Death curses the law

[TMS]

It isn't that hard to comprehend.....

God is perfect and created a perfect loving universe.

Sin is selfish and oposite to the love

The wages of sin is death. The result of sin is death. The man that sins shall surely die. Rom 6:23
"for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die". Gen 2:17

Sin = death

Sin is defined by the moral law of God.

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Rom_3:20 .... for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Rom_5:13 .... but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom_7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The law is not sin. The law is not death.

It defines sin and sin results in death.

When The law is disobeyed it results in sin, which results in death.

 

[posthuman]

After the fall the lord says

I now know through my choice what you need before you need it.

no,

He doesn't.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

no,

He doesn't.

yes he does when you see the understanding

 

[posthuman]

when you have a choice to believe God is ignorant or God knows something, it's generally a horrible idea to decide God is dumb.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

pretty bold for you to put words in God's mouth that He never said.

when you see the understanding the bold words have been put in my heart.


You can't put words in God's mouth.

 

[posthuman]

yes he does when you see the understanding

Proverbs 30:6​

Do not add to His words, ​

lest He rebuke you, ​

and you be found a liar.​

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

when you have a choice to believe God is ignorant or God knows something, it's generally a horrible idea to decide God is dumb.

. Putting word in mouths has been your recipe.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Proverbs 30:6​

Do not add to His words, ​

lest He rebuke you, ​

and you be found a liar.​

again where diverting from the truth

God says after the fall when you pray I know what you need before you ask .

Do you believe this

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Proverbs 30:6​

Do not add to His words, ​

lest He rebuke you, ​

and you be found a liar.​

liars don't inherit the kingdom of God

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

when you have a choice to believe God is ignorant or God knows something, it's generally a horrible idea to decide God is dumb.

You must be talking about yourself

God said when you pray I know what you need before you ask

 

[posthuman]

again where diverting from the truth

God says after the fall when you pray I know what you need before you ask .

Do you believe this

telling the Truth isn't diverting from the Truth.

Psalms 147:5​

Great is our Lord, ​

and mighty in power; ​

His understanding is infinite! ​

​

the Truth is that any position that claims God doesn't understand anything or that God is ignorant of anything at any time, is clearly wrong.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

It isn't that hard to comprehend.....

God is perfect and created a perfect loving universe.

Sin is selfish and oposite to the love

The wages of sin is death. The result of sin is death. The man that sins shall surely die. Rom 6:23
"for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die". Gen 2:17

Sin = death

Sin is defined by the moral law of God.

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Rom_3:20 .... for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Rom_5:13 .... but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom_7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The law is not sin. The law is not death.

It defines sin and sin results in death.

When The law is disobeyed it results in sin, which results in death.

man is not born spiritualy dead to God hes born spiritualy alive to the power of death.

God has the power of life and death in his spirit

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

telling the Truth isn't diverting from the Truth.

Psalms 147:5​

Great is our Lord, ​

and mighty in power; ​

His understanding is infinite! ​

​

the Truth is that any position that claims God doesn't understand anything or that God is ignorant of anything at any time, is clearly wrong.

God said when you pray I know what you need before you ask

Do you agree with this

 

[Dino246]

You can't put words in God's mouth.

Since that's exactly what you are doing, you are a hypocrite.

 

[TMS]

man is not born spiritualy dead to God hes born spiritualy alive to the power of death.

God has the power of life and death in his spirit

Please back up your thought with bible verses...
The new age doctrine has conteminated many christian teachings, and people are following the lies.

Isa_8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

God does have the power of life and death and i did not claim that man was born spiritually dead.

We are born with a fallen nature and every human (except Christ) has sinned. One sin = death.

Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

We need to be delieved from this body of death and praise God Jesus has done all to save us. We can't do it ourselves.

Delieverance doesn't mean saving the flesh or making the flesh good. The answer is found in Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Die to the flesh that is evil.

Baptism is about being born again and we are told to die daily. The flesh will continue to tempt us and desire to rule in us but we are told to die to the flesh and let the Spirit live in us. Walk in the Spirit.... Rom 8

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Please back up your thought with bible verses...
The new age doctrine has conteminated many christian teachings, and people are following the lies.

Isa_8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

God does have the power of life and death and i did not claim that man was born spiritually dead.

We are born with a fallen nature and every human (except Christ) has sinned. One sin = death.

Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

We need to be delieved from this body of death and praise God Jesus has done all to save us. We can't do it ourselves.

Delieverance doesn't mean saving the flesh or making the flesh good. The answer is found in Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Die to the flesh that is evil.

Baptism is about being born again and we are told to die daily. The flesh will continue to tempt us and desire to rule in us but we are told to die to the flesh and let the Spirit live in us. Walk in the Spirit.... Rom 8

I've just wrote the full understanding 😊

https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/gods-life.214817/

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Please back up your thought with bible verses...
The new age doctrine has conteminated many christian teachings, and people are following the lies.

Isa_8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

God does have the power of life and death and i did not claim that man was born spiritually dead.

We are born with a fallen nature and every human (except Christ) has sinned. One sin = death.

Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

We need to be delieved from this body of death and praise God Jesus has done all to save us. We can't do it ourselves.

Delieverance doesn't mean saving the flesh or making the flesh good. The answer is found in Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Die to the flesh that is evil.

Baptism is about being born again and we are told to die daily. The flesh will continue to tempt us and desire to rule in us but we are told to die to the flesh and let the Spirit live in us. Walk in the Spirit.... Rom 8

Hi i just wanted to say God holds the power of life and death in the unbeliever to 😊

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Since that's exactly what you are doing, you are a hypocrite.

this is also depraving

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

telling the Truth isn't diverting from the Truth.

Psalms 147:5​

Great is our Lord, ​

and mighty in power; ​

His understanding is infinite! ​

​

the Truth is that any position that claims God doesn't understand anything or that God is ignorant of anything at any time, is clearly wrong.

what do you need if your saved.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Heres a nice song 😊