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Right, that is neglected a lot concerning those that claim Christ that they divorce, and remarry, and it is not for adultery, as if it is no big deal.
But when they marry they become one flesh, so that is an important relationship that should not be broken, and what God has put together let no man put asunder.
Like the saints become one with Jesus is an important relationship that should not be broken, a man and a woman that become one in marriage is an important relationship that should not be broken.
And if they divorce, and it is not because of adultery then they cannot remarry, and it does not matter if they were abused, neglected, was not happy in the marriage after a certain time, for there is no excuse to get remarried unless it is adultery.
If the many people that claim Christ went by the truth concerning marriage, there would be a lot of single adults that could not be remarried for many remarry and it is not for adultery, unless their spouse died.
How many that claim Christ would be single right now, and not married, if they went by the truth that they cannot remarry unless it was adultery, which it would be millions of people, but the rate of those who divorce that go to Church statistically is less than the world.
Oh we are alright they say for our sins do not affect our relationship with God, and we cannot abstain from sin, which is strange to say coming from someone that claims Christ because the Bible says if they hate sin, and do not want sin, they can abstain from sin by the Spirit.
And if they remarried and it is not for adultery, and marry another, then they are committing adultery the whole time they are married to that person, which they are living in sin, but they think they are alright with God.
And some even go ahead and marry three times, and the first 2 were not for adultery.
It is too bad, so sad, if their marriage is bad, for they still cannot remarry unless it is for adultery, and they wanted to play the game so they are stuck with it, which maybe people should take more time to get to know who there are going to marry.
But of course it is a different world now, and it is like playing the lottery for you do not know what you are getting, and people hide their flaws and they do not come out until later, for everybody is on their best behavior when they first get together, for if they were not on their best behavior people would not get together, and the flaws come out later.
Which Jesus said since iniquity shall abound the love of many shall wax cold, which people are more selfish, and arrogant, than in time past.
Technology is the culprit.
Before technology people were basically on the same level, and people viewed people as being basically decent, and caring, and they knew who they were getting in marriage, and trust up high.
But after technology, and time progressed, people pursued the things that advanced, money, and material things in abundance, and selfishness, and arrogance, went up a lot, and people not on the same level, and trust down, and people stopped caring for each other as much, so they do not know what they will get today in marriage for they do not know for sure, for it might take a turn for the worse in the technological times.
So there will be a lot of divorces, and people not getting along, but it is still no excuse for they cannot divorce unless it is for adultery.
Your spouse physically abused you, no divorce for you.
Your spouse bled you dry of all the 10 million dollars you had in the bank that you accumulated before marriage, and was not even sorry for it, no divorce for you.
Your spouse is a raging alcoholic that is mean like the dickens, and cuts you down, and your friends, no divorce for you.
But divorce for adultery is okay because they broke the covenant between them, and if it is not because of adultery then you cannot divorce, but must remain single until your spouse dies.
But when they marry they become one flesh, so that is an important relationship that should not be broken, and what God has put together let no man put asunder.
Like the saints become one with Jesus is an important relationship that should not be broken, a man and a woman that become one in marriage is an important relationship that should not be broken.
And if they divorce, and it is not because of adultery then they cannot remarry, and it does not matter if they were abused, neglected, was not happy in the marriage after a certain time, for there is no excuse to get remarried unless it is adultery.
If the many people that claim Christ went by the truth concerning marriage, there would be a lot of single adults that could not be remarried for many remarry and it is not for adultery, unless their spouse died.
How many that claim Christ would be single right now, and not married, if they went by the truth that they cannot remarry unless it was adultery, which it would be millions of people, but the rate of those who divorce that go to Church statistically is less than the world.
Oh we are alright they say for our sins do not affect our relationship with God, and we cannot abstain from sin, which is strange to say coming from someone that claims Christ because the Bible says if they hate sin, and do not want sin, they can abstain from sin by the Spirit.
And if they remarried and it is not for adultery, and marry another, then they are committing adultery the whole time they are married to that person, which they are living in sin, but they think they are alright with God.
And some even go ahead and marry three times, and the first 2 were not for adultery.
It is too bad, so sad, if their marriage is bad, for they still cannot remarry unless it is for adultery, and they wanted to play the game so they are stuck with it, which maybe people should take more time to get to know who there are going to marry.
But of course it is a different world now, and it is like playing the lottery for you do not know what you are getting, and people hide their flaws and they do not come out until later, for everybody is on their best behavior when they first get together, for if they were not on their best behavior people would not get together, and the flaws come out later.
Which Jesus said since iniquity shall abound the love of many shall wax cold, which people are more selfish, and arrogant, than in time past.
Technology is the culprit.
Before technology people were basically on the same level, and people viewed people as being basically decent, and caring, and they knew who they were getting in marriage, and trust up high.
