Desiring married women

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BonnieClaire

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There's something called NOFAP which is restraining from sex or masturbation for purposes. Mine aint sex its masturbation which is the problem. Porn is another problem.

A guy called Phil Hellmuth won the WSOP main event back in 1989 say they had no sex or masturbation leading up to winning the main event. He even turned down a beautiful woman for sex. He said doing this gave him the edge and allowed him to win the wsop main event.

Now he doesn't give God the glory for his victories. If I won something like that God deserves the glory. He gives you the ability to work out percentages. He gives you the ability to read facial cues. He even determines when you get your AK in against 77 preflop whether your going to win that hand. its about a 45% chance your going to win with AK but God determines whether a K or A will hit and hold against 77.

I don't play poker to win money. I use money to make friends though. I also use it to help the poor. I want to give loans and have done in the past if people ask. If I get married and have children I want to leave a inhertience to them and their children. I prayed about God giving me a wife today.

I like going to nightclubs. Bouncers often ask why I am there. Witches somehow ask if i'm a christian. One in particular was asking if im judas or Jesus. I said neither Jesus is God and Judas died years ago.

Avoid fornication, find yourself wife...

1 Corinthians 7:2
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. ~KJV



It is better to marry than to burn...

1 Corinthians 7:9
9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn. ~KJV
 

Mii

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Honestly dude I have no idea what to say to this. Yet somehow I typed a LONG post. Apologies in advance but you remind me of a different time in my life that I haven't thought about in a while. Not that specific time period at least.

NOFAP isn't a terrible website, if it works for you then awesome. Personally I find it gross and something of a trigger.

Being on there when you are "struggling" would be the last thing I'd want to do at this point. A time where you aren't feeling "tension" and copy/pasting posts that would be useful and productive for you when you are "struggling" isn't a bad idea to read offline in those moments.

The ones that inspire you and encourage you.

I know there are Christians and non-Christians alike on that forum but you have to expect some saboteurs as well. People that are legit posting to just trip people up. I read about a fetish when I found that site that I seriously regret reading about and I disagree with the poster for publicly posting about it. I knew about it but it brings in the occult in an intentional way and any young person reading that would then know what that was (highly doubt most would know) or be curious.

There's almost always something more and let's say you were into something unusual, you wouldn't go being explicit about it...and yet that stuff happens there from what I've seen. It makes sense to just ask if someone has any experience with something and to be implicit and receive input from people that actually have come out on the other side of a particular struggle. Rather than to struggle together and both fall into a pit if that makes sense.


So like I said, if browsing when you feel strong helps you. Go for it. There's nothing wrong with the 40 day challenge. Have you tried that?


Porn can produce a lot of really weird side effects like attractions that if you cut it out, you may find that it stops entirely...or severely minimizes. I know a LOT about this topic because while I know that "it's bad" the psychology of "why" it's SO bad (worse than fornication for your body/brain at least) is something I'm gifted with understanding. I don't mean you stop having a libido. I mean it goes back to baseline...as in not twisted by obvious taboo or orientations.

IRL if someone is legitimately taking "actionable" steps (beyond their thought life) toward adultery with another man's wife. To cuckold them...I cut off contact. The thought life can be managed and worked through and hey maybe the Lord even straight up delivers you overnight from it (it happens) but actions cannot be undone.


Yes there are many lonely dissatisfied women out there. As a Christian man your job is to be mindful of that and honorable to their weaknesses. If there's a woman you feel is hitting on you...shut it down. Brutally if she isn't getting the hint. Brutal to me is "where is your husband." or "I don't talk to married women, I'm sorry." Or even that you find it inappropriate and you can't. You don't need to tell them that you'd really love to and charm them and THEN shut it down...that's cruel. Just be honest if you have to. If you can't get to know elders of the church and let them know about this and to help you through these encounters you are in the wrong church. If you have access but choose not to, that's another story.

Shutting down someone hard is going to hurt their feelings but being blunt up front isn't wrong scripturally as far as I can tell. Paul was very blunt at times from my reading. It isn't appropriate for you to be around that. If you can't redirect your sexuality toward something else like working out, etc. at least then don't go to that church.


God has met me within my tension many times. There's always a way out of temptation (First Corinthians 10:13). I know some people talk about freedom from lust or whatever but I've prayed enough to believe that's not what God has for me at this time...it's about self-control and it has been a VERY long process and I do see a lot of things that were so strong before be almost nothing at this point. No interest, no desire except for to be married to one woman for the rest of my life. Even the fantasies are boring at this point because God isn't in that. Not to say I don't still appreciate the female form but it costs SO much now and I feel almost broke.

For me drinking leads to PMO. Idk how it doesn't for you, but maybe you're different from most people.

but I'm not telling the full story online. There's more and I hope I'm not presenting a false front by sharing bits and pieces.

Avoid the club or the bar or wherever it is you go. What is it about that scene that you like...playing with fire?
That can make a person feel powerful, but the energy of a bunch of non-believers around you who couldn't care less about whether you PMO all the time doesn't strengthen your walk. Quite the opposite actually.

It's true that it "can" provide such a contrast that it makes it obvious that you don't belong there and you learn "the hard way" what not to do...but there is a large price tag to that approach. God is not mocked, you reap what you sow.

I don't say that as a "holier than thou" response. Just that I see it work in my own life. Might take until you're 30 or 40 but it's a sure thing. Even in people that aren't Christians...they have regrets. Regret is a terrible thing to carry around. I think for believers it can fade and become a scar but that scar can still bring up painful memories from time to time.


