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I did a lot of searching for info on Erasmus and Lucifer, but came up with 0.
This is from www.blueletterbible.org
Isaiah 14:12 is called Lucifer. For example, the King James Version reads:
Other Versions Different
Other versions however do not use the name Lucifer to describe this personage in Isaiah 14:12. The American Standard Version of 1901 reads.
Why The Difference?
To understand the difference we must go back to the original language in Isaiah 14:12, Hebrew. The Hebrew word translated "day star" or "Lucifer" is Helel. This word has been rendered in a number of ways, because there was some question as to its exact meaning, and how it should be understood.
Helel has been understood to be the command form of the verb, "to howl." Therefore the translation of Isaiah 14:12 would read, "Howl, son of the morning."
To Shine
Others have connected this word with the verb, "to shine." From this idea came "day star," "bright one," or "bearer of light."
Context In Isaiah
In the context of Isaiah, Helel is possibly used as proper name for the king of Babylon. Therefore his name would be translated as "day star," or "bright one."
Hebrew To Latin
When this Hebrew term was translated into Latin, the word lucifero was used. Lucifero basically means "to shine." Therefore, if this term is understood to be a proper name of the king of Babylon, that name, in Latin, would be Lucifer.
King James Translators
The King James translators were very familiar with Latin. In fact, the notes they kept during their translation deliberations were made in Latin. When they began their translation process, the Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible had been around a thousand years. Lucifero, the Latin translation of the Hebrew Helel, had already become a proper name for the Devil. Instead of translating the term as "day star" or "bright one," they kept the popular Latin term "Lucifer." This is how the term ended up in some English translations.
Bright And Morning Star
Though the term "day star" has been attributed to the Devil, the genuine bright morning star is Jesus.
The reason Lucifer has been understood to be a proper name of the Devil has to do with the Latin translation of the Hebrew term Helel. This word was understood, by some, to be a proper name for the king of Babylon. It means "light bearer," or Lucifero in Latin. The Latin title became a popular name for this evil figure. When the King James translators rendered the Hebrew term into English, they kept the popular term "Lucifer" for the Devil.
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This is from www.blueletterbible.org
Isaiah 14:12 is called Lucifer. For example, the King James Version reads:
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which did weaken the nations!
The name Lucifer appears nowhere else in the King James Version.Other Versions Different
Other versions however do not use the name Lucifer to describe this personage in Isaiah 14:12. The American Standard Version of 1901 reads.
How art thou fallen from heaven, O day-star, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, that did lay low the nations!
Most other modern versions translate this passage in a similar way as the American Standard Version.Why The Difference?
To understand the difference we must go back to the original language in Isaiah 14:12, Hebrew. The Hebrew word translated "day star" or "Lucifer" is Helel. This word has been rendered in a number of ways, because there was some question as to its exact meaning, and how it should be understood.
Helel has been understood to be the command form of the verb, "to howl." Therefore the translation of Isaiah 14:12 would read, "Howl, son of the morning."
To Shine
Others have connected this word with the verb, "to shine." From this idea came "day star," "bright one," or "bearer of light."
Context In Isaiah
In the context of Isaiah, Helel is possibly used as proper name for the king of Babylon. Therefore his name would be translated as "day star," or "bright one."
Hebrew To Latin
When this Hebrew term was translated into Latin, the word lucifero was used. Lucifero basically means "to shine." Therefore, if this term is understood to be a proper name of the king of Babylon, that name, in Latin, would be Lucifer.
King James Translators
The King James translators were very familiar with Latin. In fact, the notes they kept during their translation deliberations were made in Latin. When they began their translation process, the Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible had been around a thousand years. Lucifero, the Latin translation of the Hebrew Helel, had already become a proper name for the Devil. Instead of translating the term as "day star" or "bright one," they kept the popular Latin term "Lucifer." This is how the term ended up in some English translations.
Bright And Morning Star
Though the term "day star" has been attributed to the Devil, the genuine bright morning star is Jesus.
It is I, Jesus, who sent My angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star (Revelation 22:16).
SummaryThe reason Lucifer has been understood to be a proper name of the Devil has to do with the Latin translation of the Hebrew term Helel. This word was understood, by some, to be a proper name for the king of Babylon. It means "light bearer," or Lucifero in Latin. The Latin title became a popular name for this evil figure. When the King James translators rendered the Hebrew term into English, they kept the popular term "Lucifer" for the Devil.
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This really sounds like it comes from a Gnostic or Kabbalah teaching
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I read it first from a Jewish Rabbi. Of the Nazarene sect.
From the ISV
Gen 3:1 Now the Shining One was more clever than any animal of the field that the LORD God had made. It asked the woman, "Did God actually say, 'You are not to eat from any tree of the garden'?"
And personal attacks are beneath ....not from above.
From the ISV
Gen 3:1 Now the Shining One was more clever than any animal of the field that the LORD God had made. It asked the woman, "Did God actually say, 'You are not to eat from any tree of the garden'?"
And personal attacks are beneath ....not from above.
This is what i truly believe and it is in alignment with the Bible which makes it clear human beings are not perfect.. Therefore Stongs cannot be considered an infallible book.. This is not an assumption at all.. I cannot believe someone would get offended by such a statement.. It is Truth..
In the end people can react which ever way they like but it the end the truth is the truth whether one love it or hates it..
I have been involved in Many online Christian forums for the last 18 to 20 years and i have seen many people using strongs to altar scriptures to conform it to what they believe.. That's why i use the terms Some and Many and i did not use the term You...
Now if i wanted it to be a personal assessment of you, i would have used the word You without hesitation..
Again why do people have trouble reading words that are not personal and taking it as read? It makes peoples efforts to be careful with what they write a waste of time when people are quick to take things personal and are hyper sensitive reacting with anger..
In the end people can react which ever way they like but it the end the truth is the truth whether one love it or hates it..
I have been involved in Many online Christian forums for the last 18 to 20 years and i have seen many people using strongs to altar scriptures to conform it to what they believe.. That's why i use the terms Some and Many and i did not use the term You...
Now if i wanted it to be a personal assessment of you, i would have used the word You without hesitation..
Again why do people have trouble reading words that are not personal and taking it as read? It makes peoples efforts to be careful with what they write a waste of time when people are quick to take things personal and are hyper sensitive reacting with anger..
