Define SIN

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Ella85

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I have always thought of sin being any thought or action that is against "The Ten Commandments"
You are right, although there are other ways in which we can sin that is not written in the ten commandments, although it is mentioned in the bible as a "command"
 
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Just like Adam we choose to sin! I don't really like the theological term "Sin Nature". Do we need a "Sin Nature" to sin? Nope! Adam did not have a "Sin Nature" yet he still sinned! The term "Sin Nature" makes it sound like sin is natural thing to do. I would propose that sin is the most unnatural thing we do! Yes, everyone is going to sin. But again, it is most unnatural thing we do!

Example: If was to hook you up to a lie detector and asked you to lie your body would tell the lie detector your lying. But if you told the truth the lie detector would not make changes. If lying or sinning was natural your body would not react. But it does because we have the image of God in us. Maybe tainted by sin. Sin is not natural to commit without our body responding.
 
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It says in the beginning, "Let make man in our own image, our own likeness."; and so we are suppose to be like how they are in heaven, in total agreement with the will of God, like they are in Heaven. But when we sin, we are going against His will. its says that God is very compassionate, and if we are not compassionate, we are going against what He want us to be, just like Him. So in this realm we are gods that isn't compassionate as the God of the Heavenly kingdom. We are suppose to be representing the Heavenly Father, and our desires suppose be what He desires, but we desires darkness rather than desiring the Light, and that is what sin is, going against what God has intended for us to be.
 
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Sin has fallen on those who don't believe. Those who truly have faith and trust in Christ to save them are not charged with sin as Christ's blood has paid completely for their sins. So the definition of sin is unbelief.......

John 16:8-9
And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: 9concerning sin, because they do not believe in me;

Pulpit Commentary


"The essence of all sin is unbelief, a refusal to surrender heart and will to the Divine will and authority, though the world generally had taken different views of it: supposing "sin" to be disobedience to some particular class of duties, or the neglect of certain specific ceremonial. Christ declares that the Spirit which has always been striving with men to bring them into reconciliation with God, will now convict the world that its sinful tendencies and principles have reached their highest and most willful expression in unbelief εἰς ἐμέ, towards me."
 
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Sin is denying the will of God, and desiring our will to overcome God's will.
 

mystdancer50

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Why did God choose to have a tree in the garden that they were able to eat from, and knew it would lead them to sin?
I believe that obedience without choice is not obedience at all. The same with love. So, there was a choice in the garden, to obey and trust God or to listen to the voice of another. We have the same choice every day. We choose Christ, who first chose us, and we love God, who first loved us. Or, we don't. :) Sin is rebellion/disobedience. God sets boundaries and we choose to stay in them or not. Thankfully, God is merciful and grants us amazing grace, so though we fall, we have the hope that comes from repentance and surrendering to God.

I think one of the biggest lies that satan tells people today is that one is missing out if they follow God's will and plan. Look how much fun the drunkards have and the promiscuous have and look at how far the dishonest get and the thieves get and why tithe when you can use that money elsewhere and it's only a little white lie and no one will ever know and such things as that. The truth is, when you look at what God asks of us, it truly isn't a horrible life. It's a life lived under self-control (Holy Spirit makes it possible) with healthy relationships and boundaries and amazing blessings. Not a horrible life at all. Yet, for some reason, the greatest lie that satan gives us is, "Surely there is something else, something more, and God just wants to keep you from it."

What Jesus wants to keep us from is destruction and death and pain and sorrow.
 

john832

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Isn't it easier to just read the scripture?

What is sin?

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
 
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Isn't it easier to just read the scripture?

What is sin?

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
And whatever the law says it says to those under it, Rom 3:19.

Christians are not under the law (Rom 8:2, Rom 10:4, Gal 3:25, Gal 5:18, 1Tim 1:9).
Therefore we cannot be charged with sin/transgression of the law.

Rom 8:33
Who shall lay ANY THING (this includes sin) to the charge of God's elect?
 

john832

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And whatever the law says it says to those under it, Rom 3:19.

Christians are not under the law (Rom 8:2, Rom 10:4, Gal 3:25, Gal 5:18, 1Tim 1:9).
Therefore we cannot be charged with sin/transgression of the law.

Rom 8:33
Who shall lay ANY THING (this includes sin) to the charge of God's elect?
Interesting, the Apostle John says that sin is the transgression of the Law and that draws an attack? You are attacking the Apostle John's writings not me.
 
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How did Jesus define sin?

In regard to sin, because people do not believe in me John 16:9
 

john832

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Paul defined sin as being defined by the Law...

Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
 
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Paul defined sin as being defined by the Law...

Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
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Is Jesus wrong?

In regard to sin because people do not believe in me John 16:9
 

john832

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Is Jesus wrong?

In regard to sin because people do not believe in me John 16:9
Interesting that you quote Christ here, how about quoting this one...

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
 
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And people just don't believe what Paul and John wrote.
lol, I notice you haven't confirmed Jesus was correct in what he stated in John 16:9.

I thought you believed Jesus words superceeded everything!
 
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Interesting that you quote Christ here, how about quoting this one...

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
You still cannot bring yourself to agree with Christ's words in John 16:9
 

john832

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You still cannot bring yourself to agree with Christ's words in John 16:9
Sure I do, I agree with that passage and I also agree with the rest of Christ's teachings. How do you feel about Mat 19:17?

You agree with that, do you?
 
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Sure I do, I agree with that passage and I also agree with the rest of Christ's teachings. How do you feel about Mat 19:17?

You agree with that, do you?
I'm glad you agree with Christ's definition of sin, because people do not believe in him.

Glad you mentioned Matt19:17. The man had obeyed the literal letter of the commandments, but it was not enough was it, if you read on
 

john832

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I'm glad you agree with Christ's definition of sin, because people do not believe in him.

Glad you mentioned Matt19:17. The man had obeyed the literal letter of the commandments, but it was not enough was it, if you read on
So, that tells you NOT to keep the Commandments? Keeping the Commandments is necessary but if that is all one does, he is an unprofitable servant...

Luk 17:9 Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not.
Luk 17:10 So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.

Notice the bolded part? Does Christ command us to keep the Commandments?

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
 
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So, that tells you NOT to keep the Commandments? Keeping the Commandments is necessary but if that is all one does, he is an unprofitable servant...

Luk 17:9 Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not.
Luk 17:10 So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.

Notice the bolded part? Does Christ command us to keep the Commandments?

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
You take random verses without the full picture. It was not enough was it that the man had obeyed the literal commands, therefore he was not going to inherit eternal life by keeping them, so you need to think on that before you keep posting your verse continually