Did Jesus have a Hebrew name? Really?

[Hizikyah]

You will notice this occures in many religions. For some reason appearing to call God by a particular name, or to do certain liturgical things, or ceremonies seam to make people think they are closer to God.

so this is nothing new, it has been around for Ages.

Isayah 42:8, "I am Yahweh, that is MY NAME; and My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."

Psalm 105:1, "Give thanks to Yahweh! Call upon His Name! Make known what He has done among the nations!"

Malakyah 2:2, "If you will not hear, if you will not take this to heart--to give glory to My Name, says Yahweh of hosts: I will send a curse upon you! I will curse your blessings; yes, I have cursed them already, because you do not take this to heart."

Mattithyah 23:39, "For I say to you: From this moment you will not see Me, until you say: Blessed is He Who comes in the Name of Yahweh!" (Ps 118:26)

Revelation 3:8, "I know your works. Behold, I have set before you an open door, and no man can shut it; for you have a little strength, and have kept My word, and have not denied My Name."

To bad nobody cares what the Father or the Messiah say.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Isayah 42:8, "I am Yahweh, that is MY NAME; and My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."

Psalm 105:1, "Give thanks to Yahweh! Call upon His Name! Make known what He has done among the nations!"

Malakyah 2:2, "If you will not hear, if you will not take this to heart--to give glory to My Name, says Yahweh of hosts: I will send a curse upon you! I will curse your blessings; yes, I have cursed them already, because you do not take this to heart."

Mattithyah 23:39, "For I say to you: From this moment you will not see Me, until you say: Blessed is He Who comes in the Name of Yahweh!" (Ps 118:26)

Revelation 3:8, "I know your works. Behold, I have set before you an open door, and no man can shut it; for you have a little strength, and have kept My word, and have not denied My Name."

To bad nobody cares what the Father or the Messiah say.

as I have said it seems like 1000 times now. all those passages you wrote were written to hebrew people in the hebrew language, which is his hebrew name.

you have no idea what his name was before the hebrew language was written. Thus you have really know idea what his name is in HIS LANGUAGE.

You can post a hebrew text all you want, it does not prove anything.

 

[Hizikyah]

as I have said it seems like 1000 times now. all those passages you wrote were written to hebrew people in the hebrew language, which is his hebrew name.

you have no idea what his name was before the hebrew language was written. Thus you have really know idea what his name is in HIS LANGUAGE.

You can post a hebrew text all you want, it does not prove anything.

And as I have posted verses that literally say it for the gentiles all I can say is you make excuses to ignore Scripture.

 

[JaumeJ]

Everyone who loves to revere Yahweh is this manner will be ridiculed for the sake of then name. Just as amany are persecuted for the name, Yeshua.

SO a christian grandma that lives by me taught her 8yr old grandson that Jesus real name was Yahshua. The child replied, if thats His name why do we call him that?

My wonder is, I have never told anyone they are doomed for not saying calling upon Yahweh and Yahshua by their real names, yet I am continually spoken against if I choose to use them and promote the use of them (which Scripture teaches), so why is it all is well until one uses their real names?

 

[presidente]

as I have said it seems like 1000 times now. all those passages you wrote were written to hebrew people in the hebrew language, which is his hebrew name.

you have no idea what his name was before the hebrew language was written. Thus you have really know idea what his name is in HIS LANGUAGE.

You can post a hebrew text all you want, it does not prove anything.

IMO, that's a nonsense argument. The Bible doesn't say if God has some other language. But there is a passage where He explains His name to Moses.

 

[JaumeJ]

Yeshua was of the Tribe of Judah, and Israelite of the Children of Israel. His language, because He was human for us, was Hebrew, the Hebrew of His time with us. The only place where I see people changing the names of people with foreign names as a rule has been here in Spain, where they call Queen Elizabeth, Isabael, they call her grandson, William, Guillermo, and they change the spelling of forein names that do not have a direct cognate. Jesus Christ called Himself, Yeshua. Now, if you wish to translate His name to English, good, call Him what it translates as, ¨Salvation, and all ignorance is healed.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

And as I have posted verses that literally say it for the gentiles all I can say is you make excuses to ignore Scripture.

