Dietary Law?

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Dietary Law: Yes or No?

  • Yes, Law is still in place

    Votes: 6 37.5%
  • No, I can eat what I want

    Votes: 10 62.5%

  • Total voters
    16
  • Poll closed .

Hizikyah

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Any of my Brothers or Sisters who believe they must keep all the Dietary Laws............ok with me, but be sure you keep ALL THE LAWS, not just the ones concerning what you do or do not eat..............k?

And you may want to give some serious thought as to whose house you visit, especially if there is a chance they will be serving food..............just saying

:)
I joyfully love all of His Instructions. They are for our well being.
 
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I have stop eating pork for several years now because pork is harsh on the body. A lady told me that her children stated to her the following: Each time they ate pork that headaches will appear and that is why folks have high blood pressure. Stop feeding your children, family swine because doctors have been telling folks for years how deadly is swine/pork to our bodies. Process food is horrible because fast food will kill you and food industry is corrupt to the core. I have changed my diet now I am healthier. Changes in my life are the following:

1. I can walk without the leg braces it has been four years
2. I have lost 70 pounds and 50 pounds to go.
3. My blood pressure is 117/70 without pills.
4. Workout fives a week
5. I can do down ward dog which I could not do before and plank for 1min
6. Went from a size 26 to size 14
Hallelujah Hallelujah!!

My birthday was Friday, I am 48 years old and folks thought I was 37 years old.
 

Hizikyah

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1. I can walk without the leg braces it has been four years
2. I have lost 70 pounds and 50 pounds to go.
3. My blood pressure is 117/70 without pills.
4. Workout fives a week
5. I can do down ward dog which I could not do before and plank for 1min
6. Went from a size 26 to size 14
Hallelujah Hallelujah!!

My birthday was Friday, I am 48 years old and folks thought I was 37 years old.
praise Yah!!!!!
 
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I joyfully love all of His Instructions. They are for our well being.
Loving them and doing them are two very different things. No human can be faithful to all of them, therefore if that's your goal, you will never reach it through any effort on your part.
 

p_rehbein

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(excerpt from Article) Suggest you click to review the chart comparing pork to beef:

If there is one protein source that gets a bad rap, and unjustifiably so, it is pork.
Pork vs. Beef Here is a chart – a tale of the tape, if you will – that compares the nutritional values of 8 ounces of pork tenderloin and 8 ounces of top sirloin (beef). As you can see, pork more than holds its own against another of my favorite sources of protein.


At some point, pork garnered a bad reputation for being fatty. Certainly, some cuts, such as ribs and bacon, are full of fat. But others, such as tenderloin and center-cut chops, are pretty lean. This is partly because pork farmers have responded to dietary trends by breeding leaner pork.


In fact, in 2006, the U.S. Department of Agriculture conducted a study to re-evaluate pork’s macronutrients, and it found that while protein content had remained the same, the fat content of eight cuts of pork was significantly lower.
In addition, the National Pork Board reports that some cuts are 16% lower in total fat and 27% lower in saturated fat. Tenderloin in particular has half the total fat of top sirloin, one of the leanest cuts of beef.


Equally important, however, is the type of fat in pork. While we all know that beef is relatively high in saturated fat – which has been linked to cardiovascular disease in sedentary people – the majority of fat in pork is mono-unsaturated. That is good for a few reasons.


(found here)
Pork vs. Beef » iFitandHealthy.com - How to Lose Weight, How ...
 

Hizikyah

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In fact, in 2006, the U.S. Department of Agriculture conducted a study to re-evaluate pork
OK, you go with the Dept of Agra,

I will go with, "the pig, for though it divides the hoof, thus making a split hoof, it does not chew cud, it is unclean to you"

