Reprobate is not a translation of adokimos but a theological interpretation. Something which is adokimos is 'tested and found wanting'. In what way it is found wanting must be determined by the context. And the context in 1 Cor 9.27 makes clear that Paul is talking about receiving a prize. Salvation is never seen as a prize to be won, it is seen as a gift to be received without works, (in context without even running in the race). What Paul was concerned about was Christians not receiving maximum benefit from running with Christ. The runners who failed to 'win' were 'disapproved'. They had not obtained the prize. But they were still runners in the race. They were not outsiders. They finished the race (they were not dropouts) but they did not obtain the prize that was on offer.
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Disqualified would be a theological interpretation. Again, in most all places adokimos is translated "reprobate" for that is what the Greek word means.
2 Cor 13:5 "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be adokimos?"
In this verse, being "in the faith" and "Christ is in you" is set in CONTRAST to adokimos. So a 'contextual definition' of adokimos is one that is not in the faith and Christ is not in him. So whatever English word you choose to use for adokimos, it must include the idea of NOT being in the faith and Christ NOT being in that person. Reprobate would be a perfect English word to describe one not in the faith and one who does not have Christ in him. Paul was not exempt from examining himself either (bring in subjection) lest he find himself 'not in the faith' and 'Christ not in him', that is, find himself adokimos.
After Paul says "I myself should be a reprobate" Paul then in 1 Cor 10:1 begins with the word 'moreover' showing that Paul is continuing that same thought into chapter 10 where Paul gives OT examples of reprobates then gives the admonishment "Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall." v12. After Paul says he could become a reprobate he gives examples of OT reprobates and those OT examples speak nothing about being "disqualified" from some thing yet maintain salvation but speaks of those that were destroyed:
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Rom 1:28 "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a adokimos mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"
Who has an adokimos mind? those that do not retain God in their knowledge and that do unseemly things.... which describes a reprobate.
Titus 1:16 "They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work adokimos."
Who is an adokimos? He that denies God proven by his abominable and disobedient works...a reprobate
2 Tim 3:8 "Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, adokimos concerning the faith."
Who is an adokimos? He who resists the truth, has a corrupt mind concerning the faith....a reprobate.
Rom 1:28 "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a adokimos mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"
Who has an adokimos mind? those that do not retain God in their knowledge and that do unseemly things.... which describes a reprobate.
Titus 1:16 "They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work adokimos."
Who is an adokimos? He that denies God proven by his abominable and disobedient works...a reprobate
2 Tim 3:8 "Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, adokimos concerning the faith."
Who is an adokimos? He who resists the truth, has a corrupt mind concerning the faith....a reprobate.
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It appears you learned a new Greek word. It also appears you didn't adequately learn its meaning.
adokimoß (adokimos) is an adjective. No one can "be" an "adokimoß or "have" an "adokimoß." It is a term coined by metallurgists. It refers to an impure metal, particularly gold or silver. It doesn't "measure up." It doesn't "pass the test."
Someone who doesn't "measure up" has already rejected the truth, rejected God, rejected faith. The state of depravity is the result of a final decision to reject truth, God, faith. It is a condition incomprehensible and impossible for a follower of Christ to realize. All your posted verses refer to those who have never believed despite being presented with the Gospel.
adokimoß (adokimos) is an adjective. No one can "be" an "adokimoß or "have" an "adokimoß." It is a term coined by metallurgists. It refers to an impure metal, particularly gold or silver. It doesn't "measure up." It doesn't "pass the test."
Someone who doesn't "measure up" has already rejected the truth, rejected God, rejected faith. The state of depravity is the result of a final decision to reject truth, God, faith. It is a condition incomprehensible and impossible for a follower of Christ to realize. All your posted verses refer to those who have never believed despite being presented with the Gospel.
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Philippians 3:14*"I press on toward the goal to win the*prize*for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus."
The prize was knowing Christ and the power of His resurrection. He is talking about the transformation. Sin separates us from that, many will say and do and drive demons in God's name, but that doesn't make them chosen.
GOD DOESN'T LISTEN TO SINNERS, HE LISTENS TO THOSE WHO DO HIS WILL.....so what is his will? Sinners are not doing his will, trying not to sin, now that is the will of the Father.
You want to honor the sacrifice for sin, live as a living sacrifice in remembrance of the one who died for you.
Paul said do whatever you want, but if you are a slave to your body, then you live according to the flesh, and are not regarded as God's child.
By the spirit Paul was referencing putting to death the sinful nature, the body he beat he was now in control of, that flesh no longer controlled him. He was referencing being led by the spirit and doing what it desires, as opposed to being a slave to sin and the flesh.
The prize was knowing Christ and his resurrection into Heaven, being transformed and also taken up in Glory. That is the mystery of Christ, 'Christ in you, the hope of Glory'.