No, I am not ignoring scripture. I just do not speak Hebrew. so why would I want to make myself think that calling God by some hebrew name which is foreign to me will make me more acceptable to him, Or more pleasing to him? That would make me more like a pharisee, than his son.

As I said, When I go to him, I call him dad. When I speak of him, I call him God.

Your still ignoring the fact that you have utterly no idea what his true name is (outside the hebrew language) What Angels call him, and What Adam and Noah Called him.. You just want to puff yourself up. and to be honest, that is sad.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

IMO, that's a nonsense argument. The Bible doesn't say if God has some other language. But there is a passage where He explains His name to Moses.

lol. Yes, God spoke his name to the language Moses spoke. Do you think God was going to give his diety name, which only angels can speak?

Come on now. this is getting quite ridiculous.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yeshua was of the Tribe of Judah, and Israelite of the Children of Israel. His language, because He was human for us, was Hebrew, the Hebrew of His time with us. The only place where I see people changing the names of people with foreign names as a rule has been here in Spain, where they call Queen Elizabeth, Isabael, they call her grandson, William, Guillermo, and they change the spelling of forein names that do not have a direct cognate. Jesus Christ called Himself, Yeshua. Now, if you wish to translate His name to English, good, call Him what it translates as, ¨Salvation, and all ignorance is healed.

Actually he would have spoke most likely more greek or arabic.. In that day and age, Hebrew was normally only spoken by the priests in the temple. for litergical reasons.

 

[JaumeJ]

Isn't it odd how people who call themselves knowledgeable believers today, have adopted the word, god, to call our Maker, a word taken from the Sanskrit language? Yet, to use the translation of the name Yahweh, Which was given by Him to Moses is some kind of an ordeal. People have translted it as "I Am" for the longest time, but it may be translated fully as "Self-Existing."

If a person is not versed in a given language or even a given word selected from its vocabulary, it is best he keeps his mouth shut about what he does not know, rather than to open it wide displaying abject ignorance time and time again. Even a fool is taken as intellignt if he keeps his mouth shut.

Do not get me wrong. I use the names Jesus and God with understanding, but I know the true names are Yeshua and Yahweh in the Hebrew tongue. There is no command for me to use a foreign designaton for Jesus (Greek from the Latin from the Hebrew), or to use God, from Sanskrit with no known origin.

If you do not understand, be satisfied you are saved, euse the Greek and Sanskrit names with all reverence to Yahweh and Yeshua, and do not brazenly display ignorance by telling othes they are winning favor simply because they happen to know something due to study of the Word. It is un-Christ-like to act such. Praise Jesus Christ; He is God Almighty, amen.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Isn't it odd how people who call themselves knowledgeable believers today, have adopted the word, god, to call our Maker, a word taken from the Sanskrit language? Yet, to use the translation of the name Yahweh, Which was given by Him to Moses is some kind of an ordeal. People have translted it as "I Am" for the longest time, but it may be translated fully as "Self-Existing."

Aint it amazing how people will condemn others for calling God his name the persons own language, And not puff themselves up by calling him some foreign name?

How would you like it if your son called you by your foriegn name?

If a person is not versed in a given language or even a given word selected from its vocabulary, it is best he keeps his mouth shut about what he does not know, rather than to open it wide displaying abject ignorance time and time again. Even a fool is taken as intellignt if he keeps his mouth shut.

Dude, You have issues. Your going to condemn people for calling a name given them in their own bibles as ignorant and foolish? Thats prety arrogant of you to say, Do you honestly want to sit there and think God is happy by what you just said? Most people in america have probably never even heard the word yahweh, Or Jehova, Or however you want to pronounce it. And God is going to treat them different than people like you who call him by some foreign name?

I can't judge you, Only God can. But I suggest you go repent right now. And ask God to show you what you have just done!

 

[JaumeJ]

Aint it amazing how people will condemn others for calling God his name the persons own language, And not puff themselves up by calling him some foreign name?

