Creation of universe

[Oseas]

Yada yada yada. You don't know a thing about me, and yet you show up once a week to spew garbage at me. Just go away.

Why are you so tormented? Because there is no Truth in you. You said above: "I'm done with you", and now you come again because there is not Truth in you, for sure.

JESUS left very very clear, saying: But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of Evil. I believe in JESUS, I'm a believer in Christ JESUS. JESUS is true, I would never say the same of you.

 

[tourist]

Read to here. (yawn)

 

[Chris1975]

Based on the known speed of light some of the stars are over a billion years old. Perhaps the speed of light at the time of creation was astronomically faster than it is today and that the current speed of life verses the original speed of light is in indication that the speed of light is in the process of slowing down. You have raised in interesting point. Observing the stars in the universe is like using a time machine, what you are really seeing is the light from light years away and not how it was at the time the light left the star. Some of the stars in the universe that are visible today probably don't even exist anymore.

Time and Space (two separate things) are permanently linked by a mathematical formula. Einstein figured this out and the rest, as they say, is History. These became part of the Relativity Theory that we are now so familiar with today.

Space, although you think it is empty (vacuum) is in fact made up of various fields. One of these being the electro-magnetic field (which is how light travels through space), and another of the fields (for interest sakes) is the Higgs Field (which gives atoms their mass). There are other fields which you can investigate as well. So space is NOT empty per se.

Light cannot go faster than circa 299m Kms/s through this electro-magnetic field. And we know based on mathematics that some light has been travelling to us from galaxies that are further than 6000 light years away.

Science has started calling space and time the FABRIC of SPACE TIME. The fabric being the fields which hold everything together. If we were to look at the scriptures we see very interesting comments made about this:

Psalm 104
2 Who cover Yourself with light as with a garment,
Who stretch out the heavens like a curtain.

Looking very much like a fabric to me, how about you?

Job 9
He alone spreads out the heavens,
And [b]treads on the [c]waves of the sea;

So, we cannot know all of this for sure, but we could speculate that God was able to stretch out the heavens at creation allowing for such great distances to be achieved without us having to wait for the light to reach us. Like blowing up a balloon. Or stretching an elastic band.

One day we will know, because we can ask Him.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

Maybe those stars aren't that far away. I mean we are kind of just taking someone's word for it. How do they know it's that far away? We can't measure it. They have some theory based on the color of the light, well if you put copper in a fire it turns green, it doesn't go a million billion light years away. It kind of makes me think of that song Cosmic debris, by Frank Zappa.

 

[cv5]

Time and Space (two separate things) are permanently linked by a mathematical formula. Einstein figured this out and the rest, as they say, is History. These became part of the Relativity Theory that we are now so familiar with today.

Space, although you think it is empty (vacuum) is in fact made up of various fields. One of these being the electro-magnetic field (which is how light travels through space), and another of the fields (for interest sakes) is the Higgs Field (which gives atoms their mass). There are other fields which you can investigate as well. So space is NOT empty per se.

Light cannot go faster than circa 299m Kms/s through this electro-magnetic field. And we know based on mathematics that some light has been travelling to us from galaxies that are further than 6000 light years away.

Science has started calling space and time the FABRIC of SPACE TIME. The fabric being the fields which hold everything together. If we were to look at the scriptures we see very interesting comments made about this:

Psalm 104
2 Who cover Yourself with light as with a garment,
Who stretch out the heavens like a curtain.

Looking very much like a fabric to me, how about you?

Job 9
He alone spreads out the heavens,
And [b]treads on the [c]waves of the sea;

So, we cannot know all of this for sure, but we could speculate that God was able to stretch out the heavens at creation allowing for such great distances to be achieved without us having to wait for the light to reach us. Like blowing up a balloon. Or stretching an elastic band.

One day we will know, because we can ask Him.

Obsolete theories and thinking. Everything is geomagnetic precession. The ether is the medium. Gravity and manetism are one and the same. Find out what counterspace is. There are NO "particles" like photons or electrons. Einstein was a "fuzzy haired crackpot" per Tesla who actually knew pretty well how the universe functons.

 

[cv5]

Maybe those stars aren't that far away. I mean we are kind of just taking someone's word for it. How do they know it's that far away? We can't measure it. They have some theory based on the color of the light, well if you put copper in a fire it turns green, it doesn't go a million billion light years away. It kind of makes me think of that song Cosmic debris, by Frank Zappa.

Yep. They can only guess at extremely long scales and are many times wrong.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

They also use a theoretical math called parallax, in which they measure the distance traveled by comparison to other objects. What if they are all just travelling at different speeds? It's not like there is a cosmic speed limit and cops out there writing speeding tickets to stars.

 

[Dino246]

Humans have only been able to measure the two-way speed of light. It is physically impossible to measure the one-way speed of light. Because of that, there is no scientifically rigorous reason why light cannot travel from stars billions of light-years away to the earth in weeks, days, hours, or even seconds.

 

[KelbyofGod]

One day we will know, because we can ask Him.

Actually we can ask him now.

Ephesians 3:10 is explaining that even information about angels is available to God's people. (But few even seek it because people are taught that God doesn't answer anymore).

1 Corinthians 2:10 KJV
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

I'm not saying that everyone who reads this has the spirit of God. What I am saying is that God is willing to show these things but he also says "Ye have not because ye ask not".

So have you ever asked as though he is willing to answer?

I recommend that you do. It's worth the effort.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

 

[wolfwint]

Actually we can ask him now.

Ephesians 3:10 is explaining that even information about angels is available to God's people. (But few even seek it because people are taught that God doesn't answer anymore).

1 Corinthians 2:10 KJV
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

I'm not saying that everyone who reads this has the spirit of God. What I am saying is that God is willing to show these things but he also says "Ye have not because ye ask not".

So have you ever asked as though he is willing to answer?

I recommend that you do. It's worth the effort.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

Maby you have an closer contact to our heavenly father and get all answers the bible now let open. I am convinced that he has already revealed what we should to know in his word. I think it is in the nature of the human to want to know what is not known, insteadt to consider what is already known.

 

[Magenta]

Read to here. (yawn)

You are a very patient man

 

[JamOn]

Maby you have an closer contact to our heavenly father and get all answers the bible now let open. I am convinced that he has already revealed what we should to know in his word. I think it is in the nature of the human to want to know what is not known, insteadt to consider what is already known.

You make some good points, it would be like who would follow an ark into the unknown.

 

[RevelationMan]

If God created the universe in six ordinary days, then it adds upto nearly 6000 years from today. If so, how do we see the stars which are beyond 6000 light years? If we see a star which is 10000 light years away means, the star exists for at least 10000 years. If the age of universe is 6000 years, then it would take another 4000 years to see that star. Any thoughts??

refer to the book by Dr Hugh Ross "Creation and Time". This book outlines the creation account in Genesis 1 and 2 and explains how star light actually took that amount of time because the Universe is old.