Only sin separates one from that prize.
The prize was knowing Christ and the power of His resurrection. He is talking about the transformation. Sin separates us from that, many will say and do and drive demons in God's name, but that doesn't make them chosen.
GOD DOESN'T LISTEN TO SINNERS, HE LISTENS TO THOSE WHO DO HIS WILL.....so what is his will? Sinners are not doing his will, trying not to sin, now that is the will of the Father.
You want to honor the sacrifice for sin, live as a living sacrifice in remembrance of the one who died for you.
Paul said do whatever you want, but if you are a slave to your body, then you live according to the flesh, and are not regarded as God's child.
By the spirit Paul was referencing putting to death the sinful nature, the body he beat he was now in control of, that flesh no longer controlled him. He was referencing being led by the spirit and doing what it desires, as opposed to being a slave to sin and the flesh.
The prize was knowing Christ and his resurrection into Heaven, being transformed and also taken up in Glory. That is the mystery of Christ, 'Christ in you, the hope of Glory'.
Only sin separates one from that prize.
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Philippians 3:20-" But our citizenship*is in heaven.And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,*
And HERE IS THE PRIZE...
****21*who, by the power*that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies*so that they will be like his glorious body.***
Now that is a prize...
Colossians 1:27*"To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the*hope of glory."
The hope of glory, the glorious image of the one coming is the very glory we will be transformed into. Eternal life and being transformed into the image of the man from heaven, now that's mother of all prizes.
And HERE IS THE PRIZE...
****21*who, by the power*that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies*so that they will be like his glorious body.***
Now that is a prize...
Colossians 1:27*"To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the*hope of glory."
The hope of glory, the glorious image of the one coming is the very glory we will be transformed into. Eternal life and being transformed into the image of the man from heaven, now that's mother of all prizes.
There is NO WAY to backslide from a saved condition to a lost condition!
Jn 3:36
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
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Jn 5:24
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
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Jn 6:46-47
46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
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The Scriptures cited above clearly indicate that saving faith confers everlasting life immediately, NOT at some future time.
Since I have everlasting life now; there is nothing I can do to loose it; since if I could loose it; it would not have been everlasting while I had it.
It is possible to temporarily backslide from habitually following the Holy Spirit to following the flesh.
Doing so brings God's chastisement. Persistence in following the flesh will cause a believer to be taken out of his/her earthly life early and often painfully.
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He beat his body and made it his slave. It's pretty easy to see he is talking about not being a slave to the Sin and flesh.
Him beating his body and making it his slave, is a direct contradiction to those who live by the flesh and are a slave to their body.
A man is a slave to whichever one he serves.
He was describing how he was a slave to God, the spirit that controlled his mind and had overcame the power of sin in his flesh and had learned how to control that.
Sin is the opposite of holy. Sin disqualifies one for the prize.
Him beating his body and making it his slave, is a direct contradiction to those who live by the flesh and are a slave to their body.
A man is a slave to whichever one he serves.
He was describing how he was a slave to God, the spirit that controlled his mind and had overcame the power of sin in his flesh and had learned how to control that.
Sin is the opposite of holy. Sin disqualifies one for the prize.
One cannot backslide from a saved condition into a saved condition for they would be no change and that would mean there would be no such thing as backsliding.
---In the verses cited, the verbs 'heareth' and 'believeth' are present tense denoting an ongoing, sustained action and not a one time action or sporadic action. As long as one CONDITIONALLY maintains this present tense hearing and believing he will not come into condemnation but if he quits hearing and believing he will come into condemnation.
---1 Jn 2:15 "And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life." John say eternal life is a promise and a promise is something not yet realized.
Mk 10:30 "But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life." Mark says eternal life is not now but in the world to come.
---Heb 12:7 one may not endure God's chastisement, while some reject it altogether.
---In the verses cited, the verbs 'heareth' and 'believeth' are present tense denoting an ongoing, sustained action and not a one time action or sporadic action. As long as one CONDITIONALLY maintains this present tense hearing and believing he will not come into condemnation but if he quits hearing and believing he will come into condemnation.
---1 Jn 2:15 "And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life." John say eternal life is a promise and a promise is something not yet realized.
Mk 10:30 "But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life." Mark says eternal life is not now but in the world to come.
---Heb 12:7 one may not endure God's chastisement, while some reject it altogether.
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Heb 8:12 says that God will be merciful to their unrighteousness, not to their repentance or confession of sin, but to their unrighteousness. The cross is the propitiation of our sins, it is the mercy seat with the blood applied and that was for our sins and iniquity. What so many of you fail to see is that mercy comes first and it is for the wicked and the unrighteousness of men. Mercy is putting away what we deserve and grace is giving us what we do not deserve. Mercy and grace is for unrighteous men and not for the righteous. God came not for the righteous but for sinners.