You did not read what I stated. If you did, you certainly do not understand what you read.

How would you like it if your son called you by your foriegn name?

As for a foreign name, it is a fact Yahweh's name is Hebrew, and Yeshua's also. If you were to understand what I posted you would understand I am not opposed to family in Yeshua using the pagan names as long as it is with the reverence due our Father and Savior. You must read before making accusations.



Dude, You have issues. Your going to condemn people for calling a name given them in their own bibles as ignorant and foolish? Thats prety arrogant of you to say, Do you honestly want to sit there and think God is happy by what you just said? Most people in america have probably never even heard the word yahweh, Or Jehova, Or however you want to pronounce it. And God is going to treat them different than people like you who call him by some foreign name?

I can't judge you, Only God can. But I suggest you go repent right now. And ask God to show you what you have just done!

Again, you must read before leveling accusations, I demonstrate in my post that I embrace family no matter what name they employ. The point I have made, and I reiterate, is that people who are ignorant of a fact should not wave their ignorance in public by posting falsehoods, one time and a time again. Please stop twisting what people are sharing here. Read the post before feigning offense.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Aint it amazing how people will condemn others for calling God his name the persons own language, And not puff themselves up by calling him some foreign name?

You did not read what I stated. If you did, you certainly do not understand what you read.

How would you like it if your son called you by your foriegn name?

As for a foreign name, it is a fact Yahweh's name is Hebrew, and Yeshua's also. If you were to understand what I posted you would understand I am not opposed to family in Yeshua using the pagan names as long as it is with the reverence due our Father and Savior. You must read before making accusations.



Dude, You have issues. Your going to condemn people for calling a name given them in their own bibles as ignorant and foolish? Thats prety arrogant of you to say, Do you honestly want to sit there and think God is happy by what you just said? Most people in america have probably never even heard the word yahweh, Or Jehova, Or however you want to pronounce it. And God is going to treat them different than people like you who call him by some foreign name?

I can't judge you, Only God can. But I suggest you go repent right now. And ask God to show you what you have just done!

Again, you must read before leveling accusations, I demonstrate in my post that I embrace family no matter what name they employ. The point I have made, and I reiterate, is that people who are ignorant of a fact should not wave their ignorance in public by posting falsehoods, one time and a time again. Please stop twisting what people are sharing here. Read the post before feigning offense.

i read it.

it was offensive

It was judgmental

It was not from God.

and you need to repent!

 

[JaumeJ]

Isn't it odd how people who call themselves knowledgeable believers today, have adopted the word, god, to call our Maker, a word taken from the Sanskrit language? Yet, to use the translation of the name Yahweh, Which was given by Him to Moses is some kind of an ordeal. People have translted it as "I Am" for the longest time, but it may be translated fully as "Self-Existing."

This first part is an observation coupled with facts about language. No condemnation.

If a person is not versed in a given language or even a given word selected from its vocabulary, it is best he keeps his mouth shut about what he does not know, rather than to open it wide displaying abject ignorance time and time again. Even a fool is taken as intellignt if he keeps his mouth shut.

This second part is sound advice for those who do not know what the subject is they are discussinng, and it is applicable.

Do not get me wrong. I use the names Jesus and God with understanding, but I know the true names are Yeshua and Yahweh in the Hebrew tongue. There is no command for me to use a foreign designaton for Jesus (Greek from the Latin from the Hebrew), or to use God, from Sanskrit with no known origin.

This third part describes how all are permitted to call on the Lord with what name they believe to be permitted as long as it is with due reverence.

If you do not understand, be satisfied you are saved, euse the Greek and Sanskrit names with all reverence to Yahweh and Yeshua, and do not brazenly display ignorance by telling othes they are winning favor simply because they happen to know something due to study of the Word. It is un-Christ-like to act such. Praise Jesus Christ; He is God Almighty, amen

This fourth part gives credence to people from all walks to worship however they are given to, again as long as they believe what they are saying while admonishing those who discuss in the mode of ignorance while condemning others.