New Double Bt Toxic Soy Just Approved by US Department of Agriculture


How about an EXTRA does of Bt toxins in your food? The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) has already given their rubber stamp to Bacillus thuringiensis or Bt corn, cotton, potatoes, and soy that contain a soil dwelling bacterium used as a biological pesticide linked to negative immune system responses in a single dose, but now insect-resistant trait event DAS-81419-2, a double Bt toxin soy has now been de-regulated or ‘approved’ by our illustrious ‘protector of the food supply.’
Bt toxins basically explode the stomachs of unwanted insects in order to kill them:
“To kill a susceptible insect, a part of the plant that contains the Bt protein (not all parts of the plant necessarily contain the protein in equal concentrations) must be ingested. Within minutes, the protein binds to the gut wall and the insect stops feeding. Within hours, the gut wall breaks down and normal gut bacteria invade the body cavity. The insect dies of septicaemia as bacteria multiply in the blood. Even among Lepidoptera larvae, species differ in sensitivity to the Bt protein.”
Monsanto once promised the world that Bt GMOs would only harm pests – not humans, but Bt toxic proteins have been found in the blood of both pregnant mothers and their fetuses, and the health concerns surrounding Bt toxins loom large.
Bt proteins, specifically Cry1Aa, Cry1Ab, Cry1Ac or Cry2A are extremely toxic to mammalian blood. One study explains:
“. . . Cry toxins exert their toxicity when activated at alkaline pH of the digestive tract of susceptible larvae, and, because the physiology of the mammalian digestive system does not allow their activation, and no known specific receptors in mammalian intestinal cells have been reported, the toxicity [of] these MCAs [microbial control agents] to mammals would negligible. However, our study demonstrated that Bt spore-crystals genetically modified to express individually Cry1Aa, Cry1Ab, Cry1Ac or Cry2A induced hematotoxicity, particularly to the erythroid lineage. This finding corroborates literature that demonstrated that alkali-solubilized Bt spore-crystals caused in vitro hemolysis in cell lines of rat, mouse, sheep, horse, and human erythrocytes and suggested that the plasma membrane of susceptible cells (erythrocytes, in this case) may be the primary target for these toxins. . .”
The USDA’s deregulation of the two Bt protein trait to be allowed in soybeans through biotech engineering methods opens the door for other crops to be modified with additional Bt toxins as well.
This ‘in-plant’ GM version of soy was created in order to protect against pests like fall army (Spodoptera frugiperda), soybean looper (Pseudoplusia includes), velvetbean caterpillar (Anticarsia gemmatalis), soybean podworm (Helicoverpa gelotopoeon) and tobacco budworm (Heliothis virescens) and Rachiplusia nu.
Dow AgroSciences said the two-Bt trait can be included in their Enlist soybeans, created to withstand copious sprayings of 2,4-D a choline-based herbicide. Enlist soybeans of this nature are currently pending approval by the USDA.
Dow AgroSciences states:
“Upon regulatory approvals, the soybean insect-resistant trait will be offered as a stack with the company’s innovative Enlist soybean traits in elite and high-yielding varieties. This integrated solution will provide much-needed insect control as well as tolerance to multiple herbicides for improved weed management, allowing crops to maximize yield in a highly efficient and sustainable manner.”
The U.S. is only one of a few countries where the Bt trait has been submitted for regulatory approval. Dow AgroSciences has said the trait would initially be targeted for commercialization in soybeans for South America where lepidopteran insect pressure can be quite high. Brazil and Argentina are specifically noted as countries that could greatly benefit from new Bt-traited soybeans. The company said it plans to broadly license the technology to regional seed companies in those two countries but wasn’t expecting it to be in South American soybean seed for three to five years.
There has been no timeline for the trait to be incorporated into U.S. Enlist soybeans, but the first Enlist soybeans, possibly approved by the USDA and commercially available as soon as 2015, will not have the DAS-81419-2 event included.
Biotech usually tries to choose a “selectable marker gene” that is normally associated with a gene of interest during plant transformation, but they can never account for rouge genes and the way they will affect organisms outside of the plants in which they are insinuated. Just like the USDA itself, now essentially a rogue agency doing whatever they want to our food supply, transgenic implantation offers only dire health consequences over time to those who consume them. Would we expect anything less from consuming a ‘food’ that has its own ‘built-in’ pesticide?
 

p_rehbein

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ok, so you don't eat soy bean either? I don't, it has zero taste.........you do know that soy bean is grown to feed ALL livestock? Not just pigs?

Besides, we BBQ our Pork, and that makes it "clean" :)

(Kinda like when Jews had to wash themselves before entering the Temple.............)
 

Hizikyah

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Loving them and doing them are two very different things. No human can be faithful to all of them, therefore if that's your goal, you will never reach it through any effort on your part.
It's always my effort... ok.

Of course Im not perfect, never said I was, and not saying I will ever be in the flesh, but I find it odd you feel it necessary to tell people what I will and wont do....

What happened to;

Philippians 4:13(NKJV)
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me."

All things except walk in His ways? Or all things except not eat pork?

