win Christ (Phil 3:6-8). Study that for yourself and see what you come up with in the Spirit of comparing spiritual with spiritual (1Cor 2:13).

 

[loveme1]

Yahvah My God in the name of Yahshua the Messiah bring us peace and understanding.

We seek your Truth and Righteousness let all things be done for your Glory forever.

 

[Mediate]

You like my avatar I see! Did I also rub you the wrong way? Paul was blameless as touching the righteousness of the law but he counted it all loss and but dung that he might win Christ (Phil 3:6-8). Study that for yourself and see what you come up with in the Spirit of comparing spiritual with spiritual (1Cor 2:13).

I didn't really understand that post.

But no, you didn't rub me the wrong way.

But if I point out the whole script:

3 In conclusion, my friends, be joyful in your union with the Lord. (It goes without saying, that a joyous heart is a loving heart)I don't mind repeating what I have written before, and you will be safer if I do so. 2 Watch out for those who do evil things, those dogs, those who insist on cutting the body. 3 It is we, not they, who have received the true circumcision, for we worship God by means of his Spirit and rejoice in our life in union with Christ Jesus. (We worship by means of will and attitude and love, not law) We do not put any trust in external ceremonies(There is no need for rituals. There is no 'ceremony' we can perform that saves us). 4 I could, of course, put my trust in such things. If any of you think you can trust in external ceremonies, I have even more reason to feel that way. 5 I was circumcised when I was a week old. I am an Israelite by birth, of the tribe of Benjamin, a pure-blooded Hebrew. As far as keeping the Jewish Law is concerned, I was a Pharisee, 6 and I was so zealous that I persecuted the church.(Being overly zealous and scripturally bogged down is not part of the message) As far as a person can be righteous by obeying the commands of the Law, I was without fault. 7 But all those things that I might count as profit I now reckon as loss for Christ's sake.(But I realise my error, it is not what Christ wanted for me, so for His sake, I count these things as losses, whereas I once felt self righteous) 8 Not only those things; I reckon everything as complete loss for the sake of what is so much more valuable, the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have thrown everything away; I consider it all as mere garbage, so that I may gain Christ 9 and be completely united with him.I have thrown away my legal view, and adapted Christ's teachings. Everything that I was is gone, that kind of thing. I am new) I no longer have a righteousness of my own, the kind that is gained by obeying the Law. I now have the righteousness that is given through faith in Christ, the righteousness that comes from God and is based on faith.It is based on more than just obeying laws. It's based on Christ's way) 10 All I want is to know Christ and to experience the power of his resurrection, to share in his sufferings and become like him in his death,Altruistic?? 11 in the hope that I myself will be raised from death to life.

 

[Red33]

I don't understand the hatred red.
You obviously know grace.
Why must you pester your brother so?
I've never read anything Jaume said that even hints at
legalism.
If he wants to observe the sabbath, is not that his business?
Red, you seemed to have zeroed in on a specific target.
But the target is wrong. - JaumeJ isn't your enemy.
If anything - I am because I posted against the positive message preaching of Joel Osteen.....
But then you corrected me that I was being too harsh, and not giving him a fair chance;
to which I relinquished and agreed, saying 'I didn't want to be too hard on the man'.
Red, I've read your words as they described grace wonderfully, and given you a liking for it.

If you are going through something I will certainly pray for you.
As JaumeJ would too......I'm sure.
We are brothers in Christ man; - I read your beautiful words concerning grace.
JaumeJ is not a legalist and therefore not your enemy, as neither am I.

Peace my brother, Jesus has you in His hand.

I will never relinquish the grace of God and the righteousness that comes by faith for any part of the law, especially those that hold the Sabbath to be a sacred commandment but do not give the same esteem for preaching the gospel of grace in all the world to every creature. Grace reigns through righteousness unto eternal life and not through the law (Rom 5:17,21). They are partial to the keeping of the Sabbath against the will of God, who has established us under grace by our Lord Jesus Christ under the new covenant and testament of the blood of Christ. For the new testament believer keeping the Sabbath provides nothing, just like the circumcision of the flesh, and is required of no one to be kept. For anyone to think so is still abiding under the law and not under the grace of God through the finished work of Christ.

