DANIEL CHAPTER ONE

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Job 9:8

- The universe is made of emptiness and yet there is so much activity


- And everything is balanced, the whole keeps together in spite of everything going in every direction!


- And we can say the same with the oceans: they are so powerful!


- And yet the only thing we find is polluting them and destroying life inside!


- We can see the majesty of God and man appears as a rat: but he will never be able to destroy God’s creation!
 
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Job 9:9

- Just opening our eyes at night when we can see some stars!

- Everything made by God is incredible!

- We can’t say the same with man!

- On the contrary, man is a pale imitator!

- Man can only destroy and pollute!
 
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Job 9:10

- They are so great and so numerous!

- And he used all his huge army of angels!

- God’s creation is so complex that man will never understand anything!

- Only crumbs!
 
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Job 9:11

- God’s creation tells about God himself!

- We don’t understand his creation: that’s one thing!

- But God himself: no way, he is unbelievable!

- We can only approach his nature through his creation looking down!
 
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Job 9:12

- God could have erased the devil and the demons and Adam and so on as the ridiculous human dictators usually do!

- But no, he let them all act to prove through God’s justice that they are liars and that God is the only one who can govern the universe and all its creatures!

- That’s why we have to bear human rats acting and bringing misery to humanity till God would have proved we are only rats unable to govern ourselves!

- That’s why we have to wait for God to put an end to this FARCE!
 
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Job 9:12

- God could have erased the devil and the demons and Adam and so on as the ridiculous human dictators usually do!

- But no, he let them all act to prove through God’s justice that they are liars and that God is the only one who can govern the universe and all its creatures!

- That’s why we have to bear human rats acting and bringing misery to humanity till God would have proved we are only rats unable to govern ourselves!

- That’s why we have to wait for God to put an end to this FARCE!
 
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Job 9:14

- This verse is incredible: it tells a lot about Job’s relationship with God!

- You can be close to someone but yet show respect and here Job says “choose my words carefully to argue with him”!

- I don’t remember something so deep!
 
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Job 9:15

- What does being right in front of God mean?

- He is the creator of everything!

- The universe is incredible!

- We don’t know anything!

- We have everything to learn from God!

- Even the possibility of living forever in the future won’t be enough!
 
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Job 9:16

- A human being is nothing compared to God!

- A creator of the universe and one small creature of his creation!

- Just think about the few cases who had the opportunity to have a personal contact with him!
 
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Job 9:17

- Here we go: Now Job finally speaks about what happened to him. He lost everything and even his health and so on. And here is the point: he only knows God and he has always served him faithfully and he has been blessed by him. And he keeps being faithful and he has lost everything all at once and he knows that it is not natural! So he can only think about God and he doesn’t understand why!


- Think about the Israelites: they only knew God! When they acted according to God’s will, they were blessed, but when they acted against him, they were struck!


- So the devil is really tricky because he knows that and he knows that Job will think that God is against him without any reason! So it is really insane!


- NOT UNDERSTANDING THIS ESSENTIAL ELEMENT AND WE MISS THE WHOLE STORY!
 
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Job 9:18

- Of course! And Job speaks about his physical and mental health!

- He speaks about his stress and his anguish and his lack of rest: In fact, he has no rest!

- It is worst than torture!
 
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Job 9:19

- These words of Job clearly show his misunderstanding of the situation!

- Now think about God: For God there is no one like Job on earth, there is no one as faithful as him, and he must let Job think what he thinks because of the devil to show that he is a liar and also because all the angels are observing the situation!

The more we learn about God, the more we may understand it was a really difficult and painful situation for God because he really cares about his faithful servants!
 
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Job 9:20

- Job has so few elements so he can only be lost!

- Once again he only knows God, his only reference is God, there is nothing else!

- It’s astonishing the consequences that missing two essential elements can produce!

- JOB ONLY HAS ONE REFERENCE: YAH.WEH!

- THE BOOK OF JOB SHOWS US ALL THE WEAPONS USED BY THE DEVIL!

- AND ONLY HIS WEAPONS!

- THIS IS A COMPLETELY UNBALANCED FIGHT!

- YAH.WEH CAN DO NOTHING TO DEFEND JOB!

- BECAUSE JOB’S LOYALTY IS AT Stake!

- JOB IS ALL ALONE FACING THE DEVIL!

- AND HE ONLY HAS ONE WEAPON: HIS LOYALTY!

- But even when we do not have these two elements, the words of Yahweh concerning Job should allow us to understand Job's attitude!

- THERE IS NO ONE LIKE HIM ON EARTH!

- It is probably because fidelity to Yah.weh is something extremely rare that we can allow ourselves to criticize Job!

- Normally it should be the opposite!

- He should be an example of faithfulness for all of us!

- But if Yah.weh does not do it, what right can we afford to do it?

- Nowhere in the Bible is there a faithful man who makes sacrifices taking into account the possibility of his children speaking evil of Yah.weh in their hearts!

- Nowhere!

- How is it possible to criticize him?

- Is this unforgivable?

- Such ignorance is beyond me!

- Especially when it is widespread!

- When infidelity is the rule everywhere, we seek to condemn fidelity!

- Find the error!
 
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Job 9:21

- Job is faithful to God and he is not going to change!

- But he knows his situation and he can’t bear it, he has enough of it!

- The use of the two verbs keep / reject are clear: he makes a difference between his faith in God and his life!

- Remember his personal situation: month after month, nothing improves, on the contrary, everything goes worse!

- And the three individuals are there to make it worse so he doesn’t get any rest!

- But whatever happens, his faithfulness is not for sale!

- But he has no hope, so it would be better to put an end to it!
 
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Job 9:22

- When Job thinks of his dreadful situation, knowing that he has done nothing wrong, there is no difference between being innocent and wicked!

-Think about Job’s feelings!

- He is bitter!

- He has no hope!

- And time is working against him!

- Yes, there is no one like him on earth!

- Thus, it is difficult to imagine!

- It is why we have a lot to learn from him!
 
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Job 9:23

- Job can be killed, the innocent can be killed!

- But they will keep being innocent!

- It won’t change anything!
 
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Job 9:24

- Here we are again: Job only knows God!


- He doesn’t know that the devil is controlling the world and he is the one who is responsible!

- In fact, in a way, the world is in Job’s situation, but it is the world, not only one man but the whole of humanity, and who is going to be faithful like Job?
 
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Job 9:25

- Whatever may happen to Job, in spite of his stress, his ideas about his personal situation are clear: every day is alike, Job doesn’t wait for anything, he has no hope!

- Whatever the three individuals say, Job won’t change his mind!

- He keeps straight in his boots!
 
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Job 9:26

- Job’s mind is so clear!

- His images are so precise!

- What a man!

- Who in such a situation would be able to stand mentally straight!

- He always fights back!

- Nobody can stop him speaking and opening his mind!
 
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Job 9:27

- Job knows he is faithful!

- But he also knows he is in trouble!

- And it wasn’t so before!

- So he can’t understand because it seems he is guilty but he doesn’t know what he has done wrong!
 
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