But after technology, and time progressed, people pursued the things that advanced, money, and material things in abundance, and selfishness, and arrogance, went up a lot, and people not on the same level, and trust down, and people stopped caring for each other as much, so they do not know what they will get today in marriage for they do not know for sure, for it might take a turn for the worse in the technological times.
So there will be a lot of divorces, and people not getting along, but it is still no excuse for they cannot divorce unless it is for adultery.
Your spouse physically abused you, no divorce for you.
Your spouse bled you dry of all the 10 million dollars you had in the bank that you accumulated before marriage, and was not even sorry for it, no divorce for you.
Your spouse is a raging alcoholic that is mean like the dickens, and cuts you down, and your friends, no divorce for you.
But divorce for adultery is okay because they broke the covenant between them, and if it is not because of adultery then you cannot divorce, but must remain single until your spouse dies.
Maybe they read Mark or Luke which do not include the exception clause.
I read an article that the Greek means He just was not addressing divorce at all, not making an exception for it?
Is there a single example of a Christian in the first several hundred years who believed there was an exception for adultery?
I did read one quote that allowed a divorced man to remarry if his first wife was dovorced. The first marriage was not considered legitimate.
I read an article that the Greek means He just was not addressing divorce at all, not making an exception for it?
Is there a single example of a Christian in the first several hundred years who believed there was an exception for adultery?
I did read one quote that allowed a divorced man to remarry if his first wife was dovorced. The first marriage was not considered legitimate.
Not as miserable as it would be outside the kingdom of God.(Matthew 13:42,50;Revelation 22:14,15)
And there is a solution to this as prescribed by Paul.(I Corinthians 7:10,11)
It is truly sad to see what many persons encounter in marriages which fall apart for one reason or another.God joining persons in marriage actually refers to the institution itself being one in which God is joining one man to one woman.So even though God does help us in choosing a partner anyone who gets married is actually joined by God.
And there is a solution to this as prescribed by Paul.(I Corinthians 7:10,11)
It is truly sad to see what many persons encounter in marriages which fall apart for one reason or another.God joining persons in marriage actually refers to the institution itself being one in which God is joining one man to one woman.So even though God does help us in choosing a partner anyone who gets married is actually joined by God.
As much as we want to try to rationalize how old Jewish Law applies in modern times and places, it just isn’t comparing apples to apples. The women of Christ’ time didn’t have rights or means to support themselves. The women didn’t divorce their husbands. The men could have multiple wives. Women were more like property. They weren’t entitled to half of your assets, I’m not sure if they could even get an inheritance. When a man divorced a woman her situation was bleak.
Yes God hates divorce but these are different times. Let wisdom be every man’s guide and the Spirit convict him accordingly.
Yes God hates divorce but these are different times. Let wisdom be every man’s guide and the Spirit convict him accordingly.
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this is interesting but wonder whos divorcing who.
Because God hates divorce but he also hates adultery ie. people going after idols and other gods cos God is a jealous God. Now God can forgive a lot of things. He can forgive someone who may be physically abusive, after all Jesus forgave those that mocked and crucified him, cos they didnt actually know what they were doing. He can forgive someone who steals money if they are repentant and give it back See .zacheus. He can forgive someone who has demons becasuse he sets people free from them and releases them. But adultery...well why so difficult to forgive that? Well if you claim to love someone and only them and vow to do so until they die but then go off with someone else and join with them as one flesh doesnt that make you a liar and its like you want the other person dead! And plus if you go and commit adultery does that mean the person you commit adultery with also goes and lives with your spouse so theres three of you? i dont think so. Becasue what about the other spouse that person may be married too. Ok so theres four of you involved do you just go on swapping spouses?
And so one makes a mockery of marriage and vows.
When David commited adultery with Bathsehba he not only tried to cover it up and kill uriah or get him killed but she fell pregnant. Ok was it going to be davids child or Urriahs child? Or would this child have two dads? He kept trying to get Uriah to sleep with bathesheba again so nobody would know. Do you think if uriah had found out he would have killed David? Yet David ended up killing Uriah or having a hand in his death.
So heres the thing our God is a jealous God. He knows where adultery can lead.
this is interesting but wonder whos divorcing who.
Because God hates divorce but he also hates adultery ie. people going after idols and other gods cos God is a jealous God. Now God can forgive a lot of things. He can forgive someone who may be physically abusive, after all Jesus forgave those that mocked and crucified him, cos they didnt actually know what they were doing. He can forgive someone who steals money if they are repentant and give it back See .zacheus. He can forgive someone who has demons becasuse he sets people free from them and releases them. But adultery...well why so difficult to forgive that? Well if you claim to love someone and only them and vow to do so until they die but then go off with someone else and join with them as one flesh doesnt that make you a liar and its like you want the other person dead! And plus if you go and commit adultery does that mean the person you commit adultery with also goes and lives with your spouse so theres three of you? i dont think so. Becasue what about the other spouse that person may be married too. Ok so theres four of you involved do you just go on swapping spouses?