Really? So I say "I love what He says" You reply, you can't do it"

Acts 20:28, "Therefore, be on guard for yourselves and the whole flock over which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to feed the called out ones of Yahweh, which Yahshua has purchased with His own blood."

I find it crazy, believers are so quick to tell other believers that no you can;t do right, and you know if you do, your "justified by works"

What ever happened to being guided by Him and doing right? Is this impossible?
 
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Wow, this debate is still going on !!!
Well I guess it will never end as long as people debate rather or not all the 613 Mosaic laws still apply to us, in which the NT covenant we are under says we are not and that all food is clean and sanctified by the word and prayer.
 

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Wow, this debate is still going on !!!
Well I guess it will never end as long as people debate rather or not all the 613 Mosaic laws still apply to us, in which the NT covenant we are under says we are not and that all food is clean and sanctified by the word and prayer.
Are GMOs sanctified by prayer?...
 

Hizikyah

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O honestly feel like people argue against foods, being such a minor Instruction, trivialize it, and then because they feel if they can "defeat that" then they can trash it all.



I wouldnt eat this stuff if I knew the scientific facts and was an atheists, but that is not the case, I found out the scientific stuff later, all I need is Him saying dont eat, Im ok, and for personal opinion, I like lean meats personally anyway. SO NP.
 
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What is love?

So much for obedience to what He says being evil huh?
There still is no mention of pork being evil. No pork can be used on an approved altar. What altar?
Where is "evil" associated with pork in the Bible, other than demons going into them when Jesus cast them out of the demoniac?

Cleanness in the Old Testament is associated with ritualistic matters of Judaism. Even in Deuteronomy God made allowance for the tribes of Israel to eat whatever they had available, while keeping the requirements for sacrifices. You refuse to deal with that?

While you refuse to acknowledge that, we Christians believe the blood of Jesus shed at the cross cleanses us from all sin. It doesn't matter one wit about the ceremonial cleanness of an animal. All that matters now is faith in His blood.
Romans 3:24-26 (KJV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP] Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
[SUP]25 [/SUP] Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
[SUP]26 [/SUP] To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.


So why do you insist on retaining the "cleanness/uncleanness" of foods when the blood of Jesus replaced all that? There is no altar to put "clean" animals on. God has not allowed the Jews to restore any of that. There will be a new temple, but without animal sacrifices accepted by God. The current plans in Israel is to do that with a red heifer, but God won't allow that to happen, hence their supreme difficulty in finding a kosher red heifer breeding stock for the planned temple. The Muslims will have to be set aside before any of that can happen anyway.

No human is able to obey the law of the first born male in each family to be in Jerusalem to obey Moses each year. PETA will stop any such activity, though I dislike their platform greatly, favoring but two points only.

Whatever diseases are in the history of pork or any other flesh is dealt with in reference to a matter of proper cooking. Fire/heat cleans. Proper internal temperatures make the difference, not prohibitions from Moses.

There are also far more deadly diseases of "clean" animals for which there is no cure or even effective treatment. Mad Cow disease is just one. Beef is on the kosher list. Bovine spongiform encephalopathy can't be properly detected or prevented by kosher alone. Why pick on pork alone? Avoiding an infected cow brain or spinal cord is the only way to avoid dying from it. Where is that in the law or modern kosher? If the brain information is now added, by what authority was Moses altered?

You pick an animal that when covered with mud is ugly to represent an "evil" animal. Anecdotal "evidence" is severely lacking. Scriptures indicate we ought not first concern the body. The order of importance is with out spirit first, then soul, then body. Nowadays too many folks start with emphasis on the body. That's focusing on the "flesh". Many people will then say we ought to be educated, feeding the soul. Somewhere down the list our spiritman enters in from time to time.

God emphasises our inner man (spirit), then the soul (mind), then the body of flesh.
 

Hizikyah

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What are you talking about, I didn't say anything about "pork being evil"

wow nothing like cutting out prat of my quote and misrepresenting it...

Pigs, catfish, and vultures, etc are not evil they have their purpose, they are biological "garbage disposals" of earth; to eat all the rotting carcasses and such from the earth so the animals that are healthy to eat for us do not become sick from rotting carcases and spreading disease....

There still is no mention of pork being evil. No pork can be used on an approved altar. What altar?
Where is "evil" associated with pork in the Bible, other than demons going into them when Jesus cast them out of the demoniac?

Cleanness in the Old Testament is associated with ritualistic matters of Judaism. Even in Deuteronomy God made allowance for the tribes of Israel to eat whatever they had available, while keeping the requirements for sacrifices. You refuse to deal with that?

