Disrespectful Women

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Femalelamb

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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]Some good scripture to help.

Ephesians 5:22-33 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church, because we are members of his body. “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” This mystery is profound, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church. However, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]Colossians 3:18-19 Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them. [/COLOR]
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]1 Peter 3:1-18 Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives, when they see your respectful and pure conduct. Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious. For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands, as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. And you are her children, if you do good and do not fear anything that is frightening. Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered. Finally, all of you, have unity of mind, sympathy, brotherly love, a tender heart, and a humble mind. Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing. For“Whoever desires to love lifeand see good days,let him keep his tongue from eviland his lips from speaking deceit; let him turn away from evil and do good;let him seek peace and pursue it. For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous,and his ears are open to their prayer.But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.” Now who is there to harm you if you are zealous for what is good? But even if you should suffer for righteousness' sake, you will be blessed. Have no fear of them, nor be troubled, but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect, having a good conscience, so that, when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame. For it is better to suffer for doing good, if that should be God's will, than for doing evil. For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, [/COLOR]
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skylove7

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#42
I think everyone has the right to an opinion here...married or single!

Its simple really....be loving and kind....do not marry for money...do not cheat. Above ALL.... live in Christ! I mean its not rocket science! But two hearts must have mutual love and affectionate respect for each other...or any marriage will be doomed!
 
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atwhatcost

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#43
Some thoughts from a woman who just checked if hubby doubts my respect. (He doesn't.)
1. Respect is earned. It's not a given.
2. No good reason to marry a person if you don't respect him/her.
3. I used him/her there, because respect is also a two way street.
4. A wife isn't biblically responsible for respecting a husband. She's biblically bound to submit. Who's stupid enough to be bound to submit if there is no respect?
5. The second a person writes something like this, "
THIS POST IS NOT MEANT TO OFFEND OR BE FOUGHT OVER IT JUST GETS UNDER MY SKIN WHEN I SEE WOMEN WHO ACT DISRESPECTFUL TO THEIR HUSBAND." I instantly know it's all about offending. Those are the opening words of an offender. Been there. Ignored them too.
6. Other wives aren't your responsibility.
7. Know your audience. This whole sermon is based on the stupidity of women, and how we need a strong man to teach us because we're such wretched creatures. Sorry. You're not my husband. (And I'm not really sorry about that at all.) You're not God either. I have no reason to submit to your teachings, especially given you have no idea who I am.

Want to teach something? Teach how men are supposed to love their wives. On that, if you are married, you bear some authority on the subject. Because you do, it is less likely you will treat men like they're stupid.
 

MarcR

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#44
Well I suppose you and I disagree then. The scripture do say this but they also say to treat each other as you want to be treated there are many scriptures speaking on respecting each other treating each other with love.

Love each other with genuine affection, and take delight in honoring each other. Romans 12:10

Philippians 2:3
Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves,

1 Peter 2:17
Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.

There are many more like I said it's not a one way street. If anyone deems a man more important more valuable or better than a woman then they don't understand how God sees us
Eph 5:15-25
15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
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Col 3:16-24
16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.
20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.
22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
KJV
 
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mikeuk

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#45
I'd be happy with a woman who could make good chili, and who is not covetous of the remote control. Somebody who understands the type of organization that lends to easily finding things around the home, like not having to run through a list of possibilities where things like Scotch tape may have gotten to. Maybe also somebody who doesn't own a copy of "Sleepless in Seattle." Some things are more important than respect.
I think you are describing a housekeeper, or slave, not a wife!
My wife and I think of each other as equals, we are a we, not a him and a her.

Could be why it has lasted since I met her at 15, 5 years later we married, and forty years on we love each other more than ever.... But then, I do most of the cooking and a fair share of cleaning the place!
I grieve for the stories I read on here of unfaithful husbands, some no doubt born of the belief of the husband that he is the senior partner, so decides how it is going to be, which attitude is clearly demeaning to his wife.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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#46
and yet again, all those who quite "views submit to your husbands" fail to add this very simple line

21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
 
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With all due respect (see what I did there?), there is a huge difference in knowledge and understanding. You can equate that between having never having been married and having been married. It's gonna look differently than you think it will, it'll walk out differently than you think it will, and your understanding of it one year into a marriage will be different than your view of it at five, or ten, or fifteen years (etc).

