Daniel 11:37, The Future Antichrist Will Be A Jew/Hebrew In Decent

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Also the Bible says the prince to come, the antichrist, will be from the people that overthrew Jerusalem in the first century which was the Roman Empire.
No it does not . Or you would have quoted it.
 

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The anti Christ cannot be a Pope. Every Pope has believed the Messiah was Jesus. That’s dogma. Dogma cannot be changed once it is promulgated.

It’s simply impossible for a future Pope to be that either. There is no way a priest can spend decades and decades doing his job while at the same time rejecting the divinity of Christ. There is no way that priest would not be expelled much less become a Cardinal that could be considered for election to the Bishop of Rome.
But things will change, and the Vatican has been infiltrated by the new age movement to change them from within, and get in the Cardinal positions and elect the Pope of their choosing when the time come.

God warns the saints of the new age movement which they interpret the Bible according to the occult and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual, and Jesus evolved to be an ascended master, and there is no God, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher and above Jesus.

When the New Age Christ starts working in the world he will push the agenda of the new age movement, and things will change drastically, and the Pope and Vatican will be on board with him.

The Bible says the Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until Jesus puts the world down which the new age movement is basically a Caucasian led plan so the Pope and Vatican will go along with the New Age Christ.

And since the Bible is the main thing they are trying to promote with an occult and evolution foundation then the false prophet would be someone very influential claiming the Bible which would fit the Pope as he becomes the head of a unified religious system with all religions interpreted by the new age movement, and the Vatican the headquarters.

It is obvious when the Roman Empire embraced Christianity that they did not get rid of their occult, pagan, ways, and it became their foundation for the interpreting of scriptures, so they can be persuaded by things of the world.

Like Joseph Smith had a belief that was not part of the Bible, and it became his foundation for interpreting the Bible, the Mormon church, as well as other people that had a belief not part of the Bible and it became their foundation.

Christian Science, and Scientology, and the new age movement, are seriously flawed churches that have a belief not part of the Bible and it became their foundation.
 

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No it does not . Or you would have quoted it.
Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The New Age Christ, antichrist, will negotiate peace in the Middle East, and there will be a peace treaty between Israel and the Palestinians for 7 years in the future, and will be the prince to come that will be from the people that overthrew Jerusalem which obviously they overthrew it in the first century, but the prince to come is in the future.

Which he will spread his new age occultism and belief system throughout the world which causes the world to rebel against God, and the 7 years peace treaty will be the last 7 years of mankind's rulership which God will end sin on Earth.
 

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The Bible says the Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until Jesus puts the world down which the new age movement is basically a Caucasian led plan so the Pope and Vatican will go along with the New Age Christ.
Where?
 

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It seems almost certain the antichrist and his prophet will be Israelites, which tribe I cannot say at present.
 

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Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The New Age Christ, antichrist, will negotiate peace in the Middle East, and there will be a peace treaty between Israel and the Palestinians for 7 years in the future, and will be the prince to come that will be from the people that overthrew Jerusalem which obviously they overthrew it in the first century, but the prince to come is in the future.

Which he will spread his new age occultism and belief system throughout the world which causes the world to rebel against God, and the 7 years peace treaty will be the last 7 years of mankind's rulership which God will end sin on Earth.
The Scriptures say what they say . You say what you say the two are not the same .
Scripture says ... Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

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Also the Bible says the prince to come, the antichrist, will be from the people that overthrew Jerusalem in the first century which was the Roman Empire.
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Beckie

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When since the days of Jesus has there not been antichrists?
 

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Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The New Age Christ, antichrist, will negotiate peace in the Middle East, and there will be a peace treaty between Israel and the Palestinians for 7 years in the future, and will be the prince to come that will be from the people that overthrew Jerusalem which obviously they overthrew it in the first century, but the prince to come is in the future.

Which he will spread his new age occultism and belief system throughout the world which causes the world to rebel against God, and the 7 years peace treaty will be the last 7 years of mankind's rulership which God will end sin on Earth.
It does not say "negotiate" or "make" it says confirm. (If you own a house and want to get a mortgage on that house the bank will "confirm" that you own the house. This doesn't mean they sell you the house, they simply confirm that the house belongs to you).