While you refuse to acknowledge that, we Christians believe the blood of Jesus shed at the cross cleanses us from all sin. It doesn't matter one wit about the ceremonial cleanness of an animal. All that matters now is faith in His blood.
Romans 3:24-26 (KJV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP] Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
[SUP]25 [/SUP] Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
[SUP]26 [/SUP] To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.


So why do you insist on retaining the "cleanness/uncleanness" of foods when the blood of Jesus replaced all that? There is no altar to put "clean" animals on. God has not allowed the Jews to restore any of that. There will be a new temple, but without animal sacrifices accepted by God. The current plans in Israel is to do that with a red heifer, but God won't allow that to happen, hence their supreme difficulty in finding a kosher red heifer breeding stock for the planned temple. The Muslims will have to be set aside before any of that can happen anyway.

No human is able to obey the law of the first born male in each family to be in Jerusalem to obey Moses each year. PETA will stop any such activity, though I dislike their platform greatly, favoring but two points only.

Whatever diseases are in the history of pork or any other flesh is dealt with in reference to a matter of proper cooking. Fire/heat cleans. Proper internal temperatures make the difference, not prohibitions from Moses.

There are also far more deadly diseases of "clean" animals for which there is no cure or even effective treatment. Mad Cow disease is just one. Beef is on the kosher list. Bovine spongiform encephalopathy can't be properly detected or prevented by kosher alone. Why pick on pork alone? Avoiding an infected cow brain or spinal cord is the only way to avoid dying from it. Where is that in the law or modern kosher? If the brain information is now added, by what authority was Moses altered?

You pick an animal that when covered with mud is ugly to represent an "evil" animal. Anecdotal "evidence" is severely lacking. Scriptures indicate we ought not first concern the body. The order of importance is with out spirit first, then soul, then body. Nowadays too many folks start with emphasis on the body. That's focusing on the "flesh". Many people will then say we ought to be educated, feeding the soul. Somewhere down the list our spiritman enters in from time to time.

God emphasises our inner man (spirit), then the soul (mind), then the body of flesh.
What is love?

Did the creator tell us not to eat this


because He loves us and does not want us to get sick?

Are There Deadly Superbugs in Your Pork?

The Unsavory Side of Pork

The pork and swine industry has been continually plagued, and continues to be so to this day, by a wide variety of hazardous and deadly infections and diseases, including:

PRRS -- A horrendous disease, which I first reported on in 2001, but which had been a nightmare for many nations since the mid-1980s, is still alive and kicking today.

At one point referred to as "swine mystery disease," "blue abortion," and "swine infertility," the disease was finally named "Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome” (PRRS), and may afflict about 75 percent of American pig herds.

The PRRS virus primarily attacks the pig’s immune system, leaving its body open to a host of infections, particularly in the lungs. Initial research revealed that the virus was transmitted via semen, saliva and blood, leaving pigs herded closely together and transported in close quarters by trucks more susceptible to infection.

However, according to new research presented at the 2007 International PRRS Symposium shows that the disease is now airborne, making eradication efforts very difficult. According to the PRRS Coordinated Agricultural Project (CAP) and the National Pork Board, it is still the most economically significant disease of swine in the U.S.

The Nipah Virus – Discovered in 1999, the Nipah virus has caused disease in both animals and humans, through contact with infected animals. In humans, the virus can lead to deadly encephalitis (an acute inflammation of your brain). I originally reported on this virus in 2000, but according to CDC data, the Nipah virus reemerged again in 2004.

Hepatitis E (HEV) – According to the Mayo Clinic and an article in the Journal of Clinical Biology, pork may be the reservoir responsible for sporadic, locally acquired cases of acute hepatitis reported in regions with relatively mild climates as HEV has been found to transmit between swine and humans.

Porcine Endogenous Retrovirus (PERV) – According to a study in the journal Lancet, this virus can spread to people receiving pig organ transplants, and according to test tube studies, PERV strains does have the ability to infect human cells. PERV genes are scattered throughout pigs' genetic material, and researchers have found that pig heart, spleen and kidney cells release various strains of the virus.

Menangle Virus – In 1998, the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases reported that a new virus infecting pigs was able to jump to humans. The menangle virus was discovered in August 1997 when sows at an Australian piggery began giving birth to deformed and mummified piglets.


