Did Jesus have a Hebrew name? Really?

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danschance

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YHWH is the only Hebrew word we dont know how to pronounce? Seems there is no problem pronouncing the thousands of other Hebrew words.....Seeing as Yahweh wants us to call upon His Name and satan does not, satan must love this...

Zecharyah 13:9, "And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried. They will call with My Name, and I will hear them. I will say: It is My people! And they will say; Yahweh is my Strength!"

So saying " The bible translators insert the word Lord for in keeping with the word Adonai(Lord)" is proof of following pharisee law by the majority.

Talmud - Mas. Yoma 39b
His brethren [that year] the priests forbore to mention the Ineffable Name (Yahweh) in pronouncing the [priestly] blessing.4 Our Rabbis taught: During the last forty years before the destruction of the Temple the lot [‘For the Lord’] did not come up in the right hand; nor did the crimson-coloured strap become white/"

The Encyclopedia Judaica, Volume 7 page 680
The personal name... written in the Hebrew Bible with the four consonants YHWH and is referred to as the "Tetragrammaton." At least until the destruction of the First Temple in 586 B.C.E. this name was regularly pronounced with its proper vowels, as is clear from the Lachish Letters, written shortly before that date. But at least by the third century B.C.E. the pronunciation of the name YHWH was avoided and Adonai,"the Lord,"was substituted for it.
I am unconcerned with what the Pharisees did. I don't see why it matters if we call him Lord or whatever. No where in scripture are we told to pronounce God's name in a certain way or else. It is a made up conspiracy theory and repeated as an old wives tale.
 

Hizikyah

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I am unconcerned with what the Pharisees did. I don't see why it matters if we call him Lord or whatever. No where in scripture are we told to pronounce God's name in a certain way or else. It is a made up conspiracy theory and repeated as an old wives tale.
You missing or ignoring my point, the pharisees are the ones who replaced YHWH with Adonai (Lord) (its in the quote you quoted of mine) Yahshua, the Messiah literally gave it to them (verbally) over this. And He told us to not do as the Pharisees, beware of the teaching of the pharisees, etc. As followers of Messiah we are not supposed to follow pharisee law, knowingly or unknowingly.
Removing Yahweh's Name is against the 3rd Commandment:

Exodus 20:7, "You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not leave him unpunished who takes His name in vain." NASB

The word vain is the Hebrew word shav meaning: emptiness, vanity. Is it possible that removing Yahweh's name and replacing it with "the Lord" is making it empty?

Exodus 20:7, ""You shall not take the name of Yahweh your God in vain, for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain." WEB

Exodus 20:7, "You shall not take the Name of Yahweh your strength to bring it to nothing, for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who brings it to nothing."

7723 - shav
shav: emptiness, vanity - Original Word: שָׁוְא - Part of Speech: Noun Masculine - Transliteration: shav - Phonetic Spelling: (shawv) - Short Definition: vain

7723 - shav
NAS Exhaustive Concordance - Word Origin from an unused word - Definition: emptiness, vanity

7723 - shav
Brown-Driver-Briggs שָׁוְא noun [masculine] emptiness, vanity

7723 - shav
Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) emptiness, vanity, falsehood - 1a) emptiness, nothingness, vanity - 1b) emptiness of speech, lying - 1c) worthlessness (of conduct)
 

Hizikyah

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Its crazy danschance, I got called (not by you) "hardened heart against Christ" etc for not using Shaul's roman name.

And I stand for the speaking and cherishing of the name of the Creator, and against the removal of it (which Scriptures says should not be removed) and I get attacked for this also.
 
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You missing or ignoring my point, the pharisees are the ones who replaced YHWH with Adonai (Lord) (its in the quote you quoted of mine) Yahshua, the Messiah literally gave it to them (verbally) over this. And He told us to not do as the Pharisees, beware of the teaching of the pharisees, etc. As followers of Messiah we are not supposed to follow pharisee law, knowingly or unknowingly.
Removing Yahweh's Name is against the 3rd Commandment:

Exodus 20:7, "You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not leave him unpunished who takes His name in vain." NASB

The word vain is the Hebrew word shav meaning: emptiness, vanity. Is it possible that removing Yahweh's name and replacing it with "the Lord" is making it empty?

Exodus 20:7, ""You shall not take the name of Yahweh your God in vain, for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain." WEB

Exodus 20:7, "You shall not take the Name of Yahweh your strength to bring it to nothing, for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who brings it to nothing."