Nor does it say this covenant is a peace treaty with Israel, we assume that but it is simply an assumption. 9:26 was fulfilled in AD 70 by Titus. This "he" is obviously not the Messiah that was cut off, nor is it Titus who destroyed the city and the sanctuary. So it is very strange to use "he" for a new person not introduced. Therefore I conclude "he" will be like the Messiah (Antichrist -- counterfeit Christ).
 

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Dan 7:1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.
Dan 7:2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

Daniel had a vision of 4 kingdoms that shall come one after the other.

The first was Babylon.

The second was Medo-Persia.

The third was Greece.

The fourth is the Roman Empire.

10 horns come from them which is the next kingdom to come which is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section, which they shall devour the whole Earth, tread it down, and break it in pieces.

The little horn, antichrist, comes from the 10 horns, so the antichrist, is of the Roman Empire.

Dan 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 7:26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
Dan 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

The first 3 beasts will never have dominion again but their lives were prolonged for a time and season, which means their ways are still on Earth, but the Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until Jesus puts them down.

Which Babylon represents human religion, the occult, the kingdom of man.

Medo-Persia represents physical cruelty in war.

Greece represents human wisdom.

The Roman Empire represents pushing for power and territory, world domination.

And they all show up at the beast kingdom in Revelation 13, the kingdom of man in its entirety.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

The new age movement that shall come out at the latter times that has an occult interpretation of the Bible.

The time will come the world will not want to hear the Bible according to the truth but the new age movement.

When the New Age Christ starts working in the world he will push the agenda of the new age movement and things will change drastically.

The new age movement will cause the world to follow the New Age Christ.

They follow Lucifer which God said their beliefs are of seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.

The new age movement is a Caucasian led plan that will suck the nations in to it which they believe the next evolutionary step is the 5th root race, Aryans, 6th sub-race.

Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

This still applies that the Spirit will guide us in to all truth, and show us things to come.

Just because the Bible does not say new age movement specifically you can still know what it refers to at the end time, the latter times, concerning a false interpretation of the Bible, and people only want to hear it that way in the future.

There can be no other explanation for the world will rebel against God because they are exalting themselves, and not believing in a God, and the new age movement is the only explanation which they came out at the latter times, and they follow Lucifer so their beliefs are of seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, and it is a Caucasian plan and the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts down the world.

Nah 2:3 The shield of his mighty men is made red, the valiant men are in scarlet: the chariots shall be with flaming torches in the day of his preparation, and the fir trees shall be terribly shaken.
Nah 2:4 The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like the lightnings.

This is obviously talking about automobiles but Nahum did not know to call them that but knew chariots is a form of transportation.

Just because the Bible does not say automobiles does not mean we do not know what it is talking about.
 

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Dan 7:1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.
Dan 7:2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

Daniel had a vision of 4 kingdoms that shall come one after the other.

The first was Babylon.

The second was Medo-Persia.

The third was Greece.

The fourth is the Roman Empire.

10 horns come from them which is the next kingdom to come which is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section, which they shall devour the whole Earth, tread it down, and break it in pieces.

The little horn, antichrist, comes from the 10 horns, so the antichrist, is of the Roman Empire.

Dan 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 7:26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
Dan 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

The first 3 beasts will never have dominion again but their lives were prolonged for a time and season, which means their ways are still on Earth, but the Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until Jesus puts them down.

Which Babylon represents human religion, the occult, the kingdom of man.

Medo-Persia represents physical cruelty in war.

Greece represents human wisdom.

The Roman Empire represents pushing for power and territory, world domination.

And they all show up at the beast kingdom in Revelation 13, the kingdom of man in its entirety.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

The new age movement that shall come out at the latter times that has an occult interpretation of the Bible.

The time will come the world will not want to hear the Bible according to the truth but the new age movement.

When the New Age Christ starts working in the world he will push the agenda of the new age movement and things will change drastically.

The new age movement will cause the world to follow the New Age Christ.

They follow Lucifer which God said their beliefs are of seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.

The new age movement is a Caucasian led plan that will suck the nations in to it which they believe the next evolutionary step is the 5th root race, Aryans, 6th sub-race.

Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

This still applies that the Spirit will guide us in to all truth, and show us things to come.

Just because the Bible does not say new age movement specifically you can still know what it refers to at the end time, the latter times, concerning a false interpretation of the Bible, and people only want to hear it that way in the future.