Trichinosis
Gale Encyclopedia of Medicine, 3rd ed. | 2006 | Carson-DeWitt, Rosalyn | Copyright
Definition:Trichinosis is a disease caused by a roundworm (nematode) called Trichinella spiralis. An individual worm of this species is called a trichina, from the Greek word meaning "hairlike." Trichinae can be readily avoided by proper handling and cooking of certain meats, particularly pork products.
Description

The life cycle of T. spiralis includes several different stages. The adult trichina lives in the intestinal lining of such meat-eating animals as swine, bears, walrus, and rodents. After mating, the male worm dies while the female goes on to produce the offspring.

Roundworms have a stage of development called the embryonic stage, which in many species occurs after birth. In trichinae, however, this embryonic stage occurs within the uterus of the female, so the offspring that are ultimately discharged into the host's intestinal lining are in the larval second stage of life. These larvae—about 1500 from each female worm—travel through the circulatory system to the heart, then through the blood vessels leading to striated muscle (the muscle of the skeletal system and the heart). Most larvae that cannot find suitable locations in striated muscle will die.

Those larvae that reach striated muscle will grow to a length of about one millimeter, coil themselves, and enclose themselves within a protective wall called a cyst. This process is referred to as encysting. The worms in the cysts can live for up to ten years in this form.

A pig that has been infected with T. spiralis, then, has thousands of cysts lying dormant within its muscles—the very muscles that humans look forward to consuming in the form of pork chops, ham, barbecued ribs, etc. When humans sit down to a delicious meal of undercooked, trichina-infected pig dinner, they are ingesting T. spiralis cysts. The cyst walls are broken down by the usual process of food digestion in the stomach, allowing the larvae to escape into the new host's intestines. There the larvae mature to become adult worms, capable of producing a new crop of larvae. When these new larvae hatch, they begin their migration throughout the human host's bloodstream to his or her muscles, where they live for a short while before encysting.
Causes and symptoms

Human hosts who eat meat infested with trichinae may experience symptoms in varying degrees. If the meat ingested has only a few cysts, then the human host's load of parasites (worm burden) is said to be relatively small, and symptoms will be moderate. In fact, many trichinosis infections are subclinical, which means that the symptoms are so mild that the infection remains undiagnosed. In a host with a greater worm burden, the initial symptoms will be caused by the presence of the adult worms in the intestine. These symptoms usually include fever, diarrhea, abdominal pain, and perhaps vomiting. The symptoms begin about one to two days after eating the contaminated meat, and may last for a week or so.

When the larvae begin their migration through the blood vessels, the host will begin to experience symptoms that affect the whole body (systemic symptoms), such as fever; swelling of the face and the area around the eyes; rash; bleeding into the nail beds, retina, and whites of the eyes; and cough. In very severe cases of trichinosis, inflammation of the heart muscle (myocarditis ), lungs (pneumonitis), or brain (encephalitis) may occur. These symptoms can lead to the few deaths caused by trichinosis.

The larvae begin to burrow into the host's muscles and form cysts within two to three weeks of the initial infection. This encysting produces signs of muscle inflammation (myositis) including swelling of the affected muscle groups, pain, and weakness. The most frequently affected muscles are the muscles outside the eye (extraocular muscles) that control eye movements; the muscles of the jaw, neck, and upper arm (biceps muscle); the muscles of the lower back (lumbar region); and the diaphragm, which is the muscle that separates the abdominal and chest cavities and aids in breathing.

The symptoms of trichinosis are at their most severe at about three weeks after infection, and decrease very slowly in their severity. Recovery is extremely gradual, and symptoms may last for as long as three months. Fatigue and muscle pain (myalgia) may take several more months to subside.
Diagnosis

An initial diagnosis of trichinosis relies heavily on the presence of its classic symptoms—swelling around the eyes, muscle inflammation, fever, and high levels of a certain type of white blood cell (eosinophils)—coupled with the patient's history. If the patient reports having eaten undercooked meat from an animal known to be a potential carrier of trichinosis, the doctor may order a muscle biopsy to confirm the diagnosis. By the third or fourth week of infection, muscle biopsies usually indicate the presence of larvae. Stool tests rarely reveal adult worms, although larvae can sometimes be found in blood or duodenal washings after the second week of infection. The blood test that is the most specific for trichinosis is the bentonite flocculation (BF) test.

