Disproving Biblical Infallibility 101

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Why, is the verse not true? Isn't all scripture INSPIRED by God? and profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness?
You're asking the wrong person. I asked DPag.
 
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Why, is the verse not true? Isn't all scripture INSPIRED by God? and profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness?



It's becoming more and more common/acceptable for people on here to resort to name-calling and claiming spiritual authority over others. Totally different from the love when I first joined.

For some reason, a lot of people on here feel threatened when they can't come up with answers right off the bat, so they feel that YOU must be the problem haha. All questions are answered eventually. Just give God time (and prayer). I guess people feel that some new question is going to pop up 2000 years later that's going to dismantle their faith.
THERE WILL BE MOCKERS OF GOD IN THE LAST DAYS, lovers of self, highminded....having a form of Godlines but denying the power thereof.
 
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You're asking the wrong person. I asked DPag.
So, should we dispose of any scripture? I do not know the answer to that, but i suppose much of the repitition could be trimmed without adversely affecting it? The Romans saw fit to choose what to include and what to discredit....It has been plainly shown that political motivations are responsible for the appearance of some of the scriptures in the KJV bible, as they do not appear in old text? Who is to say the romans even got it right? I mean, we can plainly see they included writings that were contradictory, so...
 
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Everone here can see the holes in your argumental position- however, it does not change the truth- these two accounts do not agree. At all.
Wrong. . .

Lets narrow it down a little and maybe help you grasp it....in one account they grab Jesus by the feet, in the other they are not allowed to touch Him- this is a direct contradiction. Please explain.
Why don't you do your own research among those who have addressed these questions?

These are two separate events. What contradiction?

Mary Magdalene went by herself very early in the day on her first trip, where Jesus asked why she was crying.
Jesus told her "Do not hold on to me. . ."
There would be more opportunity to see Jesus before his ascension, and after his crucifixion she cannot keep him with her now except through the Holy Spirit.
Mary then went to the disciples with the news.

On another trip at dawn she went with company.
Jesus did not tell them not to hold on to him.
You will have to ask Jesus why his response was different to thwm than it was to Magdalene alone.

Perhaps John's intent in presenting the first visit of Mary alone was to show that woman was the first to believe the angel as she was the first to believe Satan in the garden.

Keep in mind that discrepancies only matter when they are material.

Immaterial discrepancies do not alter the divine truth of Scripture and are irrelevant to faith in revealed divine truth.
 
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Wrong. . .


Why don't you do your own research among those who have addressed these questions?

These are two separate events. What contradiction?
LIE.

Mary Magdalene went by herself very early in the day on her first trip, where Jesus asked why she was crying.
Jesus told her "Do not hold on to me. . ."
There would be more opportunity to see Jesus before his ascension, and after his crucifixion she cannot keep him with her now except through the Holy Spirit.
Mary then went to the disciples with the news.
LIE. The women made ONE TRIP!!

On another trip at dawn she went with company.
Jesus did not tell them not to hold on to him.
You will have to ask Jesus why his response was different to thwm than it was to Magdalene alone.


Jesus said you cannot touch me because i have not yet ascended.

Explain that considering he allows them to touch him in the other account, and the ascension had not yet happened. CONTRADICTION RIGHT THERE.

Perhaps John's intent in presenting the first visit of Mary alone was to show that woman was the first to believe the angel as she was the first to believe Satan in the garden.

Keep in mind that discrepancies only matter when they are material.

Immaterial discrepancies do not alter the divine truth of Scripture and are irrelevant to faith in revealed divine truth.
SEEMS TO ME YOUR FINALLY AGREEING THERE ARE IMMATERIAL DISCREPANCIES.
 
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There is no replacement for truth. Accepting a blinder is NOT acceptable in this situation.
All Scripture is God-breathed (2Tim 3:16).

The infallibility of the Bible is not provable to atheists.
The Bible can be proven to be neither true nor untrue.
Both are a matter of faith.

It is faith in God's providential preservation of his divine truth for his people.

And its non-provability is by God's design.

There will always be reasons not to trust and believe it for those who are looking for them.

The Bible is not about proof, it's about faith.

You can't prove it to anyone else, you can only believe it.
 
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So sorry you don't have faith that God preserves his divine truth uncorrupted. . .I pity you for the consequences of that.
I have faith in Jesus and his saving grace, i have faith that sanctified living is pleasing to God. Dont need faith in the writings of man at that point. Useful for teaching from? Sure. Cant be saved without it?? NOT SO MUCH. You could do well to organize your spiritual priorities a bit better and realize this fact of fallibility we have proven DOES NOT affect your salvation, rather it focuses us more on the details that matter, and those are plainly this:
JESUS CHRIST BORN, DIED, and RESSURECTED. Nothing more.
Sorry, it is not for you to trim the sail of God's divine truth to fit the jib of your unbelief of all of it.
 
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Sorry, it is not for you to trim the sail of God's divine truth to fit the jib of your unbelief of all of it.
Quoting Paul: "I permit NOT a woman to teach or usurp authority over a man." - so nice to see you avoid scriptural commandments in all of your infallible glory.
 
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THERE WILL BE MOCKERS OF GOD IN THE LAST DAYS, lovers of self, highminded....having a form of Godlines but denying the power thereof.
You're quoting a "fallible" document.
 

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So, should we dispose of any scripture? I do not know the answer to that, but i suppose much of the repitition could be trimmed without adversely affecting it? The Romans saw fit to choose what to include and what to discredit....It has been plainly shown that political motivations are responsible for the appearance of some of the scriptures in the KJV bible, as they do not appear in old text? Who is to say the romans even got it right? I mean, we can plainly see they included writings that were contradictory, so...
And who pray tell, shall do the trimming? Some egghead university professors who have declared certain portions of Scripture to be untrue, only to find out that archeological finds have proven them liars? Or should it be a godless dictator declaring all Jews unfit to be humans and thus excising all references of Jewishness out of Scripture? Who?
 
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So, should we dispose of any scripture? I do not know the answer to that, but i suppose much of the repitition could be trimmed without adversely affecting it? The Romans saw fit to choose what to include and what to discredit....It has been plainly shown that political motivations are responsible for the appearance of some of the scriptures in the KJV bible, as they do not appear in old text? Who is to say the romans even got it right? I mean, we can plainly see they included writings that were contradictory, so...
Yep. . .unbelief in the providence of God to preserve his truth uncorrupted for his people.

You've got another authority in mind to establish over God's word written.

The smart money says it is a subjective authority.
 
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Quoting Paul: "I permit NOT a woman to teach or usurp authority over a man." - so nice to see you avoid scriptural commandments in all of your infallible glory.
You might want to check the context of that passage. . .(hint: Priscilla)
 
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This thread is becoming disgusting. New topic. Lets talk about Spiderman

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