Didn’t God make all things Good?

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UnderGrace

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I know he didn’t. Are you trying to take words out of something I did not say? I believe The father that lived within his flesh was good.. a righteous voice wrapped in a coat of skin. The flesh is filthy. The Holy spirit is divine..
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This would be Gnosticism.
 
CharliRenee

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In response to the threads title...

And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
Romans 8:28 NASB

It is an ongoing practice that only He gets to claim and profess...js
 
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UnderGrace said:
This would be Gnosticism.
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Jesus said the flesh was dirty. Do you not understand .. Gnosticism a man even created that. Since you know so much about it. Matthew 15:16.
 
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TheWind

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CharliRenee said:
And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
Romans 8:28 NASB

It is an ongoing practice that only He gets to claim...js
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So was Good or evil called to his purpose? I only ask..... Not because I don’t already know.. put to prove a point . Who was called?
 
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TheWind said:
I know he didn’t. Are you trying to take words out of something I did not say?
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Here is what you did say:

TheWind said:
He saw him as good...Because his works were good. But it is The fathers works which he came to do.. they were not Jesus works. But the will of his father’s. .. that’s why Jesus denied being Good... The father is Good.
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Care to recant?

TheWind said:
I believe The father that lived within his flesh was good.. a righteous voice wrapped in a coat of skin. The flesh is filthy. The Holy spirit is divine..
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This is heretical gnostic garbage.
 
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TheWind said:
To exalt your knowledge against another is like the devil to me... for the serpent in the garden was never asked for a confession?? Only the woman and the man. So who did God believe to be at fault? (I’m only asking since you say you know so much about the scriptures?) And of the serpents eats dust... and men are made from dust.. does the serpent eat our flesh? Like it is supposed to do. Afflict ya and purify is... Jesus said eat of his flesh. So who ate dust??
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Satan was at fault for his act of deceiving Eve Gods creation..

The woman was at fault for disbelieving God..

The man was at fault for again disbelieving God..

We are derived from dust but the dust is in the transformed form of Flesh and Bone.. So not longer in the form of dust.. Now eventually these flesh bodes return to dust as the old saying goes.. Dust to dust..

When Jesus said to drink His blood and eat his flesh He was not talking about His actual flesh and blood.. He was talking about Believing His teachings and trusting in His Atoning Blood He offered up on the cross..

What is your interpretation my dear Bible scholar?
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Sarcasim is pointless.. It really is pointless.. You either believe or you disbelieve, that's up to you..
 
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TheWind said:
I didn’t say he did... because he was to become one with the father. As he sought his glory. He prayed “ Father glorify your name”. And he answered I have glorified it. And will glorify again. Therefore the father is good.. not the flesh of man.. God is a spirit.
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Don't stop there.. Read on so you can read the critical verse..

John 17: KJV
4 "I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. {5} And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."

Jesus was with God before God created the universe.. Jesus is the Word of God..

John 1: KJV
1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. {2} The same was in the beginning with God. {3} All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."
 
CharliRenee

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TheWind said:
So was Good or evil called to his purpose? I only ask..... Not because I don’t already know.. put to prove a point . Who was called?
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My understanding is those who respond to His calling. He wishes that none should perish.

Let me see if I understand you.

Let me take a gander...

So basically what I think you are saying is God knew that the adversary was going to fall, and He planned it that way so He could be used to have the rest of us fall, in hopes to draw us back to Him?

Was satan created to be used, through transgression, to bring choice to us fleshly beings?

Hmmmmm...

Can I just say my thoughts are not His, as my ways are also not His?

I look so forward to the unveiling.
 
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Dino246 said:
Here is what you did say:


Care to recant?


This is heretical gnostic garbage.
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Those are scriptures. Are you in a Christian chat room? Pushing Gnosticism knowledge.
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Don't stop there.. Read on so you can read the critical verse..

John 17: KJV
4 "I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. {5} And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."

Jesus was with God before God created the universe.. Jesus is the Word of God..

John 1: KJV
1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. {2} The same was in the beginning with God. {3} All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."
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The father was in him. What’s your point? Jesus always glorified his father not himself. There’s many I can refer to
 
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Satan was at fault for his act of deceiving Eve Gods creation..

The woman was at fault for disbelieving God..

The man was at fault for again disbelieving God..

