Do Jews still believe the Messiah is coming?

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Oblio

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The antichrist is Jewish? I see this all the time. I usually don't say something...this time I did. I post about the revival going on in Israel and then someone posts about the Jewish antichrist. I could've predicted it. I think Christians should stick up for Jews but many of them don't.
 
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KrisWampler

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The antichrist is Jewish? I see this all the time. I usually don't say something...this time I did. I post about the revival going on in Israel and then someone posts about the Jewish antichrist. I could've predicted it. I think Christians should stick up for Jews but many of them don't.
What is your take on John referring to unrepentant Jews as "the synagogue of Satan"?
 
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Oblio

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This could be referring to a certain group of biological Jews or "spiritual" Jews. Or perhaps descendants of Canaanites who were not really Jews. My point is that a group does not make a race. I'm just pointing out the racism I see in the church against Jewish people.
 

Nehemiah6

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I'm just pointing out the racism I see in the church against Jewish people.
The situation with Jews is rather complex. It includes (a) ethnicity, (b) religion, (c) culture, and (d) banking. Among the Jews you have the Sephardic (originally from Palestine), the Ashkenazic (from Europe and Russia), the Khazarian (from Central Asia), and the Ethiopian (from Africa). Then you have a range of religious beliefs from Reformed (liberal) to Ultra-Orthodox (very conservative).

Add to that the fact that the majority of Jews in the USA are liberal or outright Communists, and also hate Israel. Add to that the fact that Europe was generally anti-Semitic throughout its history, and Replacement Theology became the norm. Add to that the fact that a very small cabal of extremely wealthy Jews who also happen to be Satanists control world events and world economies (and will support the Antichrist), and you have a rather complex situation.

Then you have some evangelical Christians supporting the secular anti-Christian state of Israel, and confusing everyone. Pastor John Hagee actually believes that Jews do not need to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

'Hagee stated to the Houston Chronicle that he believes Jews have a special covenant with God and do not need to come to the cross for salvation. According to Hagee Jews don't need to be born-again. Mr. Hagee told the Texas newspaper:
"I believe that every Jewish person who lives in the light of the Torah, which is the word of God, has a relationship with God and will come to redemption" (Houston Chronicle, April 30, 1988).
The Houston Chronicle newspaper then quoted Hagee's own shocking words...
"I'm not trying to convert the Jewish people to the Christian faith... In fact, trying to convert Jews is a waste of time. Jews already have a covenant with God and that has never been replaced by Christianity." (Houston Chronicle, April 30, 1988, sec, 6, pg. 1).'
https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Doctrines/john_hagees_heresy.htm
 

lawrence101

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This is why the nature of the Christian towards the Jewish non believer and Israel in general should be a gospel centered ministry to as the word says provoke them to jealousy in the hope they are regrafted again by faith.
It is dangerous for the Christian community to unequally yoke themselves with unbelievers in a way that the John Hagee's encourage. Modern Israel is going the be the epicenter of the AntiChrist system. So much disinformation exists some actually believe that the antichrist will be Muslim. Or the Pope. Beware of deception in the Last Days. Blessings all.
You wouldn't happen to be part of this deception by any chance ?
 
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I mean you tagged me I would think that you are talking to me.....Asking a rhetorical question in this situation after given the information that I posted is the reason why I post in these forums like 2 times in the last decade. But this is a classic way to undermined or dismiss something without actually addressing it. Don't address the points just undermined the person presenting the points.....that is called deception sir.
 
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Oblio

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You gotta watch those Jews...they might steal your birthday!
 
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No im talking to your avatar ...of course im talking to you . There isnt any points to address , it was in response to your "beware of deception in the last days "
So it was the deception comment that made you post....why would you ask if I was being deceptive?
 

Moses_Young

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As to my above post, I must admit that I made a terrible mistake by citing an article by David Duke, an ex KKKer and a bigot. However, I stand by the crux of my thoughts that Jewish atheism is very prevalent among the Jewish race of people and that this can easily be researched on line.
Genetic logical fallacy. Just because someone is evil (or a Democrat/KKK/BLM, or a bigot) doesn't mean they're always wrong. Even Hitler got some things right.
 
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kaylagrl

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Genetic logical fallacy. Just because someone is evil (or a Democrat/KKK/BLM, or a bigot) doesn't mean they're always wrong. Even Hitler got some things right.

Pray tell, what did Hitler get right??
 
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Oblio

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He learned how to efficiently kill innocent people while having the nation look the other way.
 
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kaylagrl

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He learned how to efficiently kill innocent people while having the nation look the other way.

I suppose, the tragedy is many in the nation also took part.
 

Nehemiah6

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He learned how to efficiently kill innocent people while having the nation look the other way.
But isn't that exactly what is happening right now? The whole world is following Hitler's example. And the long-term impact is even greater than what is being reported, since no one knows the end result. When you mess with the DNA and the immune system of the human body, you open a Pandora's Box of ailments and deaths. But that was a part of the plan, and too many people blindly followed the "leaders" (bleeders?).
 

Nehemiah6

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A done up renovated temple no matter how gaudy it looks or how big it is was still infested with idol worship.
However there will be a third temple (for the Antichrist) which will be destroyed, followed by a fourth temple (for God) which will be unpolluted and eternal. See Ezekiel.