His cross was not for the righteous but for lost sinners. God be merciful to me a sinner, that is the cry of the unrighteous sinner. We may fall and backslide because of the flesh but we will never be utterly cast down because of mercy that has placed us in Christ. There is no falling put of that place because we stand in grace and God will always be able to make us stand no matter how much we may backslide. Our backsliding state will correct us (Jer 2:19). What great hope we have from the Lord, how faithful he is to those who belong to him. He will never forsake of leave them, NO NEVER, NO NEVER, NO NEVER.
His cross was not for the righteous but for lost sinners. God be merciful to me a sinner, that is the cry of the unrighteous sinner. We may fall and backslide because of the flesh but we will never be utterly cast down because of mercy that has placed us in Christ. There is no falling put of that place because we stand in grace and God will always be able to make us stand no matter how much we may backslide. Our backsliding state will correct us (Jer 2:19). What great hope we have from the Lord, how faithful he is to those who belong to him. He will never forsake of leave them, NO NEVER, NO NEVER, NO NEVER.
You are very clearly weak on grammar. The meaning of a word must always be determined by the context. In 2 Cor 13.5 the context is whether Christ is in you or not. The word adokimos means tested and found wanting. Thus in that context AND IN THAT CONTEXT ONLY it means that they have been tested to discover whether Christ is in them, and have been found wanting.
But in 1 Cor 9.27 that is not the context. The context there is whether a person will achieve his utmost. Paul wants to be found to have achieved his utmost, and he wants the same for his readers. He doesn't want he or them to be second class. Thus in that case adokimos means that someone may have been tested and found wanting. Whilst still accepted by God they have been tested as to whether they have achieved their utmost and have failed. It has nothing to do with salvation.
Marks for grammar 0/10. You must do better.
But in 1 Cor 9.27 that is not the context. The context there is whether a person will achieve his utmost. Paul wants to be found to have achieved his utmost, and he wants the same for his readers. He doesn't want he or them to be second class. Thus in that case adokimos means that someone may have been tested and found wanting. Whilst still accepted by God they have been tested as to whether they have achieved their utmost and have failed. It has nothing to do with salvation.
Marks for grammar 0/10. You must do better.
Your theological bias is at play here.
There is no contextual, grammatical, exegetical, biblical reason that 'adokimos' means anything different in 1 Cor 9:27 than what it means in the other verses as 2 Cor 13:5. Reprobate = NOT in faith and Christ NOT in you.
Paul is making a comparison between being a Christian and running a race and winning the Christian race is salvation.
One enters the Christian race when he/she becomes a Christian but just entering the race does not guarantee salvation. Just participating in the race and running does not guarantee salvation. To be saved (win the prize) one must win the race finishing it. Again, just entering the race does not win the prize, just running the race does not win the prize but finishing the race winning gets the prize. And the prize Paul talks about is SALVATION, an incorruptible crown (1 Pet 1:4; 2 Tim 4:8), as the 'prize' in Phil 3:14 is salvation. Paul knew that if he does not finish the race due to becoming a reprobate, then he will not finish the race failing to win the prize of salvation. Those that do not finish the Christian race are apostates, reprobates that are lost.
Again, no one is guaranteed salvation/the prize of an incorruptible crown just for entering the race (becoming a Christian) but one must conditionally finish the race ( be thou faithful unto death, and I will give the a crown of life) to receive the prize of salvation. Paul did not say one is saved (wins the prize) just for entering the race.
There is no contextual, grammatical, exegetical, biblical reason that 'adokimos' means anything different in 1 Cor 9:27 than what it means in the other verses as 2 Cor 13:5. Reprobate = NOT in faith and Christ NOT in you.
Paul is making a comparison between being a Christian and running a race and winning the Christian race is salvation.
One enters the Christian race when he/she becomes a Christian but just entering the race does not guarantee salvation. Just participating in the race and running does not guarantee salvation. To be saved (win the prize) one must win the race finishing it. Again, just entering the race does not win the prize, just running the race does not win the prize but finishing the race winning gets the prize. And the prize Paul talks about is SALVATION, an incorruptible crown (1 Pet 1:4; 2 Tim 4:8), as the 'prize' in Phil 3:14 is salvation. Paul knew that if he does not finish the race due to becoming a reprobate, then he will not finish the race failing to win the prize of salvation. Those that do not finish the Christian race are apostates, reprobates that are lost.
Again, no one is guaranteed salvation/the prize of an incorruptible crown just for entering the race (becoming a Christian) but one must conditionally finish the race ( be thou faithful unto death, and I will give the a crown of life) to receive the prize of salvation. Paul did not say one is saved (wins the prize) just for entering the race.
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