I'm not intending to dismiss those who have never married. I respect that you are seeking to follow God wholeheartedly in this. I will just tell you that it works out in application differently than you expect.

I loved and honored my husband, he was the head of our house. He cherished and protected me. We respected each other. (And in the event anyone wants to make it a part of the argument... I am a widow)
 
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jennymae

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#48
I loved and honored my husband, he was the head of our house. He cherished and protected me. We respected each other. (And in the event anyone wants to make it a part of the argument... I am a widow)
I think what you are saying here is wonderful. I just wanted to let you know:). And I'm sorry for your loss.
 
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psychomom

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#50
did someone call me? :)

(sorry, folks....jumped in at the end without reading again :eek:)
 
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JesusIsAll

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#51
I think you are describing a housekeeper, or slave, not a wife!
My wife and I think of each other as equals, we are a we, not a him and a her.
You would think that, of what is simply a lighthearted comment, more intended for somebody who may not take themselves so seriously as to be oblivious. Why don't you go back to the Catholic thread and denigrate the Holy Bible some more?
 

Blain

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#52
Ok so let me get this straight the man has the authority over his wife so she has to do what he says? That doesn't sound right that sounds more like ownership than love. I believe the man is responsible for taking care of his wife
 

maxwel

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#53
I'd be happy with a woman who could make good chili, and who is not covetous of the remote control. Somebody who understands the type of organization that lends to easily finding things around the home, like not having to run through a list of possibilities where things like Scotch tape may have gotten to. Maybe also somebody who doesn't own a copy of "Sleepless in Seattle." Some things are more important than respect.
That's why men are supposed to be the leaders...
this is a requirement for church leadership:

1Ti 3:2-3
2) A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3) Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous of the remote;
 

jsr1221

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#54
That's why men are supposed to be the leaders...
this is a requirement for church leadership:

1Ti 3:2-3
2) A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3) Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous of the remote;
To be fair, you can't control someone else's actions. She could be really, really good at having a double life. Hear about stories like these. Granted, a strong Christian woman wouldn't do something like that. But still. Men can't completely control what their wives do. Just like women can't completely control what their husbands do. That's where the trust factor comes in.
 
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the bible gives simple instructions for men, women, children, servants, slaves, horses, cows, visitors, travelers, and so on.
the world disagrees with the bible.
the church of the world disagrees with the bible.
the ekklesia of yahweh in union with yahshua agrees with the bible.
 
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sassylady

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#57
It says in Proverbs "a wise woman builds her house, but a foolish one plucks it down with her own hands".
 
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JesusIsAll

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#58
To be fair, you can't control someone else's actions. She could be really, really good at having a double life. Hear about stories like these. Granted, a strong Christian woman wouldn't do something like that. But still. Men can't completely control what their wives do. Just like women can't completely control what their husbands do. That's where the trust factor comes in.
Absolutely. Both must be willing to be obedient, sometimes nothing in the universe one can do to ensure the primacy of the leading of the Holy Spirit, in a spouse or anybody's life. This is not within our power, and there are things prayer won't fix, though we must always try, must always hope and pray, when there's reason for hope. But it's evident the Lord does not make robots, and even a Christian can resist His perfect will. Scripture is all wonderful, what can be problematic is people taking all of it seriously.
 
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JesusIsAll

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#59
That's why men are supposed to be the leaders...
this is a requirement for church leadership:

1Ti 3:2-3
2) A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3) Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous of the remote;
And it all looks great on paper, but have you ever tried to take a bone from man's best friend? (Please, that wasn't meant as an exact analogy, just the best I could do at the moment.)
 
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atwhatcost

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#60
You would think that, of what is simply a lighthearted comment, more intended for somebody who may not take themselves so seriously as to be oblivious. Why don't you go back to the Catholic thread and denigrate the Holy Bible some more?
Have you yet married the woman who is the complete opposite of what you wanted? I remember my list for what I wanted in a husband, (right down to a guy who can get into chick flicks. lol) I didn't get that guy. I got the exact opposite guy. I got the right guy. :D