Creation, The Flood, And Millions Of Years

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purgedconscience

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Budman said:
Like I said, my friend, I'm speaking about Christians who attempt to stuff millions of years into Genesis.
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Even worse. Billions of years.
 
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valiant

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Budman said:
Since we have the Bible, why would we need any more prophets?

What more can they tell us that God's word doesn't?
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well they can put you right about your false dogmatic ideas. God's word makes clear that the yoms of Genesis 1 are not 24 hour days but you allow yourself to be duped by Stan.
 
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kedge said:
That is an assumptive interpretation on your part, you have no absolute proof, but like all of us, we all have an opinion :)
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Not an assumption at all. God wrote it, I believe it.

If God used millions of years, He would have said so. Clearly.
 
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valiant

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Budman said:
I was thinking about this today...

If the theory of evolution didn't exist, you wouldn't have a single Christian saying that the days in Genesis weren't actual days.

Without Darwin, no one would be attempting to cram millions of years into the Bible.
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Thats nonsense. Any intelligent Christian not defending a theory would recognise the problems posed by Genesis 1 with a seven 24 hour day theory.
 
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valiant

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Budman said:
Not an assumption at all. God wrote it, I believe it.

If God used millions of years, He would have said so. Clearly.
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why? He wasn't as het up about time as you are. :) He just wanted them to know it was in HIS time.

In fact in the author's day there probably weren't the number words for it. OOOPS is that a 24 hour day?
 
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kedge

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Budman said:
Not an assumption at all. God wrote it, I believe it.

If God used millions of years, He would have said so. Clearly.
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Whatever floats your boat :), you believe what you believe i'm not stopping you or anyone else, anyone can assume an old earth because it looks old, check out deacy, worn out rocks so on and so forth, I just don't put a number to planet earth because of errors in our thinking.
 
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valiant said:
well they can put you right about your false dogmatic ideas. God's word makes clear that the yoms of Genesis 1 are not 24 hour days but you allow yourself to be duped by Stan.
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Stan?


What is "clear" is Genesis saying:

"And there was evening and there was morning, one day." (Genesis 1:5)

"And there was evening and there was morning, a second day." (Genesis 1:8)

"And there was evening and there was morning, a third day." (Genesis 1:13)

"And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day." (Genesis 1:19)

"And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day." (Genesis 1:23)

"And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day" (Genesis 1:31)


24 hour days. You can't squirm your way out of what is clearly written.


 
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purgedconscience

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valiant said:
well they can put you right about your false dogmatic ideas. God's word makes clear that the yoms of Genesis 1 are not 24 hour days but you allow yourself to be duped by Stan.
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So, the flowers of day three of creation weren't pollinated by the bees of either day 5 or 6 of creation for millions or billions of years? Please do tell us how that works.
 
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popeye

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Thank you. I apologise for my tone. I'm very passionate about this topic, as you can see. I don't believe it's a salvation issue, but it certainly can be for many. They recognise the disconnect between what 'science' says and what the Bible teaches and many distrust the Bible, leading to a fall away from God. I ask you to look into this a little more. Try using keywords at these particular sites. God bless, brother.

Articles - creation.com

https://answersingenesis.org/answers/
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This is why I post Rom 1 over and over.
It specifically says creation is HIS testimony,and because of it,"they" are without excuse.
 
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kedge

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purgedconscience said:
So, the flowers of day three of creation weren't pollinated by the bees of either day 5 or 6 of creation for millions or billions of years? Please do tell us how that works.
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Perhaps nobody is saying plant life, animal, creature man is millions or billions of years old ;)
 
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Tintin

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kedge said:
It's been pointed out many times that yom (day) can mean an extended period of time :D
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Context is key, absolutely, and yet the meaning of 'yom' is only ever questioned in early Genesis. Why is that? Oh, yes, the millions and billions of years of evolution and uniformitarianism.
 
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kedge said:
Whatever floats your boat :), you believe what you believe i'm not stopping you or anyone else, anyone can assume an old earth because it looks old, check out deacy, worn out rocks so on and so forth, I just don't put a number to planet earth because of errors in our thinking.
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Says the guy who said the earth is neither young nor old.

God created Adam as a fully formed adult, capable of reproduction from day one. Eve the same.

The animals, fruit bearing trees, flowering plants, all had the appearance of age an instant after their creation.

Stop trying to add man's sinful opinions into Scripture.
 
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popeye

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kedge said:
The universe could be billions of years old, nobody can prove absolutely that it is not :)
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Except the sun would either super nova or just fizz out. No billion of years can factor in
 
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Sorry Kedge, I meant this for Valiant.

Says the guy who said the earth is neither young nor old.
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popeye

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I have plenty more, but sure.

Explain why there was death and disease before Adam and Eve fell.
Explain why the Gap theory and its sibling beliefs only arose around the time uniformitarianism and evolution came into the mainstream. Before that, the Church believed what Genesis said. The most crazy beliefs from Church 'fathers' were that Creation was instantaneous or that each day represented a year. Long-ages didn't come into it at all.
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Huh?
Where is this?
 
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