There can be no other explanation for the world will rebel against God because they are exalting themselves, and not believing in a God, and the new age movement is the only explanation which they came out at the latter times, and they follow Lucifer so their beliefs are of seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, and it is a Caucasian plan and the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts down the world.

Nah 2:3 The shield of his mighty men is made red, the valiant men are in scarlet: the chariots shall be with flaming torches in the day of his preparation, and the fir trees shall be terribly shaken.
Nah 2:4 The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like the lightnings.

This is obviously talking about automobiles but Nahum did not know to call them that but knew chariots is a form of transportation.

Just because the Bible does not say automobiles does not mean we do not know what it is talking about.
I agree with everything but the term "caucasian" plan. Babylonian king was Persian, Medo Persia was also not caucasian. The Greek empire included much that was not caucasian and likewise with the Roman Empire.

When we say "caucasian" we primarily mean Northern European and northern Russia. Neither of these were in any of the four empires.

The ten toes represent 10 kings and that is not the EU. Instead the UN has a plan to divide the world into 10 kingdoms. That would represent everyone, not simply caucasians.

Also, the false prophet would be considered a major player in the "plan" and either he is from Israel or he is the pope (obviously they both can have false prophets). Once again, neither of these is necessarily caucasian.

Also, the Bible clearly refers to someone called "the Assyrian" as a key player, perhaps even the Antichrist, and so he also is not Caucasian.
 

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Dan 7:1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.
Dan 7:2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

Daniel had a vision of 4 kingdoms that shall come one after the other.

The first was Babylon.

The second was Medo-Persia.

The third was Greece.

The fourth is the Roman Empire.

10 horns come from them which is the next kingdom to come which is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section, which they shall devour the whole Earth, tread it down, and break it in pieces.

The little horn, antichrist, comes from the 10 horns, so the antichrist, is of the Roman Empire.

Dan 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 7:26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
Dan 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

The first 3 beasts will never have dominion again but their lives were prolonged for a time and season, which means their ways are still on Earth, but the Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until Jesus puts them down.

Which Babylon represents human religion, the occult, the kingdom of man.

Medo-Persia represents physical cruelty in war.

Greece represents human wisdom.

The Roman Empire represents pushing for power and territory, world domination.

And they all show up at the beast kingdom in Revelation 13, the kingdom of man in its entirety.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

The new age movement that shall come out at the latter times that has an occult interpretation of the Bible.

The time will come the world will not want to hear the Bible according to the truth but the new age movement.

When the New Age Christ starts working in the world he will push the agenda of the new age movement and things will change drastically.

The new age movement will cause the world to follow the New Age Christ.

They follow Lucifer which God said their beliefs are of seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.

The new age movement is a Caucasian led plan that will suck the nations in to it which they believe the next evolutionary step is the 5th root race, Aryans, 6th sub-race.

Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

This still applies that the Spirit will guide us in to all truth, and show us things to come.

Just because the Bible does not say new age movement specifically you can still know what it refers to at the end time, the latter times, concerning a false interpretation of the Bible, and people only want to hear it that way in the future.

There can be no other explanation for the world will rebel against God because they are exalting themselves, and not believing in a God, and the new age movement is the only explanation which they came out at the latter times, and they follow Lucifer so their beliefs are of seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, and it is a Caucasian plan and the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts down the world.

Nah 2:3 The shield of his mighty men is made red, the valiant men are in scarlet: the chariots shall be with flaming torches in the day of his preparation, and the fir trees shall be terribly shaken.
Nah 2:4 The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like the lightnings.

This is obviously talking about automobiles but Nahum did not know to call them that but knew chariots is a form of transportation.

Just because the Bible does not say automobiles does not mean we do not know what it is talking about.
Your view . You add much to the Scriptures
 

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Mat_16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
I am often amazed at Christian folks who show Christ to be powerless in their postings, and beliefs . This thread is full of such.

Isa 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
 

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The Antichrist will not be Jewish.
The antichrist has been among us for centuries.
Who is he? In a minute I will answer that question.