And so one makes a mockery of marriage and vows.
When David commited adultery with Bathsehba he not only tried to cover it up and kill uriah or get him killed but she fell pregnant. Ok was it going to be davids child or Urriahs child? Or would this child have two dads? He kept trying to get Uriah to sleep with bathesheba again so nobody would know. Do you think if uriah had found out he would have killed David? Yet David ended up killing Uriah or having a hand in his death.
So heres the thing our God is a jealous God. He knows where adultery can lead.
Divorce is often defeat
In some peoples minds the forming of a couple in a marriage is of less reality than the bringing of a
child into this world.
But it is actually meant to be stronger. You can choose to be married, and choose how you celebrate each other.
I have seen many not learn how to love their other half, and appreciate their contribution to life, but rather get
eaten up with disappointment, criticism and despair. It is hard, but life is only a one off affair, and if we desire to
become mature loving people, marriage is a good way to prove it is possible.
Paul calls us to be a family, and to consider all brothers and sisters in Christ.
You will often understand many have failed to understand intimacy and Jesus, just from the way they behave to
each other, and the way they are happy to take chunks out of others. Not surprisingly such people find marriage hard.
In some peoples minds the forming of a couple in a marriage is of less reality than the bringing of a
child into this world.
But it is actually meant to be stronger. You can choose to be married, and choose how you celebrate each other.
I have seen many not learn how to love their other half, and appreciate their contribution to life, but rather get
eaten up with disappointment, criticism and despair. It is hard, but life is only a one off affair, and if we desire to
become mature loving people, marriage is a good way to prove it is possible.
Paul calls us to be a family, and to consider all brothers and sisters in Christ.
You will often understand many have failed to understand intimacy and Jesus, just from the way they behave to
each other, and the way they are happy to take chunks out of others. Not surprisingly such people find marriage hard.
Marriage is hard because the roles of a husband and a wife are no longer defined. It was supposed to be no longer two, but one. Now it’s no longer two, it’s two plus how many kids you have. Each life is a separate path. The family is divided. There’s no one purpose. Each is encouraged to discover themselves and find happiness. I’m 42 years old and have come across only three examples of traditional marriages where the husband worked and the wife stayed home raising the children and looking after the home. Two couples have gone on to be with the Lord and the third is a guy I work with. He’s the happiest guy I know.
You describe "traditional marriages" as though they are an ideal. Are you advocating such or are you merely sharing examples?
Here's why I ask: prior to the 20th century, "looking after the home" was a whole heck of a lot more work. Obtaining, preserving and preparing food, making and repairing clothing, cleaning home and clothing, caring for and educating children, etc. were all generally considered "women's work". Electricity and appliances radically changed the role of wives. "Traditions" aren't that long-lived.
Here's why I ask: prior to the 20th century, "looking after the home" was a whole heck of a lot more work. Obtaining, preserving and preparing food, making and repairing clothing, cleaning home and clothing, caring for and educating children, etc. were all generally considered "women's work". Electricity and appliances radically changed the role of wives. "Traditions" aren't that long-lived.
You describe "traditional marriages" as though they are an ideal. Are you advocating such or are you merely sharing examples?
Here's why I ask: prior to the 20th century, "looking after the home" was a whole heck of a lot more work. Obtaining, preserving and preparing food, making and repairing clothing, cleaning home and clothing, caring for and educating children, etc. were all generally considered "women's work". Electricity and appliances radically changed the role of wives. "Traditions" aren't that long-lived.
Here's why I ask: prior to the 20th century, "looking after the home" was a whole heck of a lot more work. Obtaining, preserving and preparing food, making and repairing clothing, cleaning home and clothing, caring for and educating children, etc. were all generally considered "women's work". Electricity and appliances radically changed the role of wives. "Traditions" aren't that long-lived.
Presumably its the judges in the divorce court that can decide who can be elgible to divorce, then grant the divorce. I dont knkw how it all works these days in differnt countries but it seems in the olden days one had to prove adultery had taken place before one could obtain a divorce. You couldnt say you just didnt like living with your spouse anymore cos they snored or something.
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The idea is that we learn. If you have sinned in this area let's take steps not to continue to sin or find ourselves in sin again.
Isn't it written, if any one sins let him confess to the Lord and the Lord is just and righteous to forgive him.
And I any one sees a brother in a sin restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness.
My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.
James 5:19-20 NASB
Isn't it written, if any one sins let him confess to the Lord and the Lord is just and righteous to forgive him.
And I any one sees a brother in a sin restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness.
My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.
James 5:19-20 NASB
Also people can separate, or live separately, but actually remain married. Ive seen that happen. In divorce I think they sever that bomd because if they actually remained together, the person couldnt go off and marry anyone else or their spouse might kill them or something. People get restaraining orders etc. its pretty serious to consider divorce.