7723 - shav
shav: emptiness, vanity - Original Word: שָׁוְא - Part of Speech: Noun Masculine - Transliteration: shav - Phonetic Spelling: (shawv) - Short Definition: vain

7723 - shav
NAS Exhaustive Concordance - Word Origin from an unused word - Definition: emptiness, vanity

7723 - shav
Brown-Driver-Briggs שָׁוְא noun [masculine] emptiness, vanity

7723 - shav
Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) emptiness, vanity, falsehood - 1a) emptiness, nothingness, vanity - 1b) emptiness of speech, lying - 1c) worthlessness (of conduct)
God has thousands of names. I do not think He cares about one of His names falling thru the cracks or He would of made sure we know it.
 

Hizikyah

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God has thousands of names. I do not think He cares about one of His names falling thru the cracks or He would of made sure we know it.
You dont think huh...

Why would the 3rd Commandment be about HIS NAME if He didnt care....

Proverbs 3:1-7, "My son, do not forget my Law, but take my instructions to heart; For length of days, and long life, and peace, they will add to you. Do not let mercy and truth forsake you; tie them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your mind; Then you will find honor, high esteem, and approval in the eyes of Yahweh and man. Trust in Yahweh with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Yahweh, and He will direct your paths. Do not be wise in your own eyes; reverence Yahweh, by turning entirely away from evil."
 
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danschance

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You dont think huh...

Why would the 3rd Commandment be about HIS NAME if He didnt care....

Proverbs 3:1-7, "My son, do not forget my Law, but take my instructions to heart; For length of days, and long life, and peace, they will add to you. Do not let mercy and truth forsake you; tie them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your mind; Then you will find honor, high esteem, and approval in the eyes of Yahweh and man. Trust in Yahweh with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Yahweh, and He will direct your paths. Do not be wise in your own eyes; reverence Yahweh, by turning entirely away from evil."

The third commandment clearly applies to every single name of God in all languages.

If it is only about one name of God, then we can blaspheme and abuse the rest with out sinning.
 

Hizikyah

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The third commandment clearly applies to every single name of God in all languages.

If it is only about one name of God, then we can blaspheme and abuse the rest with out sinning.
Post a verse where Yahweh proclaims His name and it is not YHWH or YHWH and then an attribute.

And He does not say my name is I am that I am, He says, "Then Yahweh said to Mosheh: I am Who I am. And He said: This is what you are to say to the children of Israyl; the I am has sent me to you. "

I dont dispute that Yahweh has a number of valid titles, but surely if He has thousands of Names, you can find one verse where He says "My Name is ......(something not with YHWH)"
 
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Matthew 22:31

But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
32I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
33 And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.

Mark 14:61


But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?
62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
63 Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses?

John 8:56


Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

There is three. By the witness of two or three let everything be established.
 
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peacemakerz22

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sacred goemetry is 11th dimension. there is a Christ Consoiusness gird that symbolizes power health and prosperity. there is the holy mantra of creation, some say, agree or not, that is the sounds of creation : Yod Hey Shin Vav Hey , letters of Hebrew alphabet
 
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danschance

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sacred goemetry is 11th dimension. there is a Christ Consoiusness gird that symbolizes power health and prosperity. there is the holy mantra of creation, some say, agree or not, that is the sounds of creation : Yod Hey Shin Vav Hey , letters of Hebrew alphabet
LOL, Really?..Not.
 

presidente

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I am unconcerned with what the Pharisees did. I don't see why it matters if we call him Lord or whatever. No where in scripture are we told to pronounce God's name in a certain way or else. It is a made up conspiracy theory and repeated as an old wives tale.
If you read the Old Testament in Hebrew, there is a Hebrew name for God right there, and all kinds of statements about His name. The name of Yahweh is a strong tower, for example. There is that passage where God reveals His name to Moses, too. If you read the text saying "Yahweh" instead of "LORD", then you'll pick up on it's importance.
 

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If you read the Old Testament in Hebrew, there is a Hebrew name for God right there, and all kinds of statements about His name. The name of Yahweh is a strong tower, for example. There is that passage where God reveals His name to Moses, too. If you read the text saying "Yahweh" instead of "LORD", then you'll pick up on it's importance.
I agree here because I heard it and blew it off, about 7 years later I got hold of a translation that didnt hide the Name of the Creator, and I realized I had missed it the whole time.

I used to read this verse

Micah 4:5, "For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever."

and say, "I walk in the name of the Lord my God!"

Not realizing my error and what I was actually missing.

Once I read the text properly translated, wow my eyes were opened!

Micahyah (Micah) 4:5, "For all people walk each in the name of his god, but we will walk in the Name of Yahweh our Father forever and ever."

all this happened a few weeks after i started keeping 7th day Sabbath!
 

presidente

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If the NT scriptures reveals Jesus name as EE-AY-SOOS, why call him a hebrew name? Is Hebrew better than Greek or is it snobbery?
The second dipthong is not in Greek. It's a long 'e' sound without the 'y' dipthong like we see in English. What you transliterate as 'OO' wouldn't end with the W sound as a dipthong as in English, either. But I'm getting technical. And isn't what you transliterate as EE-AY, just one syllable.
 