But first we need to understand that the word antichrist as it relates to prophecy does not only mean to oppose God. It means to take the place of God, and there is one antichrist who has elevated himself throughout history. This antichrist has various names throughout scriptures. Here is one along with his attempt to usurp the position of God on earth:

2 Thess 2:3-4 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Before Jesus returns (vs 1,2) there must be a falling away and that man of sin or son of perdition be revealed, who opposeth and exalteth himself above God and what is worshipped, and sitteth in a temple as God, shewing himself to be God.

Paul 's words depicts an arrogant power that opposes all competitors in the field of religion and permits no rival to receive the worship he claims for himself. The overbearing power assumes divine prerogatives, with reference to the true God and not simply pagan deities.

There is only one religious power that meets this qualification throughout the centuries.

In a place presumably dedicated to the worship of the true God the wicked one sits soliciting worship for himself. His taking his seat in the inner sanctuary of the temple reveals that he claims to sit "as God," that indeed, "he is God." Blasphemy can go no further.

The marks of identify enumerated in vs. 3, 4 are already familiar and found elsewhere in the scriptures. A clear comparison can be made with Daniel's prophecy of the blasphemous power that succeeds that of pagan Rome (Dan 7:8, 19-25) and with John's word picture of the leopardlike beast (Rev 13:1-18). This leads to the conclusion that Paul, Daniel and John are speaking of the same power, namely the papacy.
 

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Wow, let's look at those verses

Daniel 8:8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great:

The Goat represents the kingdom of Alexander the Great.

and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.

This is confirmed by this section because when Alexander the Great died his kingdom was divided up into four.

9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn,

The "little horn" is the name for the Antichrist and also the nickname for King Charles. This does not in any way say that he must be born in Greece, what it does say is he must be descended from one of these four. King Charles father is "the Prince of Greece". "Out of one of them" indicates descended from one of the four.
It most certainly MANDATES this end time Little Horn has to be born in Greece/Macedonia because of the DIRECTION in which he conquers, did you like most miss that? We get an inter kingdom battle called the Syrian Wars, there were like Six (6) of these wars and we have an historical account of them all, I have a thread that names every player an d person ion Dan. 11, its what I do, it is my calling of 38 years. It runs the gambit from Alexander the Great, to Cleopatra, to Antiochus Epiphanes IV in verses 21-34, we also se the ARCHETYPE False Prophet in Onias III (a Jewish High Priest). You see I did an Exegesis of Daniel 11 and 12 a few years ago. So, how do we know where he has to be born? God gives us a very SIMPLE Four Way Directional box. The Little Horn is not about Antiochus, the Little Horn refers to a Beast Kingdom where not other man takes over for the original Beast like all the other did via passing on Beast Systems, thus the Kingdoms were the Beast, with the LAST BEAST he never passes his kingdom o hence he is the a Little Horn or Beast himself as both Dan. 7:11 and Rev. 19:20 tells us. That is why Rev. 17 shows 7 Beasts (Mountains/Powers) that ARISE and 7 Kings who FALL. Only the LAST BEAST both Arises and Falls. So lets look at the scripture.

Dan. 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn(ONLY ONE), which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

So, since we know he Conquers Israel/Jerusalem we know the Waxes Great TOWARDS means he conquers in that direction. Lets look at a map of the Four Generals Kingdoms:

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In Daniel 11:40-43 the Anti-Christ will conquer Egypt and Israel, and the MANY COUNTRIES, he will not be allowed to conquer Moab, Ammon and Edom (modern day Jordan where the Petra/Bozrah area is at) but if he conquers TOWARDS the East in this Four Way Directional box Go gave us that means he conquers Turkey (Seleucus) Egypt (Ptolemy) and Israel. Thus you can only conquer from the Northwest in order to fulfill this Prophecy, which means from Cassander/Macedonia/Greece.

Everything else you posted is not even worthy of discussion tbh.
 

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The Roman Empire has 10 horns coming from it which is the next kingdom to come which is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section, which they shall devour the whole Earth, tread it down, and break it in pieces, which the little horn comes from the 10 horns which comes from the Roman Empire.
No its not, 10 = COMPLETION, just like 10 Virgins = complete Christendom.

The 10 is simply God saying COMPLETE Europe United, the partly strong partly weak is what they are, they have strong nations and many weaklings acting under one umbrella. So, 10 = 27 nations or 25 or whatever it is.
 