I forgive you for your outlandish suggestion that this post of mine requires my repentence. You should look at yourself before making blind accusations based on your emotions and not on the facts. When one's understanding proves to be inadequate, he should calm himself, keeping quiet.

 

[Dan_473]

The key phrase "I think it has a Yah in it.." There is no proof Jesus had a Hebrew name. In the bible Paul calls Peter "Cephas" (Gal 2:11-21). This is strong proof that Pater's true name is an Aramaic name, not Hebrew.

All of Israel was Hellenized for 300 years before the birth of Christ. The Romans also brought their influence to Israel (Greco-Roman influence). The bible even mentions Hellenized Jews (Acts 6:1 They are Jews who lived outside of Israel) and the vast majority of them did not speak Hebrew. Prior to the Hellenistic period the Jews returned from Babylon speak Aramaic, not Hebrew. Certainly some did speak Hebrew but not all. The Jews did react to some degree against the Hellenistic advances on their culture. Hebrew was taught by some teachers in an effort to reverse the trend, but those efforts were a spite in the bucket.

Those in the HRM assume all Jews spoke Hebrew, all of the time and this is pipe dream. They assume all the names listed have been altered from Hebrew names and their is no evidence to support this claim. Especially when you consider Paul referred to Peter by an Aramaic name. Those in the HRM are enamored by all things Jewish and are even willing to stoop to revising history. Their is a bible where they have changed the names to Hebrew names. They even even change the Greek words kurios (Lord) and theos (God) to Hebrew names in a very capricious manner and with no evidence to support such alteration. The names of books in the Greek scriptures are even changed to Hebrew.

So you be the judge. What was Jesus' real name? We can only guess or assume, as their is no evidence of any other name than the name listed in scripture, Iesous (EE-AY-SOOS). Does it really matter?

The key phrase "I think it has a Yah in it.." There is no proof Jesus had a Hebrew name. In the bible Paul calls Peter "Cephas" (Gal 2:11-21). This is strong proof that Pater's true name is an Aramaic name, not Hebrew.

All of Israel was Hellenized for 300 years before the birth of Christ. The Romans also brought their influence to Israel (Greco-Roman influence). The bible even mentions Hellenized Jews (Acts 6:1 They are Jews who lived outside of Israel) and the vast majority of them did not speak Hebrew. Prior to the Hellenistic period the Jews returned from Babylon speak Aramaic, not Hebrew. Certainly some did speak Hebrew but not all. The Jews did react to some degree against the Hellenistic advances on their culture. Hebrew was taught by some teachers in an effort to reverse the trend, but those efforts were a spite in the bucket.

Those in the HRM assume all Jews spoke Hebrew, all of the time and this is pipe dream. They assume all the names listed have been altered from Hebrew names and their is no evidence to support this claim. Especially when you consider Paul referred to Peter by an Aramaic name. Those in the HRM are enamored by all things Jewish and are even willing to stoop to revising history. Their is a bible where they have changed the names to Hebrew names. They even even change the Greek words kurios (Lord) and theos (God) to Hebrew names in a very capricious manner and with no evidence to support such alteration. The names of books in the Greek scriptures are even changed to Hebrew.

So you be the judge. What was Jesus' real name? We can only guess or assume, as their is no evidence of any other name than the name listed in scripture, Iesous (EE-AY-SOOS). Does it really matter?

well, i agree that it doesn't matter... as long as we mean the same person in history... in english, we put a soft 'g' at the start of 'jesus'... which is done pretty much only by english speakers, imo... but we all know who we mean, i think...

in hebrews 4
8 For if Joshua had given them rest,
that name 'joshua'... in the greek text, it's the same greek characters as the name 'jesus'... the lxx has the same when talking about the josh that lead the people into canaan... so i think it could be called a greek name, or a hebrew name... imo it's no big deal...

when the angel tells mary to name him 'jesus, for he will save his people'... there may be a connection to the ot josh... or maybe to the hebrew meaning of the 'josh' name... i think it's 'the lord (4 letter name) is salvation'...

about using hebrew names for nt translations... for me, there's a great deal of freedom... imo the bible doesn't tell us how to translate it... i think everything from 'the message' to an interlinear is ok...

peace to you!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Isn't it odd how people who call themselves knowledgeable believers today, have adopted the word, god, to call our Maker, a word taken from the Sanskrit language? Yet, to use the translation of the name Yahweh, Which was given by Him to Moses is some kind of an ordeal. People have translted it as "I Am" for the longest time, but it may be translated fully as "Self-Existing."

