Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?
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To be "under the Law" would mean that the Old Covenant would remain in full force, including the temple, the Levitical priesthood, and all the sacrifices and offerings. Which would nullify the finished work of Christ.
But the New Covenant has made the majority of the laws under the Old Covenant null and void ( excepting the Ten Commandments and a few others). They have been incorporated into the Law of Christ under the New Covenant. But they must be obeyed by the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit.
But the New Covenant has made the majority of the laws under the Old Covenant null and void ( excepting the Ten Commandments and a few others). They have been incorporated into the Law of Christ under the New Covenant. But they must be obeyed by the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit.
8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who
loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law.
9 The commandments, "Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not covet," and
whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself."
10 Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
Rom 13
37 Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'
40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
Matt 22
13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you
alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,
14 having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed
to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.
15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing
over them by the cross.
16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival,
a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
Col 2
We are called to love our neighbour which fulfils the law in Christ, who has cancelled the written code,
making us the temples of the living God.
The whole sacrificial system was to point towards the holiness of God, who could only be approached
through the sacrifice of animals and their blood for the forgiveness of sins and thereby cleansing the
hearts of Gods people.
In Jesus and the cross all the sacrificial system and temple is replaced along with all its rules and ceremonies,
establishing our communion with God in our hearts.
Jesus preached love through following Him, which through the cross has now made possible.
loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law.
9 The commandments, "Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not covet," and
whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself."
10 Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
Rom 13
37 Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'
40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
Matt 22
13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you
alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,
14 having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed
to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.
15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing
over them by the cross.
16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival,
a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
Col 2
We are called to love our neighbour which fulfils the law in Christ, who has cancelled the written code,
making us the temples of the living God.
The whole sacrificial system was to point towards the holiness of God, who could only be approached
through the sacrifice of animals and their blood for the forgiveness of sins and thereby cleansing the
hearts of Gods people.
In Jesus and the cross all the sacrificial system and temple is replaced along with all its rules and ceremonies,
establishing our communion with God in our hearts.
Jesus preached love through following Him, which through the cross has now made possible.
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Jesus and His apostles were “Jews” who had to keep the Law of Moses or be rightly punished according to the Law. His teachings were never contrary to it. So no, Jesus would be disqualified if a sinner, and told none not to keep the Law since the hearers would remain bound to it until death.
The Law held them under it’s authority until physical death. When Jesus died He was freed. He then arose to new life and the fullness of the New Covenant preached to come by the prophets.
Jesus’ hearers had one hope of His success that hinged on Him defeating death and the grave and the binding fear of it which was the power of Satan over them. The Resurrection sealed His victory and the following 40 days among the living confirmed it. The apostles were at last freed to preach the gospel as God planned.
Finishing the work didn’t make a bit of the Law vanish. It remains over men until each dies to sin in Christ and rises to new life in Him. It has no power over Christians.
We ought never insult the Law since it is holy. As already stated earlier, our only obligation to not offend Jews is to avoid those four sins. Circumscision was totally annulled for gentiles. In the place of keeping the Law of flesh we must love God and neighbor.
The Law held them under it’s authority until physical death. When Jesus died He was freed. He then arose to new life and the fullness of the New Covenant preached to come by the prophets.
Jesus’ hearers had one hope of His success that hinged on Him defeating death and the grave and the binding fear of it which was the power of Satan over them. The Resurrection sealed His victory and the following 40 days among the living confirmed it. The apostles were at last freed to preach the gospel as God planned.
Finishing the work didn’t make a bit of the Law vanish. It remains over men until each dies to sin in Christ and rises to new life in Him. It has no power over Christians.
We ought never insult the Law since it is holy. As already stated earlier, our only obligation to not offend Jews is to avoid those four sins. Circumscision was totally annulled for gentiles. In the place of keeping the Law of flesh we must love God and neighbor.
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Listening to Jesus, His teaching, you will find He authorizd even the Jews wh heard Him in His "sermon on the mount" to disobey certain writings of the OT...…….Was He sinning in so doing ? Was He "under the law?"
I am not under the law, but I do obey as best I am given to be able because my new character recognizes all laws tha make up love.
By my new heart I KNOW which laws are merciful and which are not, and I know which laws make up LOV E:
It grievesme to hear self-proclained believers seeking the sin of others while they claim the law is dead…….all contrary to Christ, Yeshua.
God bless all in Jesus, Yeshua, and all who will be, amen.