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It most certainly MANDATES this end time Little Horn has to be born in Greece/Macedonia because of the DIRECTION in which he conquers, did you like most miss that? We get an inter kingdom battle called the Syrian Wars, there were like Six (6) of these wars and we have an historical account of them all, I have a thread that names every player an d person ion Dan. 11, its what I do, it is my calling of 38 years. It runs the gambit from Alexander the Great, to Cleopatra, to Antiochus Epiphanes IV in verses 21-34, we also se the ARCHETYPE False Prophet in Onias III (a Jewish High Priest). You see I did an Exegesis of Daniel 11 and 12 a few years ago. So, how do we know where he has to be born? God gives us a very SIMPLE Four Way Directional box. The Little Horn is not about Antiochus, the Little Horn refers to a Beast Kingdom where not other man takes over for the original Beast like all the other did via passing on Beast Systems, thus the Kingdoms were the Beast, with the LAST BEAST he never passes his kingdom o hence he is the a Little Horn or Beast himself as both Dan. 7:11 and Rev. 19:20 tells us. That is why Rev. 17 shows 7 Beasts (Mountains/Powers) that ARISE and 7 Kings who FALL. Only the LAST BEAST both Arises and Falls. So lets look at the scripture.

Dan. 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn(ONLY ONE), which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

So, since we know he Conquers Israel/Jerusalem we know the Waxes Great TOWARDS means he conquers in that direction. Lets look at a map of the Four Generals Kingdoms:

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In Daniel 11:40-43 the Anti-Christ will conquer Egypt and Israel, and the MANY COUNTRIES, he will not be allowed to conquer Moab, Ammon and Edom (modern day Jordan where the Petra/Bozrah area is at) but if he conquers TOWARDS the East in this Four Way Directional box Go gave us that means he conquers Turkey (Seleucus) Egypt (Ptolemy) and Israel. Thus you can only conquer from the Northwest in order to fulfill this Prophecy, which means from Cassander/Macedonia/Greece.

Everything else you posted is not even worthy of discussion tbh.
The verses you are quoting talk about his kingdom and his genealogy, there is no verse that says where he will be born.

I have read from many great Bible expositors and they all have a variety of interpretations. When I hear someone that is as belligerent as this, I change the channel. Adios.
 

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Why should we study about the Antichrist?

The goal is not so we can say so and so is the antichrist. There is very little value in that and a very high risk of error. The Antichrist does not fully become this one the bible prophesies about until he dies and is resuscitated. No, the key verses are to help us identify the major warning signals, not simply about one person but about the many antichrists that John tells us of, or the false prophets or the false Christs that the bible warns us of.

It is foolish to be wed to one doctrine on this. In the 1970s I remember many brothers theorizing that Prince Charles would be the antichrist, then later I saw a lot of compelling evidence concerning Obama being the rider on the white horse, and then evidence concerning Emmanuel Macron. I was open to one and all as long as there was revelation from the word of God that ministered light and life.

This is not an item of the faith, and therefore it is something that we can be general about. Jesus Christ coming in the Flesh and Jesus Christ being the only way to the father, those are items of the faith and not something to be general about.

Recently I have seen so much evidence based on Bible prophecy concerning King Charles that it is truly astounding, far more than I saw with Obama or Macron, but to be fair some of the evidence suggests he is the rider of the pale green horse.

But regardless the role he is to play I think it is undeniable at this point that these three (Obama, Macron and Charles) are antichrists who deny Jesus has come in the Flesh and they deny that Jesus is the only way to the father. Now if they repent and get saved in the future that would be wonderful, but for the moment their denial of the faith once for all delivered to the saints is powerful evidence beyond any reasonable doubt.

So why would anyone, like rondonmon be so belligerent about this? Especially with such vague verses like "toward the South, toward the East and toward the pleasant land" as though that somehow is proof that he must be born in Greece? I can only guess two possible reasons. This verse has nothing to do with the faith once for all delivered to the saints, instead it could be a matter of ego, or worse, it could be some intense reason to try and turn people from considering Charles, Obama and Macron. Besides the Antichrist and his entourage I can't see why anyone would be so heavily invested in telling people it isn't them.
 

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At my age i can remember when Henry Kissinger was labeled the antichrist . The Scriptures are written in a wonderful way they keep us guessing at all the surrounding stuff.
When since the time of Christ on earth has not been antichrist? Are we to keep our eyes on Him or waste time seeking the antichrist of this or that generation?
 