This first part is an observation coupled with facts about language. No condemnation.

So your telling me that all those people who have english bibles Are ignorant, because their bible says God and not yahweh? And that is not judgmental?

sorry, but if I did not know what the word yahweh meant or never heard of it, And all I knew was what th ebible I read means, that would be quite judgmental to me.

If a person is not versed in a given language or even a given word selected from its vocabulary, it is best he keeps his mouth shut about what he does not know, rather than to open it wide displaying abject ignorance time and time again. Even a fool is taken as intellignt if he keeps his mouth shut.

This second part is sound advice for those who do not know what the subject is they are discussinng, and it is applicable.

Again, To say this to a person who has only been given the name "God" from his english bible. is quite judgmental. In fact very arrogant. In fact, to go to them and say, "Yeah Yahweh is so powerful and so great" could be deemed as arrogant and judgmental. We do not speak hebrew., so why would you use the hebrew name. And if you answered them by saying this is the name God gave us, We should use it, Well then why did they not put it in the bible would be the response. And who are you to judge me??

Do not get me wrong. I use the names Jesus and God with understanding, but I know the true names are Yeshua and Yahweh in the Hebrew tongue. There is no command for me to use a foreign designaton for Jesus (Greek from the Latin from the Hebrew), or to use God, from Sanskrit with no known origin.

This third part describes how all are permitted to call on the Lord with what name they believe to be permitted as long as it is with due reverence.

the third part assumes it is Gods real name as spoken by angels and noah and adam, and is again offensive and judgmental. Why do you people not see this? I am sure the pharisees did not think they were judging people either. But we know that is not true. All forms of religion like this offend people. That is why Paul said we should be all things to all people.

If you do not understand, be satisfied you are saved, euse the Greek and Sanskrit names with all reverence to Yahweh and Yeshua, and do not brazenly display ignorance by telling othes they are winning favor simply because they happen to know something due to study of the Word. It is un-Christ-like to act such. Praise Jesus Christ; He is God Almighty, amen

This fourth part gives credence to people from all walks to worship however they are given to, again as long as they believe what they are saying while admonishing those who discuss in the mode of ignorance while condemning others.

I forgive you for your outlandish suggestion that this post of mine requires my repentence. You should look at yourself before making blind accusations based on your emotions and not on the facts. When one's understanding proves to be inadequate, he should calm himself, keeping quiet.

You need to repent from your tone, and you never tell anyone to shut up.

 

[chubbena]

if your going to use hebrew, then translate the whole verse in hebrew, not just one name.

Your being hypocritical and offensive when yuo do this.

Psalms was written in hebrew, not in english and one word in hebrew.

Following your interesting reasoning:
All news networks are hypocrites when it comes to international news unless they give the Premier of China, the Russian President and the like an English name so far removed from the pronunciation of their original languages - or - to broadcast / print the news in their original languages.

 

[Dan_473]

oops! big cut-and-paste error there in #215... my bad!

 

[chubbena]

Dude, I do not speak hebrew. Who said I was ignoring it? If I spoke hebrew I would call him by his hebrew name, i do not.

Why do yuo offend me by talking to me in my language, but using the name given to him by the hebrew people??

So you and the church you are with never said Hallelujah and would consider saying Hallelujah as hypocritical as saying Yeshua, Yahweh or Jehovah?

 

[Donkeyfish07]

Hmmm, what a weird conversation. I'm not responding to anybody in particular here, I just think it's fascinating how many false accusations and assumptions are being made here with absolutely zero evidence throughout the entire discussion. lol.