Declare His name!

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Chopper

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I'm curios why there are so many here who say "Lord" in place of His name instead of doing as we are told to do.
Do you not know His name?

Psa 22:22 I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee

Psa 102:21 To declare the name of YHWH in Zion, and his praise in Jerusalem;

Isa_12:4 And in that day shall ye say, Praise YHWH, call upon his name, declare his doings among the people, make mention that his name is exalted.

Zec 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, YHWH is my Elohim.

Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of YHWH shall be saved.

Heb 2:12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the assembly will I sing praise unto thee.
 

GuessWho

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The reason why some people say Lord instead of YHWH is because the christians identified Jesus of Nazareth (Lord) with YHWH.
 

Blain

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I call him Lord a lot because that is what he is but I also call him Jesus, I call him father and sometimes I give him loving nicknames like precious and adored one. I love Jehovah because for some reason that one just sticks out to me but I adress him as a title with that one not name idk why
 

Chopper

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Problem is, the name Jesus is NOT YHWH, or Yahuah (sounds like Yahuwah).
Jesus is NOT Yahushua, the real Son of Yah.

Jesus is an incorrect transliteration of the Hebrew name of the Son of Yahuah.
That is a transliteration of a Greek name, and not a Hebrew name, and we all know that our ha'Mashiah was Jewish and has a Hebrew name.
 

GuessWho

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I did not say the name Jesus was YWHW. I said that the early christianity identified Jesus Christ, the Lord, with YHWH (God) and that's why they call God (YHWH), Lord.
 

GuessWho

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In the byzantin icon of Jesus Christ, for example, it is written "I Am" inside the nimbus of Jesus.
 

maxwel

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I'm not a father, but one day I hope to be.

When I have children, they will be able to call on me, anytime,
and I will hear them, and I will answer them.

My children might call me "father".
They might call me "dad".
They might call me "daddy".
They might call me "papa"
They might call me "pa".
They might call me "pappy"
They might call me "pops".
We might vacation in Mexico, and there they might call me "padre".
They might call me "tatay" in the Philippines, or "appa" in Korea.
They might even make up a nickname for me, something special they use just for me.

Whatever my children call me, I know their voices, and I'll hear.
Whatever my children call me, I love my children, and I'll answer.
 
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LORD, remember me when you come into your kingdom<---thief on the cross
I tell you today you will be with me in paradise<----response by Jesus to the above thief and his statement.
 

Hizikyah

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Isayah 42:8, "I am Yahweh, that is MY NAME; and My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."

Yahchanan (John) 17:6, "I have manifested Your Name to the men that You gave Me out of the world. They were yours, and You gave them to Me; and they have kept Your word."

Yahchanan (John) 5:43, "I have come in My Father's Name, but you do not follow Me. Let another come in his own name; him you will follow."

Yeremyah 23:26-27, "How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Yes, they are prophets of the deceit of their own minds plan and scheme, to cause My people to forget My Name through their dreams, which they tell every man to his neighbor, just as their fathers have forgotten My Name for Baal."

Micahyah (Micah) 4:5, "For all people walk each in the name of his god, but we will walk in the Name of Yahweh our Father forever and ever."
 

Chopper

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The following quote from Wikipedia is why I ask about the title "Lord" instead of saying Master, or Adon;
Baal, also rendered Baʿal (Biblical Hebrew בַּעַל, pronounced [ˈbaʕal]), is a North-West Semitic title and honorific meaning "master" or "lord"[SUP][1][/SUP] that is used for various gods who were patrons of cities in the Levant and Asia Minor, cognate to Akkadian Bēlu. A Baalist or Baalite means a worshipper of Baal.
"Baal" may refer to any god and even to human officials. In some texts it is used for Hadad, a god of thunderstorms, fertility and agriculture, and the lord of Heaven. Since only priests were allowed to utter his divine name, Hadad, Ba‛al was commonly used. Nevertheless, few if any biblical uses of "Baal" refer to Hadad, the lord over the assembly of gods on the holy mount of Heaven; most refer to a variety of local spirit-deities worshiped as cult images, each called baal and regarded in the Hebrew Bible in that context as a false god.
To take this a step farther we also see a reference to this very thing here:
Jer 23:27 Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.

And here:
Rom 2:24 For the name of YHWH is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I'm not a father, but one day I hope to be.

When I have children, they will be able to call on me, anytime,
and I will hear them, and I will answer them.

My children might call me "father".
They might call me "dad".
They might call me "daddy".
They might call me "papa"
They might call me "pa".
They might call me "pappy"
They might call me "pops".
We might vacation in Mexico, and there they might call me "padre".
They might call me "tatay" in the Philippines, or "appa" in Korea.
They might even make up a nickname for me, something special they use just for me.

Whatever my children call me, I know their voices, and I'll hear.
Whatever my children call me, I love my children, and I'll answer.

Abba is another good one,, That is what the father told us to call him..


Romans 8:15
For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.”
 
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eternally-gratefull

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as for Gods hebrew name.

He is neither hebrew or greek, he was before either was spoken. So if we want to make ourselves look holy and religious, call him yhwh, If we want to look like an adopted son who loves his dad Call him father (abba), or lord, or teacher, or master, or creator, or whatever title you wish.
 