We are derived from dust but the dust is in the transformed form of Flesh and Bone.. So not longer in the form of dust.. Now eventually these flesh bodes return to dust as the old saying goes.. Dust to dust..

When Jesus said to drink His blood and eat his flesh He was not talking about His actual flesh and blood.. He was talking about Believing His teachings and trusting in His Atoning Blood He offered up on the cross..



Sarcasim is pointless.. It really is pointless.. You either believe or you disbelieve, that's up to you..
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It doesn’t really matter in the end what any of us believe. For only God knows the truth. And it shall be revealed. And it will be a time like no other. For God is the God of everyone whether they believe in him or not. In Genesis. God gave Pharaoh a dream .. he didn’t even worship the Hebrew Gods. But pharaoh had a dream anyway. And God used Egyptians to bless the Hebrews. God can do whatever he wants. Believer or non believer.
 
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UnderGrace said:
Thank you....I need to learn to be more direct ;)
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Me too, you are much further along than me.

Dino here---------undergrace here ------------------------------------------------------------- me here.
 
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TheWind

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CharliRenee said:
My understanding is those who respond to His calling. He wishes that none should perish.

Let me see if I understand you.

Let me take a gander...

So basically what I think you are saying is God knew that the adversary was going to fall, and He planned it that way so He could be used to have the rest of us fall, in hopes to draw us back to Him?

Was satan created to be used, through transgression, to bring choice to us fleshly beings?

Hmmmmm...

Can I just say my thoughts are not His, as my ways are also not His?

I look so forward to the unveiling.
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Didn’t God gave Adam free will as a man... “ IF YOU EAT OF THIS TREE...”. And he chose to eat from the tree knowing the consequence... Both he and his wife. I never read the snake was asked for a confession.. so maybe God disguised himself to see what man would do... besides. All the snake did was ask a question... how man interprets direction and response would be only a guess. A test of faith maybe.
 
Dino246

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TheWind said:
Those are scriptures. Are you in a Christian chat room? Pushing Gnosticism knowledge.
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You are the one pushing gnosticism.

If you persist in doing so, you will be reported to the moderators, and you will be banned from the site.
 
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TheWind said:
Didn’t God gave Adam free will as a man... “ IF YOU EAT OF THIS TREE...”. And he chose to eat from the tree knowing the consequence... Both he and his wife. I never read the snake was asked for a confession.. so maybe God disguised himself to see what man would do... besides. All the snake did was ask a question... how man interprets direction and response would be only a guess. A test of faith maybe.
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Finally you reveal what you really believe in more straight forward manner.

fyi.... Luciferian religion is wrong, Jesus and Lucifer are not one.
 
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CharliRenee said:
Me too, you are much further along than me.

Dino here---------undergrace here ------------------------------------------------------------- me here.
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You need to add DCon way out to the left of where I am. ;)
 
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UnderGrace said:
Thank you....I need to learn to be more direct ;)
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The world knows the world. .. I don’t fill myself up with heresy... Gnosticism , astrological magical beings. Nor do I know much about them to accuse someone else of practicing them. But you do. How so?
 
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UnderGrace said:
Finally you reveal what you really believe in more straight forward manner.

fyi.... Luciferian religion is wrong, Jesus and Lucifer are not one.
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So can a magnet be a magnet with the negative in the equation? How far does east go to the west? Isn’t God the God of David and Saul.. how do you know what is in a man?
 
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Dino246 said:
You are the one pushing gnosticism.

If you persist in doing so, you will be reported to the moderators, and you will be banned from the site.
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This thread reminds of the Rolling Stones song............. Sympathy for the Devil
 
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TheWind

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Satan was at fault for his act of deceiving Eve Gods creation..

The woman was at fault for disbelieving God..

The man was at fault for again disbelieving God..

We are derived from dust but the dust is in the transformed form of Flesh and Bone.. So not longer in the form of dust.. Now eventually these flesh bodes return to dust as the old saying goes.. Dust to dust..

When Jesus said to drink His blood and eat his flesh He was not talking about His actual flesh and blood.. He was talking about Believing His teachings and trusting in His Atoning Blood He offered up on the cross..



Sarcasim is pointless.. It really is pointless.. You either believe or you disbelieve, that's up to you..
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Believe you? Or God? I am in the Christian chat room. Am I not a believer to be here as well?
 
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