Did Jesus drink alcohol?

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JohnDB

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He did refuse it.

All speculations aside, nothing in Scripture suggests Jesus took a Nazarite vow.
It's not the End of The World if you choose to not believe what I'm telling you.

But theologically it fits with the cessation of going to church on Saturdays.

It's a very minor point in all reality but one I found interesting....and extremely poignant with predictions, timing, and all the rest.
 
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Ecclesiastes 9:7
Go, eat your bread with joy, and drink your wine with a merry heart, for God has already approved what you do.

Psalm 104:14-15
You cause the grass to grow for the livestock and plants for man to cultivate, that he may bring forth food from the earth and wine to gladden the heart of man, oil to make his face shine and bread to strengthen man's heart.

Genesis 27:28
May God give you of the dew of heaven and of the fatness of the earth and plenty of grain and wine.
 

Magenta

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It's not the End of The World if you choose to not believe what I'm telling you.

But theologically it fits with the cessation of going to church on Saturdays.

It's a very minor point in all reality but one I found interesting....and extremely poignant with predictions, timing, and all the rest.
I am not going to ask how it all ties in with Sabbath rest :LOL:

But I will say that Jesus is my Sabbath rest :D

And honestly, Jesus in a glorified body being bald never occurred to me.

Please, God, expunge this image from my brain :censored::giggle:
 

JohnDB

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I am not going to ask how it all ties in with Sabbath rest :LOL:

But I will say that Jesus is my Sabbath rest :D
Oh come on!
It's another nice study.

I've been at this a loooong time trying to understand what and why of various things. I know that much of what I've learned hasn't been taught (if it ever was) in centuries by anyone.

And I ask a LOT of questions and then find the answers.

Like what does it mean that Jesus was "Lord of the Sabbath ".
 

JohnDB

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I am not going to ask how it all ties in with Sabbath rest :LOL:

But I will say that Jesus is my Sabbath rest :D

And honestly, Jesus in a glorified body being bald never occurred to me.

Please, God, expunge this image from my brain :censored::giggle:
Isaiah 53:2
He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
 

JohnDB

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And all of this fussing in this thread is making me want to act like a Child of Biden's....

But I gotta run to the store.

By then all I'll want is a drink.
 

posthuman

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I think we are supposed to ascertain authorial intent when we read scripture.

If we read from documents from the time and older, that they had been telling people not to drink the water but a little wine instead then we could know that Paul's instructions to Timothy were common knowledge.

Then we might naturally ask "but if it was so common why would Timothy need Paul to tell him?"

And maybe (conjecture that it might be, yet nevertheless based on the most logical reason) it was because Timothy needed "a green light" because he was committed to being a teetotaler, with total abstinence and this was probably common among NT saints.

As it is today.
maybe Timothy was a drunkard before he was saved.
there's nothing in the scripture that commands teetotaling, so i have to wonder why Timothy had to be urged by Paul like this.
 

posthuman

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Like what does it mean that Jesus was "Lord of the Sabbath ".
isn't that an easy one?

He is not beholden to the sabbath; the sabbath is beholden to Him


in the context He says this He gives two examples of the letter of the law being broken while the ones doing so not being accountable to it: David eating shewbread, priests working in the temple on sabbath. those are illustrations of His meaning
 

Melach

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That is because in those days, they sometimes drank "new wine," that is wine that has not yet fermited, no alcohol, thus "fruit juice."
not true either.
acts 2:13
Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

who would mock someone for being full of grape juice? especially in the context of speaking in tongues there. clearly they were mocking saying you guys are drunk!

why cant people just understand wine is wine? juice is juice. seriously.
 
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Ecclesiastes 9:7
Go, eat your bread with joy, and drink your wine with a merry heart, for God has already approved what you do.

Psalm 104:14-15
You cause the grass to grow for the livestock and plants for man to cultivate, that he may bring forth food from the earth and wine to gladden the heart of man, oil to make his face shine and bread to strengthen man's heart.

Genesis 27:28
May God give you of the dew of heaven and of the fatness of the earth and plenty of grain and wine.
Yes.

Some of us may prefer to think any reference of wine is too that of non-alcoholic juice.

We may prefer that however, we cannot then be said to be biblically correct.