Keeping the Sabbath is a work of the law and is done as a work of righteousness. If not done as a work of righteousness then why bother doing it. God does not favour those that keep the Sabbath and He does not impute or put any righteousness on their account for observing it. Keeping the Sabbath is a vain attempt in the flesh to please God by keeping it as a commandment and those that do, substitute that commandment for those we have been given in under the new covenant. The harm that is does cause is a hindrance in furthering the gospel of Christ through the grace of God.

JaumeJ and many others can't even tell you the many commandments we have been given under the new covenant because he is so obsessed and occupied with the old. He does not like the term 'old' when referring to the first covenant because of his orientation to the law. He tries to add grace to his understanding because of Christ but abstains from the teachings of Paul that contradicts his own understanding of the law. Paul did not practice keeping the Sabbath and other practices of the law after his conversion and that bothers JaumeJ and he rejects much of what Paul has taught. He will deny that but it is evident. That is why he pits what Paul teaches against the teachings of our Lord.

 

[pickles]

When Yeshua spoke to the Pharisees on the subject of tradition, He said woe to you Pharisees who rue the tradition of man as commandment from Yahweh. Now elsewhere in the NT it is taught there are traditions which are harmless.

The observing of the Sabbath is not a tradition, harmless or otherwise, it is a commandment from Yahweh, the Father. It is harmless to obey it, a sin to teach against it, and a pleasure to observe.

Taking also from the teachings of Paul, if one man observes one day over another with a clear conscience toward God, he does not sin. Thus if I observe the Sabbath wrongly, this should not bother any brother in Yeshua. I believe all should observe the Sabbath as the Father COMMANDS, however Paul does teach the aforementioned attitude, thus I do not condemn anyone if they observe the Sabbath according to the dictates of man on Sunday, according to the command of our beloved Father on the Seventh Day, or not at all.

God bless all in Yeshua, Christ, amen. PS...Also, anyone condemning a brother or sister for observing or not observing the Sabbath is in the wrong according to Paul.

I think I understand what you are saying here.
I do not dissagree, but as said, Paul was simply pressing the importance of Jesus first in all things, not saying that the sabbath was not to be observed.
Paul was simply saying that we are to live first in Jesus, the rest is made in us by Jesus.
Paul in these scripture was speaking to those that put the traditions as first, that these traditions cannot save, but Jesus is who saves.
Like you quoted what Jesus said to the pharasees.
Paul was not saying these things are to be set aside, but simply pointing to Jesus as the way, and that in Jesus we will know what we are called to by God.
Hopefully this is what you mean as well, as Im getting lost in all the words.
I just do not see Paul taking away Jesus's teachings, simply pointing out that we need first to live in Jesus.

God bless
pickles

 

[JaumeJ]

I think I understand what you are saying here.
I do not dissagree, but as said, Paul was simply pressing the importance of Jesus first in all things, not saying that the sabbath was not to be observed.
Paul was simply saying that we are to live first in Jesus, the rest is made in us by Jesus.
Paul in these scripture was speaking to those that put the traditions as first, that these traditions cannot save, but Jesus is who saves.
Like you quoted what Jesus said to the pharasees.
Paul was not saying these things are to be set aside, but simply pointing to Jesus as the way, and that in Jesus we will know what we are called to by God.
Hopefully this is what you mean as well, as Im getting lost in all the words.
I just do not see Paul taking away Jesus's teachings, simply pointing out that we need first to live in Jesus.

God bless
pickles

We are in agreement in Yeshua on all you say here. I have stated the same in one manner or another in many of my posts. This is the theme of this thread, my own thread for that matter. It is abide in Yeshua and consult Paul. This gives all due credit to Paul while reminding everyone our savior is Jesus. If you scroll up, you will see I have quoted Paul teaching that his work is to teach the Gospel of Yeshua. Praise Yahweh for accord always, in Yeshua, amen.

 

[pickles]

We are in agreement in Yeshua on all you say here. I have stated the same in one manner or another in many of my posts. This is the theme of this thread, my own thread for that matter. It is abide in Yeshua and consult Paul. This gives all due credit to Paul while reminding everyone our savior is Jesus. If you scroll up, you will see I have quoted Paul teaching that his work is to teach the Gospel of Yeshua. Praise Yahweh for accord always, in Yeshua, amen.