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The second dipthong is not in Greek. It's a long 'e' sound without the 'y' dipthong like we see in English. What you transliterate as 'OO' wouldn't end with the W sound as a dipthong as in English, either. But I'm getting technical. And isn't what you transliterate as EE-AY, just one syllable.
Not according to Strong's. Years ago I studdied Greek as well.

Strong's Concordance
Iésous: Jesus or Joshua, the name of the Messiah, also three other Isr.
Original Word: Ἰησοῦς, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: Iésous
Phonetic Spelling: (ee-ay-sooce')
Short Definition: Jesus
 
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danschance

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Presidente, I see what you are saying. I posted a bit too quick. Thanks for your post.
 
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Did Jesus have a Hebrew name? If so, which one? Some call him Yeshua, some call Him Yashua and some call Him Yahoshua and a whole list of other names. They insist He had a Hebrew name yet the scripture only list his name in Greek as "ee-ay-soos".

There is not a shred of evidence that Jesus had a Hebrew name. Yet people insist He not only had a Hebrew name but we should call Him bu it. Is that Just snobbery?


At the time of Christ, Israel was fully Hellenized for hundreds of years. The common Israelite did not know how to speak Hebrew. Aramaic and Greek was the language in vogue. That is why the Septuagint so the common man could read and understand the OT.

Personalty, I have seen miracles happen when pray was invoked in Jesus name. So I don't Jesus cares if I call Him Jesus. Yet some want to call Him by a name they can not prove He had.
When you go through all those "sacred names" for Jesus, you can get all "tangled up in what is called the "Sacred Name Cult Movement"...very similar to Hebrew Roots Cult. Here's a definition from my Bible Encyclopedia on the name "Jesus Christ":

Way of Life Encyclopedia
JESUS CHRIST


"Jesus" is Greek equivalent of the Hebrew word meaning Savior (Matthew 1:21). "Christ" is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew word Messiah, meaning anointed, and refers to Jesus as the Messiah promised in O.T. Scripture (Daniel 9:25-26; John 1:41; 4:25; Acts 2:36). While Jesus refers particularly to the Lord's humanity and incarnation by which He became a man to die for our sins, Christ refers particularly to the Lord's eternal deity as the Son of God.

Now, read this from Jewish Awareness Ministries

PLEASE NOTE: Jewish Awareness Ministries is NOT an HRM or Messianic movement ministry. It is a Jewish evangelism ministry. Here is a link to their About Us page

Knowledge is one thing...making that "knowledge" a requirement is quite another.
 

JaumeJ

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Jesus in Hebrew is Yeshua, however it may be pronounced many ways according to accent and which form is being used. Joshua son of Num would be Yahoshua, however this name evolved within the language to be Yeshua. No one manner is above another. They all, including Jesus, come from the word in Hebrew for Salvation, simple as that. As for sacred, it is a sacred as is the intent of the one uttering His name. It is not an argument, a dispute or a fight, but it is His name, again, Jesus, Yeshua, Yahoshua and more. One should not ridicule the reverence of others directed at his Savior.
 

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SO a christian grandma that lives by me taught her 8yr old grandson that Jesus real name was Yahshua. The child replied, if thats His name why do we call him that?

My wonder is, I have never told anyone they are doomed for not saying calling upon Yahweh and Yahshua by their real names, yet I am continually spoken against if I choose to use them and promote the use of them (which Scripture teaches), so why is it all is well until one uses their real names?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I am unconcerned with what the Pharisees did. I don't see why it matters if we call him Lord or whatever. No where in scripture are we told to pronounce God's name in a certain way or else. It is a made up conspiracy theory and repeated as an old wives tale.
You will notice this occures in many religions. For some reason appearing to call God by a particular name, or to do certain liturgical things, or ceremonies seam to make people think they are closer to God.

so this is nothing new, it has been around for Ages.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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SO a christian grandma that lives by me taught her 8yr old grandson that Jesus real name was Yahshua. The child replied, if thats His name why do we call him that?

My wonder is, I have never told anyone they are doomed for not saying calling upon Yahweh and Yahshua by their real names, yet I am continually spoken against if I choose to use them and promote the use of them (which Scripture teaches), so why is it all is well until one uses their real names?
I actually call him Dad when I talk to him. Do you think he gets upset when i do this.

If I called my own father by his given name., I think he would be hurt and upset.

I have not been given a spirit of fear. I have been given a spirit of adoption, Whereby I cry out Abba Father

God is my abba father (daddy)