Dear Lost One...

[zain]

Follow these verses and ask the Father to guide you to the truth :

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Genesis 17:1-4 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me and be thou perfect. 2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. 3 And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, 4 As for Me, behold, My covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Deuteronomy 5:6-9 I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 7 Thou shalt have none other gods before Me. 8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: 9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them nor serve them...[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]The very fact that God is instructing people not to “bow down” to idols, means that bowing is a valid form of worship.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Psalm 95:6 O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the Lord our Maker.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Note that both bowing and kneeling are mentioned in Psalm 95:6, the very order in which Muslims perform them.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Deuteronomy 9:24-25 Ye have been rebellious against the Lord from the day that I knew you. 25 Thus I fell down before the Lord forty days and forty nights, as I fell down the first; because the Lord had said He would destroy you.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Revelations 7:11-12 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Joshua 7:6-7 And Joshua rent his clothes, and fell to the earth upon his face before the ark of the Lord until eventide, he and the elders of Israel, and put dust upon their heads. 7 And Joshua said, Alas, O Lord God, wherefore hast Thou at all brought this people over Jordan, to deliver us into the hand of the Amorites, to destroy us? Would to God we had been content, and dwelt on the other side of the Jordan![/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Numbers 16:20-22 And the Lord spake unto Moses and Aaron, saying, 21 Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment. 22 And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt Thou be wroth with the all of the congregation?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Numbers 20:6 And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the Lord appeared unto them.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Thus far, we have read that Moses, Joshua, Aaron, and Abraham (peace be upon them all) worshipped the One True God through prostration and bowing. The angels did the same. And in Matthew 26:39 Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) also puts his face to the ground in humility before God.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Matthew 26:36-39 Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gesthemane, and saith unto his disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder. 37 And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be very sorrowful and heavy. 38 Then saith he unto them, my soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death; tarry ye here, and watch with me. 39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: [/FONT]

 

[zain]

The Father will save you if you prostrate to Him and humbleness and ask eagerly for the truth. Are we better than His prophets who did this? of course not.

 

[oyster67]

Why would you think this was addressing you?

I was the one who started the thread. I could have clarified things a little better at the start.

I wasn't sure what Utah was saying in his response. You clarified that very nicely. All is well, brother.

Godspeed.

 

[crossnote]

Now that I'm awake and relooked, zain was most likely a muslim.
I don’t know why he couldn't just come out and say it when asked.

 

[Magenta]

I too quoted many but they seem ignored.

They were not ignored. I asked for what you demanded, and YOU were unable to live up to your own standard. You deny the obvious.

 

[Magenta]

Now that I'm awake and relooked, zain was most likely a muslim.
I don’t know why he couldn't just come out and say it when asked.

Muslims are specifically told to lie for their cause.

 

[Magenta]

if Jesus died it means he was overpowered by something stronger than him; how can he be god then ? The one who overcame him should be .

All power and authority was given to Jesus. In His own words He claimed to have the power to take up His life again following death. His physical body died but not His spirit, and then He arose with spirit and body joined again. Why is it you fail to grasp that? Do you deny the resurrection?

 

[oyster67]

Dear Lost One,

Jesus is the only way to the Father. Jesus and the Father are one. Jesus sits with the Father at this moment.

Acts 4:10-12 (KJV)
10) Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, [even] by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
11) This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12) Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

John 14:6 (KJV)
6) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

 

[beingJustifiedFreely]

You all are wresting the scriptures unto your own destruction! Why are ye telling lost people that God loves them when in the first four chapters of Romans God DOES NOT tell a sinner that he loves them! You find out later in chapter 5 that we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, and all these blessings of love come pouring out of the page. But that is after he justifies you freely if AND ONLY IF you believe what God told you to do in those first four chapters.
Goto thescripturesalonebibleschoolnet and click on salvation

 

[oyster67]

I was in sin's prison, oh, so dark and cold
Like a lost sheep wandering from God's eternal fold.
Then the door swung open, and He spoke to me,
"I have signed your pardon, now you may go free."



Chorus
Jesus signed my pardon, this I surely know
Took my place at Calvary, now I won't have to go.
All my life I'll give to Him - He gave His for me
When He signed my pardon there at Calvary.

Since the Savior led me from that awful place
I can hear the angels as they sing Amazing Grace.
I know I was pardoned from my sin and shame
When I joined them singing, "Glory to His name."



Chorus
Jesus signed my pardon, this I surely know
Took my place at Calvary, now I won't have to go.
All my life I'll give to Him - He gave His for me
When He signed my pardon there at Calvary.

Life is now worth living since I've been set free.
I'm so glad He was willing to save a wretch like me.
Now I have a mansion, not a prison wall.
Jesus signed my pardon, Jesus paid it all.



Chorus
Jesus signed my pardon, this I surely know
Took my place at Calvary, now I won't have to go.
All my life I'll give to Him - He gave His for me
When He signed my pardon there at Calvary.

Yes, Jesus signed my pardon - Jesus paid it all!

 

[oyster67]

Do you want to be pure and clean?

Not everyone does, but if you do, then there is a way. It is expensive, but fortunately someone has already paid for your operation. All you have to do is show up and sign on the dotted line.

John 3:16-21 (KJV)
16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17) For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18) He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19) And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20) For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21) But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.