Sounds good, I am not always able to read all postings, the words just look jumbled to me.
My concern was that Paul was being dismissed or considered speaking against Jesus's teachings.
Im sorry I misunderstood.
Seen too many reject Paul threads I guess.
But yes, in full agreement, that Jesus is and always first in all we learn and live!

now, back to the good fight!
God bless
pickles

 

[JaumeJ]

Sounds good, I am not always able to read all postings, the words just look jumbled to me.
My concern was that Paul was being dismissed or considered speaking against Jesus's teachings.
Im sorry I misunderstood.
Seen too many reject Paul threads I guess.
But yes, in full agreement, that Jesus is and always first in all we learn and live!

now, back to the good fight!
God bless
pickles

We are also in agreement on that point, many of the posts seem jumbled to me too, especially the very long ones, which I usually do not read in detail. My thinking is if I want to read the most on any subject I read the Word on it, even though I have been wordy a few times. Hmmm, is this do as I say not as I do? Anyway, I try, and I know you are laboring to enter into the rest also.....Yahweh bless you always.... PS. I am accused of not believing Paul when I say I always try to go to the Lord on any given subject, but going to the Lord is the right thing to do, not only because it is common sense in the Spirit, but Paul teaches this also in saying it is the Gospel of Jesus, not of Paul.....If this is not learning from Paul, I guess I will have to try harder.

 

[pickles]

We are also in agreement on that point, many of the posts seem jumbled to me too, especially the very long ones, which I usually do not read in detail. My thinking is if I want to read the most on any subject I read the Word on it, even though I have been wordy a few times. Hmmm, is this do as I say not as I do? Anyway, I try, and I know you are laboring to enter into the rest also.....Yahweh bless you always.... PS. I am accused of not believing Paul when I say I always try to go to the Lord on any given subject, but going to the Lord is the right thing to do, not only because it is common sense in the Spirit, but Paul teaches this also in saying it is the Gospel of Jesus, not of Paul.....If this is not learning from Paul, I guess I will have to try harder.

The good thing is, we have Jesus to bring all the help, streangth, hope and victory to succeed!
Jaume, the more I read here, the more debates, the more of more and more said as to what we are called to?
I see exactly why Jesus came to us, for us, and said I am the way, the truth and the light!
Thankyou Dear Jesus for being the rock we can build on!

God bless
pickles

 

[Red33]

We are also in agreement on that point, many of the posts seem jumbled to me too, especially the very long ones, which I usually do not read in detail. My thinking is if I want to read the most on any subject I read the Word on it, even though I have been wordy a few times. Hmmm, is this do as I say not as I do? Anyway, I try, and I know you are laboring to enter into the rest also.....Yahweh bless you always.... PS. I am accused of not believing Paul when I say I always try to go to the Lord on any given subject, but going to the Lord is the right thing to do, not only because it is common sense in the Spirit, but Paul teaches this also in saying it is the Gospel of Jesus, not of Paul.....If this is not learning from Paul, I guess I will have to try harder.

I am sure you believe that every word of the old testament is inspired of God, especially the (10) commandments, but, other than the words of Yeshua in the gospels, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE SCRIPTURES THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN THROUGH THE APOSTLE PAUL CAME BY INSPIRATION OF GOD THROUGH THE SPIRIT? If you choose to answer, a sufficient YES or NO would suffice, because if his writings were not inspired of God, then they have no place in the canon of scriptures. WERE THOSE SCRIPTURES BY THE APOSTLE PAUL WRITTEN UNDER INSPIRATION (God breathed)? I believe as do other believers, that his writings were God-breathed.

If you are a student of the word of both the old and new testaments, and have been studying the scriptures for some (4) decades, then you must be able to answer adequately and with assurance and strong conviction. Does (2Tim 3:16) apply to Paul's writings as it does to the others writings in our canon? Paul was a Jew, called of God, and does his writings come from the same God that Moses, David, Solomon, the prophets, Peter, James and John's came from and with the same authority from above, being moved by the Holy Spirit? OR are his writings from his own opinion and if any find difficulty with them, they can be ignored or put aside because they do not hold the same authority or weight as do the other scriptures and commandments we are to obey?

