Disproving Biblical Infallibility 101
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He spells out the root word descended. He fails to pay attention to the other complete details that in no way agree. There is more to what we are talking about than the angel "descending", ie...when he spoke, the location from which he spoke, the time frame in which he spoke, and the whole slew of details mentioned in the OP.
Well its plain to see your quick to call someone foolish. Please tell me what is foolish about the truth? Truth is this- the scriptures are NOT infallible, and i have, in a school fashion- proved such. Any red blooded human who can read has admitted that there are differences there. What i am asking, is why.
If you do not have a legitimate statement or question- please keep your rude posts to yourself. Thank you.
If you do not have a legitimate statement or question- please keep your rude posts to yourself. Thank you.
If I can't trust one word in my Bible, what makes me trust the rest of it? This type of wrong thinking that you cannot trust every Word of God in your Bible is just a person wanting to doubt God's Word. You either believe all of it or you don't. God's Word is not something we get to pick and choose in what we want to believe in. This is how Biblical cults are formed. For it takes faith to believe in all of God's Word. Whatever you choose not to believe in Scripture, the seed of the Word will not find it's place in your heart so as to produce fruit.
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The people were so in awe of what transpired they were unable to gather their thoughts completely accurately, yet the bottom line remains the same, Christ is Risen. The Disciples were killed for their testimonies; Peter allowed himself to be crucified upside down for crying out loud. If Christ's Resurrection did not happen don't you think they would have fessed up? Christ is Risen! Deal with it!
Regarding Saul's conversion:
And the men who journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice but seeing no one.
Acts 9:7
And those who were with me indeed saw the light and were afraid,[SUP] [/SUP]but they did not hear the voice of Him who spoke to me. Acts 22:9
Saul's conversion is factual regardless of possible discrepancies in its account.
Faith -- you either have it or you don't, and Jesus is Lord, regardless.
And the men who journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice but seeing no one.
Acts 9:7
And those who were with me indeed saw the light and were afraid,[SUP] [/SUP]but they did not hear the voice of Him who spoke to me. Acts 22:9
Saul's conversion is factual regardless of possible discrepancies in its account.
Faith -- you either have it or you don't, and Jesus is Lord, regardless.
Hi DiscileAG,
Thank you for your comments, I am very aware of the resurrection narratives.
Just imagine you where at a football (soccer) match, and on each stand (north,east,south and west) there was a reporter. Now, the four reporters had to write a running commentary for their respective newspaper sports column of the football match they had just watched. Would each report be the exact same word for word? of course not! Yet all four reporters would describe the same 90 minutes of hopefully good football as it was played and all the maybe 40 - 60 thousand fans could read these four accounts and agree with the different reports of the same match!
Matt gives us a nice fuller account.. Mark gives us the same version but it has been edited down (most agree Mark was written first) as his gospel is short and concise. John John doesn't even mention the earthquake or the rolling back of the stone nor mentions Mary the mother of James and salome yet his account is in agreement..and Luke cuts parts that are in the other gospels and add some detail aswell. Four different accounts of the same episode written in a different way.
What you neglect DiscilePAG is the main thrust of the four narratives at this point and that is..
He is Risen
Update: I forgot to mention I would be very worried about the validity of the narrative text we are referring to if they all said the exact same thing in the exact same manner...can you remember being in school...how did the teacher know if someone cheated??? where not the exam papers the exact same?
Thank you for your comments, I am very aware of the resurrection narratives.
Just imagine you where at a football (soccer) match, and on each stand (north,east,south and west) there was a reporter. Now, the four reporters had to write a running commentary for their respective newspaper sports column of the football match they had just watched. Would each report be the exact same word for word? of course not! Yet all four reporters would describe the same 90 minutes of hopefully good football as it was played and all the maybe 40 - 60 thousand fans could read these four accounts and agree with the different reports of the same match!
Matt gives us a nice fuller account.. Mark gives us the same version but it has been edited down (most agree Mark was written first) as his gospel is short and concise. John John doesn't even mention the earthquake or the rolling back of the stone nor mentions Mary the mother of James and salome yet his account is in agreement..and Luke cuts parts that are in the other gospels and add some detail aswell. Four different accounts of the same episode written in a different way.
What you neglect DiscilePAG is the main thrust of the four narratives at this point and that is..
He is Risen
Update: I forgot to mention I would be very worried about the validity of the narrative text we are referring to if they all said the exact same thing in the exact same manner...can you remember being in school...how did the teacher know if someone cheated??? where not the exam papers the exact same?
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