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Nehemiah6

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wikipedia says thats conflicts with (Matthews) account of Jesus being born in Herods reign which was 9 years earlier, though wiki could be wrong as it doesnt give much evidence exactly how they conflict.
Wiki cannot be trusted to give you insight into biblical truth.
 

JaumeJ

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The two accounts are complementary, and we need both to get the full picture.
Sorry not to have repeated, I should have included the reference to who gave the order for the census being taken at the time of our Savior's birth *or just previous to it.)
 

posthuman

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no it was by the Roman governor Quirinus, as stated by Luke.
But no figures have been given, I dont understand this census, it seems to me they counted it for taxpaying purposes.

wikipedia says thats conflicts with (Matthews) account of Jesus being born in Herods reign which was 9 years earlier, though wiki could be wrong as it doesnt give much evidence exactly how they conflict. A governor and a King are not the same thing.
as i understand it:

Josephus's histories record the time of a census that appears to conflict with the timing of Luke's account on the surface, because the time of Quirinus's governorship is documented. but there were multiple censuses and at least five rulers named Herod -- and the word Luke uses to describe Quirinus's position at the time of the particular census doesn't actually mean 'governor' ((that would be 'legatus')) but could be any kind of authority ((Luke calls him 'hegemon'))
it's plausible that Quirinus was only in charge of the census at the time, not yet made governor of Syria, which would make Luke's account have no conflict with Josephus's history. Josephus would be talking about a census ~ 7AD, when Quirinius was governor, while Luke is speaking of a census that started ~ 7BC, when Quirinius was in a position of authority over the census but not the governor yet.