From what you have communicated in your posts, you only seem to recognize anything he taught as only something we could learn from, having the same weight as any teacher that would teach the word and doctrine today. I don't see you recognizing the apostolic authority given to him as a master builder OR giving his writings any God-breathed inspiration and you justify his teachings as related to the words of the gospels and not directly from God by revelation as the mysteries of God that had been hidden. You seem to reject his own claims of those mysteries that were revealed to him by our Lord Jesus Christ for the church that Yeshua claimed that He would build. If I am wrong and have misrepresented you, then correct me specifically, but if I am right then be honest with your answers.

1Cor 15:7-10
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

Rom 16:25-27
25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.

Gal 1:11-17, 2:2, Eph 3:1-11, 1Cor 2:5-13, 3:10,11, Eph 2:20

 

[JaumeJ]

I am sure you believe that every word of the old testament is inspired of God, especially the (10) commandments, but, other than the words of Yeshua in the gospels, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE SCRIPTURES THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN THROUGH THE APOSTLE PAUL CAME BY INSPIRATION OF GOD THROUGH THE SPIRIT? If you choose to answer, a sufficient YES or NO would suffice, because if his writings were not inspired of God, then they have no place in the canon of scriptures. WERE THOSE SCRIPTURES BY THE APOSTLE PAUL WRITTEN UNDER INSPIRATION (God breathed)? I believe as do other believers, that his writings were God-breathed.

If you are a student of the word of both the old and new testaments, and have been studying the scriptures for some (4) decades, then you must be able to answer adequately and with assurance and strong conviction. Does (2Tim 3:16) apply to Paul's writings as it does to the others writings in our canon? Paul was a Jew, called of God, and does his writings come from the same God that Moses, David, Solomon, the prophets, Peter, James and John's came from and with the same authority from above, being moved by the Holy Spirit? OR are his writings from his own opinion and if any find difficulty with them, they can be ignored or put aside because they do not hold the same authority or weight as do the other scriptures and commandments we are to obey?

From what you have communicated in your posts, you only seem to recognize anything he taught as only something we could learn from, having the same weight as any teacher that would teach the word and doctrine today. I don't see you recognizing the apostolic authority given to him as a master builder OR giving his writings any God-breathed inspiration and you justify his teachings as related to the words of the gospels and not directly from God by revelation as the mysteries of God that had been hidden. You seem to reject his own claims of those mysteries that were revealed to him by our Lord Jesus Christ for the church that Yeshua claimed that He would build. If I am wrong and have misrepresented you, then correct me specifically, but if I am right then be honest with your answers.

1Cor 15:7-10
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

Rom 16:25-27
25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.

Gal 1:11-17, 2:2, Eph 3:1-11, 1Cor 2:5-13, 3:10,11, Eph 2:20

If you wish to post on this thread, post, but do not address me directly since you have proven yourself hostile to me personally. It has been witnessed by others. I continue to pray for you, but no more of this contention. It does not reflect the love of Yeshua nor respect for the members of His Body.

 

[Red33]

If you wish to post on this thread, post, but do not address me directly since you have proven yourself hostile to me personally. It has been witnessed by others. I continue to pray for you, but no more of this contention. It does not reflect the love of Yeshua nor respect for the members of His Body.

This has nothing to do with contention but rather an opportunity for you to clarify your stand on the scriptures that come from Yeshua. You don't like to talk about inspiration but you like to use me as a sounding board to distance yourself from it. Let others witness this as well. BTW - You should also examine your own actions in terms of being hostile with your words and some of the things you have expressed to other posters, that I am sure has been witnessed by others, other than myself. It only becomes contentious when you personally have a fit with what is being said that contradicts your belief system. Your 68 yrs old and have been saved for awhile now, you should have some capacity to be adjusted to the things of God as you grow in being skilled in the words of righteousness and it all starts when we discern between the law and grace and how it is to be applied in the believer's life through the death, burial and resurrection of Christ.

The love of God is revealed through the cross and a laid down life in adversity and prosperity but not through sentimentality or personality rapport with others that agree with you. You and others are very wrong about the law and I am not budging on it because there is too much grace in me to let it slide and produce leaven. It is so much more than keeping the Sabbath because leaven gets into your thinking and in the decisions that we make upon the truth we are taught. If you discredit Paul's teaching and his instructions, who was called by God to be an apostle, by ignoring them and putting them aside as having little weight, then you are not considering the whole counsel of God that we have been given and how can you or any of us that do that have the mind of Christ or abide in His words? The scriptures can not be broken and we have to accept all of it or we become partial within ourselves.