Greetings,
Since I have been on CC BDF I have noticed some hold a doctrine that Jesus teachings are either done away post resurrection/ascension or Jesus teachings are for Jews only and Paul's teachings are for Gentiles. I disagree with this and believe Jesus teachings are not done away and are for all people of every nation. I wanted to start a topic on this and see different views and different verses so I may know the truth. As I stated I have my view and believe it is correct.
I have two starting points:
1. While Jesus may had started in Israel, He sent all His chosen disciples to all the nations in the world:
Acts 1:6-8, " 6 So when they had come together, they asked him, “Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”
2. That Jesus words while on earth in the flesh are the true doctrine to follow and still valid:
John 14:23-26, " 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. 25 These things have I spoken unto you, being [yet] present with you. 26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My words (teachings) will not pass away.”
Jesus and Paul preached the same Gospel, and why would people think they did not.
Jesus taught the 2 greatest commandments love God, and love people, and Paul taught the same.
The Bible says that Jesus preached the Gospel, and Paul did the same.
Jesus preached have faith, confession of Him, and repent of sins, and Paul taught the same.
Jesus told the rich man that in order to have salvation is to obey the commandments that have to do with loving people, for love is the fulfilling of the law, and told him to sell all his things that were not a necessity and give to the poor for that is love, and Paul taught the same by saying we do not void out the law through faith, but we establish the law, which the 10 commandments are love towards God and people the 2 greatest laws that a Christians obeys, and said if a person does not have charity then they are nothing, and anybody that covets after money has erred from the faith, for the love of money is the root of all evil because it neglects the poor and needy which lacks love.
Paul said he did not receive the revelation of Jesus from man, but from Jesus, for it was Jesus that gave Paul all his teachings to teach, so why would Paul say something different than Jesus when he said that all his teachings come from Jesus.
If Paul addressed something that people think Jesus did not address while on earth does not mean they are not preaching the same, and Paul received all his teachings from Jesus so it would be covered there, but Jesus and Paul preached the same.
Paul, Peter, and the other writers would cover things that Jesus did not, or go in to more detail, and knowledge, for Jesus came to preach the Gospel and not to get in to every aspect of the future although He did tell us the future, and other things.
Jesus covered it and they went in to more detail, and knowledge about it, and it is all the same.
Did the Old Testament writers cover things that Moses did not write about, of course they did for they went in to more detail, and knowledge, but Moses still knew the future but he was not given to write every aspect of it like the future writers.
Moses taught wisdom, but the later writers went in to more detail about it like Psalms, and Proverbs, and Ecclesiastes, and the fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, which it is important so they went in to more detail, and knowledge about it.
Jesus taught have faith and Paul went in to more detail about it.
Jesus taught love and Paul went in to more detail about it.
Paul went in to more detail about what Jesus taught, but Jesus still covered it all, and it is still the same teachings, and all from Jesus, so Jesus went in to more detail about it by Paul.
Paul said if anybody preaches another Gospel let them be accursed, and this is the Gospel that Jesus taught.
Paul said he did not want to know anything among the saints but Jesus and Him crucified.
Jesus preached the Gospel, have faith, confess Him, repent of sins, obey the 2 greatest commandments love God, and love people, and allow the Spirit to lead you to be Christlike, and Paul preached the same.
I do not understand how they can be contradictory.
Is it because Paul said we are saved by faith, and not by works, but Jesus taught the same thing, and in the Old Testament it says our righteousness is as filthy rags, so why would Jesus teach works to be saved.
There is nothing we can do to be saved but have faith, for when we first confess Christ we do it in the flesh before we receive the Spirit so none of our works while in flesh means anything, and then when we receive the Spirit we are in a saved condition, and do the works of God and not of the flesh.
Which these works are works of love towards people, which Paul said love works no ill towards their neighbor, therefore love is the fulfilling of the law, and charity, love in action, is greater than faith.
I do not know that much about it what people say but Jesus and Paul are not contradictory.
Jesus told the Jews to keep things of the Old Testament for when He was on earth the Jews were still under the Old Testament and needed to obey it.
But Jesus preached the Gospel, and the New Testament, while on earth, and when He died the Jews would have to accept Him, and go by the New Testament.
That does not even make sense that Jesus' teachings are done away when He is God, and His teachings are not done away with.
Also Jesus' said His words shall never pass away.
Also Jesus is the founder of the New Testament, the chief cornerstone of the Church, and the head of the Church above Paul.
Every single saint is built upon Jesus, and Peter is built after Jesus upon that building, which is why Jesus said upon this rock I will build my Church, but Jesus is the foundation and all the Church is built upon Him.
Also Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith.
It does not even make sense for then they are saying that Paul's words is above Jesus' words, if they say some of Jesus' words do not apply and Paul's words apply, and Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, Lord and Savior, Creator of all things, and all the word of God was given by Him for He is God.
I would not even want to make such a statement, and would be scared to do it.
Glory to Jesus, not glory to Paul, and Paul said that there are divisions among some saints for some say I am of Paul, and some say I am of Apollos, and some say I am of Cephas, and I of Christ.
But Paul said you are only of Christ and no one else.