Dabbling is risky. Sounds like that's what you are doing. I get it. I've done that. Not sexually (except in my thoughts & dreams) but with equally damning things. So if you'd like to talk about it further just tell me and I'll PM you if I still can. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are in a "rough patch" in your walk with God and in a borderline state of rebellion and it is causing people on here to question whether you are a believer or not. That's understandable. The ice "can" get too thin man and you can fall in over your head and drown.

Sounds like you need to at least get to more stable ground. Cut out porn as much as you are able or consider what is stopping you from doing so.
 

NOV25

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This is a sin of mine. Desiring women that are married. I go out to nightclubs and don't lust over anyone really there even though people are kissing me and what not. I like to tease them i dunno why. I come across as innocent according to the bouncers and they somewhat like me.

I went to a church thing the other day and there's this woman there whos friendly with me. A bit overly friendly. I think she knows that I like her but i try not to let it show. Other blokes in that church have commented that I come for the woman. When she was talking to me the pastor comes stands to us. This has happened at three different churches all with women talking to me and are married or about to be married. My mate said to me the girls like you and they stay away from him because hes known to be a bit of player flirt. I've been put into some situations where the husband suppose to meet me but instead the wife is home alone and she invites me in. Now I didn't go in but its just strange. Later I fall into sin thinking about that.

How do I overcome this? I dunno if i wanna go to that church. Not only is there women there im lustful for or they lustful for me i dont really know but theres homosexuals there too. I had one in a past church want me to give him a back rub and i move away from him and he fell asleep on the couch. I feel i sin less having a couple beers singing a few songs at a pub even with women walking around at certain places than sitting alone at home on the internet or even going to church. Don't go home and think sexual thoughts over any girls in the nightclubs or pubs even if i kiss them.
Keep praying the Lord grant you Godly sorrow which causes repentance and faith. Till then follow the commands of the bible the best you can.
 

Evmur

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This is a sin of mine. Desiring women that are married. I go out to nightclubs and don't lust over anyone really there even though people are kissing me and what not. I like to tease them i dunno why. I come across as innocent according to the bouncers and they somewhat like me.

I went to a church thing the other day and there's this woman there whos friendly with me. A bit overly friendly. I think she knows that I like her but i try not to let it show. Other blokes in that church have commented that I come for the woman. When she was talking to me the pastor comes stands to us. This has happened at three different churches all with women talking to me and are married or about to be married. My mate said to me the girls like you and they stay away from him because hes known to be a bit of player flirt. I've been put into some situations where the husband suppose to meet me but instead the wife is home alone and she invites me in. Now I didn't go in but its just strange. Later I fall into sin thinking about that.

How do I overcome this? I dunno if i wanna go to that church. Not only is there women there im lustful for or they lustful for me i dont really know but theres homosexuals there too. I had one in a past church want me to give him a back rub and i move away from him and he fell asleep on the couch. I feel i sin less having a couple beers singing a few songs at a pub even with women walking around at certain places than sitting alone at home on the internet or even going to church. Don't go home and think sexual thoughts over any girls in the nightclubs or pubs even if i kiss them.
how old are you? 13?
 

CS1

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This is a sin of mine. Desiring women that are married. I go out to nightclubs and don't lust over anyone really there even though people are kissing me and what not. I like to tease them i dunno why. I come across as innocent according to the bouncers and they somewhat like me.

I went to a church thing the other day and there's this woman there whos friendly with me. A bit overly friendly. I think she knows that I like her but i try not to let it show. Other blokes in that church have commented that I come for the woman. When she was talking to me the pastor comes stands to us. This has happened at three different churches all with women talking to me and are married or about to be married. My mate said to me the girls like you and they stay away from him because hes known to be a bit of player flirt. I've been put into some situations where the husband suppose to meet me but instead the wife is home alone and she invites me in. Now I didn't go in but its just strange. Later I fall into sin thinking about that.

How do I overcome this? I dunno if i wanna go to that church. Not only is there women there im lustful for or they lustful for me i dont really know but theres homosexuals there too. I had one in a past church want me to give him a back rub and i move away from him and he fell asleep on the couch. I feel i sin less having a couple beers singing a few songs at a pub even with women walking around at certain places than sitting alone at home on the internet or even going to church. Don't go home and think sexual thoughts over any girls in the nightclubs or pubs even if i kiss them.
You need to get saved. And you need to know you are playing with fire I have verses for you in Proverbs 6, that speak to those who like to be with married women and other things

A worthless person, a wicked man,
Walks with a perverse mouth;

13 He winks with his eyes,
He shuffles his feet,

He points with his fingers;
14 Perversity is in his heart,
He devises evil continually,
He sows discord.
15 Therefore his calamity shall come suddenly;
Suddenly he shall be broken without remedy.


16 These six things the LORD hates,
Yes, seven are an abomination to Him
:
17 A proud look,
A lying tongue,
Hands that shed innocent blood,

18 A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that are swift in running to evil,

19 A false witness who speaks lies,
And one who sows discord among brethren.


Then later in the chapter, it says this:

27 Can a man take fire to his bosom,
And his clothes not be burned?
28 Can one walk on hot coals,
And his feet not be seared?
29 So is he who goes in to his neighbor’s wife;

Whoever touches her shall not be innocent.

30 People do not despise a thief
If he steals to satisfy himself when he is starving.

31 Yet when he is found, he must restore sevenfold;
He may have to give up all the substance of his house.
32 Whoever commits adultery with a woman lacks understanding;
He who does so destroys his own soul.

33 Wounds and dishonor he will get,
And his reproach will not be wiped away.

34 For jealousy is a husband’s fury;
Therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance.

35 He will accept no recompense,
Nor will he be appeased though you give many gifts.



You are playing with your life messing with married women. If you do not seek godly counsel you will be overtaken by this and can have your life taken. PlAY TIME IS OVER.