Did the disciples know when the "time" of the kingdom would be set up?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

laymen

Senior Member
Apr 6, 2014
680
102
43
faithlife.com
#1
Matthew always talks about the kingdom of God.



The Background for Jesus’ Teaching about the Kingdom Is the Book of Daniel

The primary Old Testament background for Matthew’s teaching about the kingdom appears to be the book of Daniel. Several lines of evidence support this conclusion. First, only in Daniel does Jesus’ favorite preaching topic, the kingdom of God, appear in connection with Jesus’ favorite title for himself, Son of Man. Second, the Gospel of Matthew is saturated with allusions to Daniel: e.g., Matt. 13:24–30, 37–43 (Dan. 12:2–3); Matt. 13:31–32 (Dan. 4:21–22); and Matt. 26:64 (Dan. 7:13–14). Altogether, Matthew contains more than thirty possible quotations, verbal parallels, and allusions to Daniel. Thus, a study of Daniel’s descriptions of the kingdom is particularly helpful for understanding the references to the kingdom in the Gospel of Matthew. Quarles, C. L. (2013). A Theology of Matthew: Jesus Revealed as Deliverer, King, and Incarnate Creator. (R. A. Peterson, Ed.) (1st Ed., p. 87). Phillipsburg, NJ: P&R Publishing.

So do we know if the study of Daniel is going to show us when Jesus would set up he kingdom by the son of David?
 

Gideon300

Well-known member
Mar 18, 2021
4,931
2,855
113
#2
Matthew always talks about the kingdom of God.



The Background for Jesus’ Teaching about the Kingdom Is the Book of Daniel

The primary Old Testament background for Matthew’s teaching about the kingdom appears to be the book of Daniel. Several lines of evidence support this conclusion. First, only in Daniel does Jesus’ favorite preaching topic, the kingdom of God, appear in connection with Jesus’ favorite title for himself, Son of Man. Second, the Gospel of Matthew is saturated with allusions to Daniel: e.g., Matt. 13:24–30, 37–43 (Dan. 12:2–3); Matt. 13:31–32 (Dan. 4:21–22); and Matt. 26:64 (Dan. 7:13–14). Altogether, Matthew contains more than thirty possible quotations, verbal parallels, and allusions to Daniel. Thus, a study of Daniel’s descriptions of the kingdom is particularly helpful for understanding the references to the kingdom in the Gospel of Matthew. Quarles, C. L. (2013). A Theology of Matthew: Jesus Revealed as Deliverer, King, and Incarnate Creator. (R. A. Peterson, Ed.) (1st Ed., p. 87). Phillipsburg, NJ: P&R Publishing.

So do we know if the study of Daniel is going to show us when Jesus would set up he kingdom by the son of David?
No. It's a work in progress that has being going on for 2,000 years. The Kingdom of God is fundamentally the place where Lord Jesus rules and Satan has been driven out. The early church was convinced that Lord Jesus would return virtually immediately, so much so that some believers quit work in anticipation. Paul rebuked them.
Romans 13:
10Love does no wrong to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. 11And do this, understanding the occasion. The hour has come for you to wake up from your slumber, for our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. 12The night is nearly over; the day has drawn near. So let us lay aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.…

Every generation of Christians expects to be the last, apart from a few who are an exception. God's view of time is not the same as ours. What we think is a long time is nothing to God. He sees 2,000 years as a couple of days. All we can say for sure is that the day is closer now than it was 2,000 years ago.
 

laymen

Senior Member
Apr 6, 2014
680
102
43
faithlife.com
#3
No. It's a work in progress that has being going on for 2,000 years. The Kingdom of God is fundamentally the place where Lord Jesus rules and Satan has been driven out. The early church was convinced that Lord Jesus would return virtually immediately, so much so that some believers quit work in anticipation. Paul rebuked them.
Romans 13:
10Love does no wrong to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. 11And do this, understanding the occasion. The hour has come for you to wake up from your slumber, for our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. 12The night is nearly over; the day has drawn near. So let us lay aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.…

Every generation of Christians expects to be the last, apart from a few who are an exception. God's view of time is not the same as ours. What we think is a long time is nothing to God. He sees 2,000 years as a couple of days. All we can say for sure is that the day is closer now than it was 2,000 years ago.

Where there is a king there is a kingdom....


Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.


Jesus the son of David anointed. We the people are who make up this kingdom. Satan has been kicked out of heaven. One day it will be on earth as it is in heaven. I think the chapter 9 of Dan tells us when that kingdom was set up when Jesus died in the 70 weeks. This is why the book of Mat talks so much about the kingdom of God. And shows photos of Daniel. to point back to what they would have been studying.
 

JaumeJ

Senior Member
Jul 2, 2011
21,231
6,529
113
#4
No. It's a work in progress that has being going on for 2,000 years. The Kingdom of God is fundamentally the place where Lord Jesus rules and Satan has been driven out. The early church was convinced that Lord Jesus would return virtually immediately, so much so that some believers quit work in anticipation. Paul rebuked them.
Romans 13:
10Love does no wrong to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. 11And do this, understanding the occasion. The hour has come for you to wake up from your slumber, for our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. 12The night is nearly over; the day has drawn near. So let us lay aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.…

Every generation of Christians expects to be the last, apart from a few who are an exception. God's view of time is not the same as ours. What we think is a long time is nothing to God. He sees 2,000 years as a couple of days. All we can say for sure is that the day is closer now than it was 2,000 years ago.
For six days our Maker labored and on the Seventh Day He rested.

Two thousand yeards are but two days to our Fatherr . Those who believe and know realize we are on the brink of the Seventh Day.

All should know to begin their counting from Adam.............This is when the work began.