I am not under the law, but I do obey as best I am given to be able because my new character recognizes all laws tha make up love.
By my new heart I KNOW which laws are merciful and which are not, and I know which laws make up LOV E:
It grievesme to hear self-proclained believers seeking the sin of others while they claim the law is dead…….all contrary to Christ, Yeshua.
God bless all in Jesus, Yeshua, and all who will be, amen.
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There was no provision for man to observe sabbath day until Moses. It was made part of the observances, not for gentiles who had their own laws. So when Jesus died to the Law He died to that seventh day sabbath along with it. That authorized Paul to declare an end of all observances including Passover, among New Covenant believers. Reviving those elements would end faith benefits and resume carnal living appeasing flesh.
2 Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts.
Correct me if i am wrong i want to say what i know i am also stuck here
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
so all the law and prophets are hang on these 2 commandments i see so we don't need to do other commandments except for this two
but looking on verse 37 how to love?
we were taught by christ how to love in this verse
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
therefore if we love the LORD and God we should keep their commandments so all of them? including moses? so in the end we need to keep all of the commandments? including stoning people to their deaths....... ..... ... or ami just jumping to conclusion
Correct me if i am wrong i want to say what i know i am also stuck here
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
so all the law and prophets are hang on these 2 commandments i see so we don't need to do other commandments except for this two
but looking on verse 37 how to love?
we were taught by christ how to love in this verse
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
therefore if we love the LORD and God we should keep their commandments so all of them? including moses? so in the end we need to keep all of the commandments? including stoning people to their deaths....... ..... ... or ami just jumping to conclusion
So jesus and paul contradicted each other? 
I note how little the apostles caught on to. They sure dropped the ball at Calvary. There was no way they could comprehend His fulfillment of the Law until after the cross. Jesus got their attention then, and as He promised the Holy Spirit finished delivering the full gospel. it’s all in the Book.
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That was part of the hidden mystery paul spoke of.
When God opened their eyes (and eventually Paul’s on the way to Damascus) the gospel was known.
But remember, Paul told timothy as a child he had enough knowledge to be saved, I am almost certain Timothy was a child BEFORE Christ died.
The gospel never changed, (grace through faith) the knowledge of what it truly meant did (Christ)
When God opened their eyes (and eventually Paul’s on the way to Damascus) the gospel was known.
But remember, Paul told timothy as a child he had enough knowledge to be saved, I am almost certain Timothy was a child BEFORE Christ died.
The gospel never changed, (grace through faith) the knowledge of what it truly meant did (Christ)
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I think it goes something like this
If your trying to obey commands by self will. You will fail
If your loving God and all others (even your enemy) by nature you will keep the commands.
The cammonds b y themselves did not teach how to obey them, only the end result. Jesus, in this passage, showed the secret to obeying them
If your trying to obey commands by self will. You will fail
If your loving God and all others (even your enemy) by nature you will keep the commands.
The cammonds b y themselves did not teach how to obey them, only the end result. Jesus, in this passage, showed the secret to obeying them
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The old was never given to save. As paul said in galations, It was given to prove to us we need saved. Ie, expose our sin. So we would seek what God would do to save them, or for us, seek christ who came.
So yes it was a better, because that covenant actually saved people
But salvation has been the same from the time of Noah until today.
So yes it was a better, because that covenant actually saved people
But salvation has been the same from the time of Noah until today.
'not under law' is not the same thing as 'do not obey the law'
Suppose you have two people, one under law and one above it. In both cases the individual can either keep or disregard the law - but the one under it, if he disregards it, is liable to be punished under the law, however the one not under it, if he does not keep the law, is not liable to be punished by the law.
This doesn't change anything about the goodness or injustice of whatever law we're talking about - and doesn't say anything about whether the person not under the law can or cannot do the things in the law ((whatever arbitrary law we talk about)). It just means the person not under law is not compelled by the law at all, not required, not punished, not condemned - but the person under the law is, in every way.
One individual is free and the other is not.
Suppose you have two people, one under law and one above it. In both cases the individual can either keep or disregard the law - but the one under it, if he disregards it, is liable to be punished under the law, however the one not under it, if he does not keep the law, is not liable to be punished by the law.
This doesn't change anything about the goodness or injustice of whatever law we're talking about - and doesn't say anything about whether the person not under the law can or cannot do the things in the law ((whatever arbitrary law we talk about)). It just means the person not under law is not compelled by the law at all, not required, not punished, not condemned - but the person under the law is, in every way.
One individual is free and the other is not.
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