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At my age i can remember when Henry Kissinger was labeled the antichrist . The Scriptures are written in a wonderful way they keep us guessing at all the surrounding stuff.
When since the time of Christ on earth has not been antichrist? Are we to keep our eyes on Him or waste time seeking the antichrist of this or that generation?
I think every word of God is profitable for teaching, but we should be balanced. The Bible talks a little about the Antichrist, but if we include false prophets, false Christs, and discernment there is quite a bit more. If you throw in types of the antichrist like Adonijah there is a little more. But it certainly is not a major topic.

When you consider that "Antichrist" is "counterfeit Christ" then it certainly makes sense to focus on how to discern the real thing from the counterfeit.

But the one thing becomes clear and that is we are no longer just talking about one man in the future but the kind of deceits and counterfeits we see everyday.
 

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The verses you are quoting talk about his kingdom and his genealogy, there is no verse that says where he will be born.
This just proves you can't handle facts that destroy your thesis or understanding.

He Conquers TOWARDS The East, the South an d Israel TELLS US where he CONQUERS FROM !! LOL Its a very telling passage. Now when you COMBINE Dan. 7:7-8 that states he must arise out of the Fourth Beasts Head (Rome........E.U.) and understand that out of all of those Four Generals Kingdoms ONLY Greece is in the E.U. this becomes a solved prophecy. Psstt, he will also be of Turkish descent via his BLOODLINE, so he's a Turk/Iraqi (Old Assyria) whose family migrated to Greece where he must be born, and thus he being born in Greece is QUALIFIED to become the E.U. President.

I have read from many great Bible expositors and they all have a variety of interpretations. When I hear someone that is as belligerent as this, I change the channel. Adios.
God is no respecter of men, you seem to be. Psstt, I live in the end times when God has stated to Daniel and others, that He was going to reveal His deep truths, they did not live in thee times. My advantage, its easier to see things looking backwards in time, plus I live in a time when God is going to give dreams, visions and understanding to the wise.

By the way, the word you used means hostile, LOL, me showing you why you are in error is not
"HOSTILE" it just proves you are in error. Pssttt, its OK t be wrong, when I prayed to God a few years back, "Lord, why is it in these end times, when you stated you would reveal all, is it that we have 100s of interpretations of who the 144,000 are, what the Beast represents in full, where Babylon is or what it means, who the Harlot is etc. etc. why is it Lord we have so many interpretations when there is only ONE TRUTH?"

And I got this from the Lord "Ron, you guys already know it all"

So, God was saying we can not get his TRUTHS because we cling to our own TRUTHS or Men's Traditions. So, later I wrote a blog saying "THAT CITY" in Rev. 17:18 was Rome, a long, very studious effort, only to have the Holy Spirit tell me, "Ron, you are wrong, look at what John SAW (SAWEST) in the vision" And as I looked I realized the vision is only 4 verses long (verses 3-6) and that John's city was Babylon the Great. So, I had to redo my blog (I love being WRONG it means Go is TEACHING ME) and I was then given who the Harlot is. There is NO MYSTERY Babylon, Mystery is like a question mark(?) In verse 7 the Angel says COME I will show you a Mystery of the Harlot AND the [Gov.] Beasts she rides.

So, Mystery is a HEADER and then we get THREE DESCRIPTORS of who she is.

MYSTERY (?)

1.) Babylon the Great (The City noted for its FALSE RELIGION)
2.) Mother of Harlots
(The Original Harlotry was FALSE RELIGION)
3.) Abominations of the Earth ( God so hates FALSE RELIGION He sees it as an Abomination)

So, THE HARLOT is ALL False Religion of all-time, and every Beast had FALSE RELIGION at its core, or RIDING its Back. The Last Beast however will KILL HER OFF but why? Because the Ant-Christ says I am GOD, there thus is no room for Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Jupiter, Zeus or any other Religion in his Kingdom. Rev. 17 is ALL FALSE Religion being judged by the 10 Kings (E.U. and the Beast) and Rev. 18 is God Himself judging the WHOLE WORLD (Babylon).

You will never get God's DEEP TRUTHS by slighting people when the prove you to be in error brother.