T. spiralis can infect a number of different animal species used for food. The most common food culprit in the United States has been pork sausage, while outbreaks in Europe have caused by wild boar and horse meat. Outbreaks of trichinosis in Asia and Africa have been traced to dog meat, and outbreaks in Northern Canada have resulted from consumption of walrus and bear meat.
Treatment
Supportive care

Treatment of trichinosis is primarily aimed at decreasing the severity of the symptoms. Symptomatic relief includes bed rest and medications to relieve fever and muscle pain. The medications most commonly given are aspirin and nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). Steroids such as prednisone (Deltasone, Meticorten) are reserved for the most severe cases of muscle inflammation, or for complicated cases that include myocarditis.
Anthelminthic medications

In addition to medications for pain relief, trichinosis can be treated with drugs that are called anti-worm medications or anthelminthics. Two related anti-worm medications, mebendazole (Vermox) and thiabendazole (Mintezol), have been reported to be effective against intestinal larvae, but not against larvae encysted in the muscles. In particular, thiabendazole has worked best when given to patients who knew within 24 hours that they had eaten infested meat. Thiabendazole has, however, anti-inflammatory properties that can relieve some of the pain during the muscle stage of trichinosis.
Prognosis

The prognosis for recovery from trichinosis is generally good. Most people with the disease are unaware that they have even been infected. It is estimated that between 150,000 and 300,00 people in the United States become infected yearly, so that at any given time, 1.5 million people have T. spiralis infections. Most of these people have such light cases that trichinosis is never identified. Worm burden is measured in larvae per gram of muscle tissue; people with 10 or fewer larvae per gram of muscle tissue usually have no significant symptoms. When the number climbs to 100 larvae per gram of muscle tissue, the symptoms become noticeable. People with over 1000 larvae per gram of muscle tissue are usually extremely ill, and often die. The mortality rate of trichinosis is about 1%.
Prevention

Prevention of trichinosis is relatively simple. Swine should be fed only grain or cooked garbage because uncooked garbage may contain contaminated pork scraps. Meat from animals prone to trichinosis infection should be cooked or smoked thoroughly until it is no longer pink. Freezing meat at an adequately low temperature (5°F/-15°C for three weeks) can kill most encysted larvae, except for species which infect such arctic mammals as walrus or bear.
Resources
ORGANIZATIONS

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. 1600 Clifton Rd., NE, Atlanta, GA 30333. (800) 311-3435, (404) 639-3311. 〈http://www.cdc.gov〉.
KEY TERMS

Anthelminthic— A type of medication that is given to destroy or eliminate parasitic worms.

Cyst— In the life cycle of the round worm, a protective, walled-off capsule in which the larvae lie dormant.

Embryonic— In the life cycle of the round worm, a very early life stage occurring within the uterus of the female round worm.

Host— The animal within which a parasite lives, and from which the parasite receives its nutrition.

Inflammation— A reaction within the body to an invader (virus, bacteria, fungus, worm, etc.) or to tissue injury. The classic signs of inflammation include redness, heat, pain, and loss of function.

Larva— In the life cycle of the round worm, the second stage of life, sometimes considered the "adolescent" stage.

Nematode— A type of roundworm with a long, unsegmented body, usually parasitic on animals or plants.

Striated muscle— Also known as striped muscle; it includes muscles of the skeletal system and of the heart.

Trichina— An individual example of Trichinella spiralis.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/trichinosis.aspx

Im not saying ham has been "cured" but the BIG problem IMMO here is not the cured ham but rather the, "following the one in the center." For the book is there, but many sit and consume from the one in the center, rather than doing their own study.

Isayah 66:17, "They who sanctify themselves*, and purify themselves in the gardens, following after the "priest in the midst" of those who eat swine's flesh, that which is offered to gods and the rodent--will be consumed together: says Yahweh."

The Hebrew text renders this phrase: following the one in the center, rather than: one behind the other, as in the King James version. This ONE in the center is an idolatrous PRIEST or PREACHER. A Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament by Julius Furst, Page 1463.

Ezekiel 20:12, "Moreover, I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between Me and them, that they might know that *I am Yahweh Who sanctifies them."

*Sign is Word #226, Hebrew Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.

So much for obedience to what He says being evil huh?
 
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Are GMOs sanctified by prayer?...
1 Corinthians 10:25
Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience.