Chopper

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This has nothing to do with how we want to make ourselves look, this has to do with what He says about His name, and the fact that there are those trying to hide it.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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This has nothing to do with how we want to make ourselves look, this has to do with what He says about His name, and the fact that there are those trying to hide it.

who is trying to hide it?

those who call him lord, and abba, and do not call him yhwh? (I do not speak hebrew, why would I call him a hebrew name?)

that is legalism my friend, and no other reason to do it than to puff yourself up.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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God actually has many names,

Jehovah, Elohim, Adoni, counselor, savior, beloved, father, savior, the justifer, the creator, I am (literally I I AM, or I am who I am) ruler, king of kings, lord of lords, son of man, son of God,

I can go on and on, I am sure I have just touched the tip of the iceberg on the titles and names given to God,
 

Hizikyah

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that is legalism my friend, and no other reason to do it than to puff yourself up.
WOW...

So actually reading Scripture and..... listening to it is legalism?

Micahyah (Micah) 4:5, "For all people walk each in the name of his god (430 - elohim), but we will walk in the Name of Yahweh (3068 - Yhvh) our Father forever and ever."

Revelation 3:12, "He who overcomes, I will make a pillar in The House of My Father, and he will never go out of it. And I will write upon him the Name of My Father, and the Name of the New Yerusalem which comes down out of heaven from My Father, newly named."

Psalm 103:1, "Bless You Yahweh, O our souls! And all that is within us bless Your holy Name!"

Psalm 105:1, "Give thanks to Yahweh! Call upon His Name! Make known what He has done among the nations!"

Isayah 47:4, "Our Redeemer, Yahweh of hosts is His Name, the Holy One of Israyl!"

Yeremyah 32:18, "Who shows lovingkindness to thousands, and recompenses the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them--the Great, the Mighty Father! Yahweh of hosts is His Name!"

Psalm 135:13, "Your Name, O Yahweh, endures forever! Your memorial, O Yahweh, is for all generations!"

Psalm 111:9, "You sent redemption to Your people; You have commanded Your covenant forever. Holy and Reverend is Your Name."

Yeremyah 33:2, "This is what Yahweh says Who made the earth, Yahweh Who formed it to establish it--Yahweh is His Name:"


Isayah 5:20, "Woe to those who call evil righteous, and righteous evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
 
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eternally-gratefull

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WOW...

So actually reading Scripture and..... listening to it is legalism?

Micahyah (Micah) 4:5, "For all people walk each in the name of his god (430 - elohim), but we will walk in the Name of Yahweh (3068 - Yhvh) our Father forever and ever."

Revelation 3:12, "He who overcomes, I will make a pillar in The House of My Father, and he will never go out of it. And I will write upon him the Name of My Father, and the Name of the New Yerusalem which comes down out of heaven from My Father, newly named."

Psalm 103:1, "Bless You Yahweh, O our souls! And all that is within us bless Your holy Name!"

Psalm 105:1, "Give thanks to Yahweh! Call upon His Name! Make known what He has done among the nations!"

Isayah 47:4, "Our Redeemer, Yahweh of hosts is His Name, the Holy One of Israyl!"

Yeremyah 32:18, "Who shows lovingkindness to thousands, and recompenses the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them--the Great, the Mighty Father! Yahweh of hosts is His Name!"

Psalm 135:13, "Your Name, O Yahweh, endures forever! Your memorial, O Yahweh, is for all generations!"

Psalm 111:9, "You sent redemption to Your people; You have commanded Your covenant forever. Holy and Reverend is Your Name."

Yeremyah 33:2, "This is what Yahweh says Who made the earth, Yahweh Who formed it to establish it--Yahweh is His Name:"


Isayah 5:20, "Woe to those who call evil righteous, and righteous evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

unless you post every word in hebrew, just writing a name in hebrew to be honest, is offensive, phariseeic, and makes me gag (I am sure it makes God Gag also)

either write everything in hebrew, or write everything in english, or write it in greek. I do not care (I Know God does not also)

otherwise you come across as puffing yourself up as to how much better you are than everyone else. which is sickening.
 

Hizikyah

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unless you post every word in hebrew, just writing a name in hebrew to be honest, is offensive, phariseeic, and makes me gag (I am sure it makes God Gag also)

either write everything in hebrew, or write everything in english, or write it in greek. I do not care (I Know God does not also)

otherwise you come across as puffing yourself up as to how much better you are than everyone else. which is sickening.
You seem very hostile when the Name of the Creator is promoted, this should not be so...
 

Hizikyah

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Psalm 116:13, "We will take the cup of salvation, and we will call upon Your Name, O Yahweh."

Malakyah 2:2, "If you will not hear, if you will not take this to heart--to give glory to My Name, says Yahweh of hosts: I will send a curse upon you! I will curse your blessings; yes, I have cursed them already, because you do not take this to heart."

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Revelation 13:6, "And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against Yahweh, to blaspheme His Name..."

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THE PROHIBITION OF USE OF THE NAMES OF GOD.
The prohibition applies both to the pronunciation of the name of God and its committal to writing, apart from its use in sacred writings. The prohibition against the pronunciation of the name of God applies only to the Tetragrammaton, which could be pronounced by the high priest only once a year on the Day of Atonement in the Holy of Holies (cf. Mishnah Yoma 6:2), and in the Temple by the priests when they recited the Priestly Blessings (Sot. 7:6; see also Ch. Albeck (ed.), Seder Nashim (1954), 387). As the Talmud expresses it: "Not as I am written am I pronounced. I am written yod he vav he, and I am pronounced alef dalet" (nun yod, i.e., Adonai; Kid. 71a).