The only restrictions of food;

Acts 15:29
that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”


I know people will debate all of this constantly though, and some of it has to do with health reasons. But I know plenty of people who have lived just as long if not longer when eating pork, smoking cigarettes, and so on as those who don't. I know it may be damaging to the body if used as in the cigarettes, or misused as in the pork. Because I know some who eat pork and they are just as healthy of those who don't.
Plus my son's grandfather on his mothers side has never in is whole life eaten pork, and he is 67 and just recently had a heart attack this past year. My grandfather on the other hand lived to be 95, and he ate pork constantly and never once had a heart attack, high blood pressure, or any other aliments besides what normally comes with old age. And he was up and walking around normally tell the day he died, and me and the rest of my family believe he gave up on life in the flesh because his wife just died two years prior.....
 

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Thought about being a vegetarian, but then did some research into organically grown veggies and learned what is spread on the veggies as fertilizer.................sigh.........
 

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1 Corinthians 10:25
Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience.


The only restrictions of food;

Acts 15:29
that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”


I know people will debate all of this constantly though, and some of it has to do with health reasons. But I know plenty of people who have lived just as long if not longer when eating pork, smoking cigarettes, and so on as those who don't. I know it may be damaging to the body if used as in the cigarettes, or misused as in the pork. Because I know some who eat pork and they are just as healthy of those who don't.
Plus my son's grandfather on his mothers side has never in is whole life eaten pork, and he is 67 and just recently had a heart attack this past year. My grandfather on the other hand lived to be 95, and he ate pork constantly and never once had a heart attack, high blood pressure, or any other aliments besides what normally comes with old age. And he was up and walking around normally tell the day he died, and me and the rest of my family believe he gave up on life in the flesh because his wife just died two years prior.....
I have a friend who has had numerous serious surgeries to repair his body and is still a professional athlete, would he be a better athlete if he never got injured and had to have surgery?

All things are Lawful right? OK....

23“All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,” but not all things build up. 24Let no one seek his own good, but the good of his neighbor. 25Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience.

eat anything dont even look just throw down your gullet! lol freedom!

you guys are too much.

No pork can be used on an approved altar. What altar?
God emphasises our inner man (spirit), then the soul (mind), then the body of flesh.
Is Isayah 65 and 66 past, present or future?

Isayah 65
"I am sought by those who did not ask for Me; I am found by those who did not seek Me. I said: Here I am, here I am, to a nation that was not called with My Name. I have spread out My hands all the day to a rebellious people, who walk in a way which is not right, after their own thoughts; devices; A people who provoke Me to anger continually to My face; who sacrifice in gardens, and burn incense on altars of brick; Who assemble and spend the night keeping memorials for the dead, who eat swine's flesh, and the broth of abominable things, is in their vessels, Who say; Stand by yourself! Do not come near me, for I am holier than you! These are a smoke in My nostrils, a fire that burns all the day. Behold, it is written before Me; I will not keep silence, but will recompense, even recompense into their bosom--Your iniquities and the iniquities of your fathers together, says Yahweh: who have burned incense upon the mountains, and blasphemed Me upon the hills. Therefore I will measure their former work into their bosom. This is what Yahweh says: As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one says; Do not destroy it, for a blessing is in it; so will I do for My servants' sake, that I may not destroy them all. And I will bring forth a seed out of Yaaqob, and out of Yahdah an inheritor of My mountains; and My elect will inherit it, and My servants will live there. Sharon will be a fold of flocks, and the Valley of Achor a place for herds to lie down, for My people who have sought Me. But you are those who forsake Yahweh, who forget My holy mountain, who prepare a table for that troop and who furnish a drink offering for that number. Therefore, I will number you for the sword, and you will all bow down to the slaughter, because when I called, you did not answer; when I spoke, you did not listen; but did evil in front of My eyes, and you chose that in which I did not delight. Therefore, this is what Yahweh our Father says: Behold, My servants will eat, but you will be hungry. Behold, My servants will drink, but you will be thirsty. Behold, My servants will rejoice, but you will be ashamed. Behold, My servants will sing for joy of heart, but you will cry for sorrow of heart, and wail for vexation; grief, of spirit; And the names of your gods will remain as a trap; test, to My chosen; for Yahweh our Father will slay you, but he will give His servants a Name, that will remain forever; That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the power of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the power of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes.They have been adversaries from the beginning; therefore, they are hidden from My eyes. For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; and the former will not be remembered, nor come into mind. But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; for behold, I create Yerusalem as a rejoicing, and her people a joy. I will rejoice in Yerusalem, and rejoice in My people; the voice of weeping will no longer be heard in her, nor the voice of crying. No longer will there be in it an infant of only a few days, nor an old man who does not fill out his life; for the child will die a hundred years old, but the sinner being one hundred years old will be accursed; burned. They will build houses, and inhabit them; they will plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them. They will not build, and another inhabit; they will not plant, and another eat; for as the days of a tree, so will be the days of My people, and My elect will long enjoy the work of their hands. They will not labor in vain, nor bring forth children for trouble; destruction, for they are the seed of the blessed of Yahweh, and their offspring with them. It will come to pass that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear. The wolf and the lamb will feed together, the lion will eat straw like the ox, and dust will be the serpent's food. They will not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain: says Yahweh."

"broth of abominable things, is in their vessels"

"the children of Israyl bring an offering in a clean vessel"

Isayah 66:20-24, "And they will bring all your brothers for an offering to Yahweh--out of all nations, on horses, in chariots, and in litters, on mules, and on camels, to My holy mountain Yerusalem, says Yahweh: just as the children of Israyl bring an offering in a clean vessel into The Bayith Yahweh And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, says Yahweh. For as the new heavens and the new earth which I will make will remain before Me, says Yahweh: so will your seed and your name remain. And it will come to pass that from one New Moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, all flesh will come to worship before Me, says Yahweh. And they will go forth and look upon the carcasses of the men who have transgressed against Me; for their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched; and they will be an abhorrence to all flesh."
 

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Thought about being a vegetarian, but then did some research into organically grown veggies and learned what is spread on the veggies as fertilizer.................sigh.........
I know it hard to find non-contaminated food these days, but it is out there! It the "legal" regulation that allow there food providers to spray all this stuff on the food that needs to change.

Have you seen the "pink slime" and the bacterial "spray" they spray on meat to kill all the way worse bacteria from the anti-biotic resistant bacteria and such....

I HONESTLY feel like He does not want me to eat that stuff....

Id like to raise my own lambs or chickens, but im a city dweller....
 
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It appears possibly some folks rest their case against Acts 15 as a problem with a crusty relatively ignorant "Peter" the fisherman, and Paul the Pharisee. While the popular claim about Peter is nonsense if anyone believes God can make a person whatever He wants through revelation and study of scriptures, demonizing Paul on the basis of his party is a show of ignorance.
Like today there are Constitutional lawyers that attempt to decipher the treasured original scripts of our Founders, so was necessary the party of the Pharisees, who acted as litigators, while the priesthood was limited to recitation of the original scripts. Some Pharisees abused their duties, in effect adding to and changing established laws of Moses. Some Pharisees like Paul, who was made an apostle of Christ, took the law more literally with less interpretation until halted by the Lord Jesus on the road to Damascus. The result was an attempted extermination of Christians under the banner of purity of Judaism in Israel, and even outside Israel.

But Paul, having the credentials suitable to be a teacher of the law, counted his credentials but dung, waste, compared to his new ministry "credentials" of being called to the gospel of Christ instead of the law.

So what of Acts 15 and the declaration Gentiles will not be burdened with Moses other than specifically written in letters to the churches?

One either believes the word of God, or doesn't. Believing the old testament while rejecting parts of the new indicates one is an unbeliever. A 0%-1% unbeliever is an unbeliever of the gospel of Christ. That means obeying the Acts 15 commission. Can a person then retain requirement of the law of Moses and be in agreement with that? No! The challenge then was from Jews demanding that the Gentile believers keep the law of Moses and be circumcised. That was shot down. That includes any part of the law, including the dietary law. The most treasured two laws of the Ten Commandments were satisfied by Christ's law of love, greatly over-ruling commandments to love God and neighbor with higher ideals to not only love enemies, but pray for them, and do good to them, even lend to them. Moses didn't reach that heavenly goal, vowing vengeance and destruction of the enemies of Israel.
 

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But Paul, having the credentials suitable to be a teacher of the law, counted his credentials but dung, waste, compared to his new ministry "credentials" of being called to the gospel of Christ instead of the law.
man you twist Scripture something crazy...

as to the law, a Pharisee

rubbish (dung)

Pharisee = traditions of the elders....

Mattithyah 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them: And why do you transgress the Laws of Yahweh by your traditions?"

5circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the law, a Pharisee; 6as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to righteousness under the law,c blameless. 7But whatever gain I had, I counted as loss for the sake of Christ. 8Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ 9and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith— 10that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, 11that by any means possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead.