Do Jews still believe the Messiah is coming?

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If you want the truth and would be open to understanding ...find time to sit through this:

 
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kaylagrl

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If you want the truth and would be open to understanding ...find time to sit through this:



Does he comb his hair to look like Hitler just to be cute or...? I gave him exactly 1:41 of my time, more than he deserves. Within that time I know exactly what he believes and what he will say. He's simply and utterly wrong. If you do want the truth, it's in the WORD of GOD and not some Hitler look alike on Youtube. smh
 
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KrisWampler

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Does he comb his hair to look like Hitler just to be cute or...? I gave him exactly 1:41 of my time, more than he deserves. Within that time I know exactly what he believes and what he will say. He's simply and utterly wrong. If you do want the truth, it's in the WORD of GOD and not some Hitler look alike on Youtube. smh
What precisely did he say that is objectionable, and upon what basis do you object to it?
 
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Obviously ? No i should think not, jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Only Jesus speaks truth, His word is truth.
You are questioning my intentions rather than the content of the post.....Why just cherry pick verses to fight with folks? I did not say it was obvious because I am beyond reproach rather its obvious because the content of what I said is based on what the word of god says. Lastly I don't owe you any explanations especially ones about my intentions and character. Im done with you. 3 posts not one about the topic.
 
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Premills want their beast king no matter what. The Kingdom is Now ...not sure how they plan on getting in tomorrow when they are claiming JESUS isn't a King yet. They take Daniel's seventy weeks and hand The Covenant to the antichrist ...ridiculous.
 
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"A higher plane," hehe
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If the religious Jews of today truly knew their Scriptures, then they would know that according to their prophet Daniel, the Messiah was supposed to come during the time of Rome's rule. If it was not Jesus of Nazareth, then who?

To the religious Jew: it's not coincidence that the sacrifices have ceased for these last 2,000 years. Messiah came and you missed him, since you did not know your own Scriptures.

The Judaism of today is not the same faith given by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to Moses. During the time of the Babylonian Captivity, it was mingled with aspects of Babylonian mystery religions. This is where the Kabbalah originated.

Most Christians today are woefully ignorant about religious Judaism. Think of it like the corrupt Roman Catholic Church just prior to the Protestant Reformation. The rabbis control the Scriptures and they have buried them with the Talmud - writings of men - which contains curses for any lay person who dares to try to read the Scriptures for themselves. This in violation of God's express command to Joshua that the Jews ought to constantly meditate in the Scriptures and teach them to their children. Religious Judaism absolutely hates Jesus; their writings teach that He was a blasphemer and that He is being boiled alive in human excrement in hell right now. Somehow Christians think we share some kind of brotherhood with religious Jews and we talk about "Judeo-Christian values." These people will excommunicate and disown their own family members if they convert to Christianity.

Modern religious Judaism and the "Zionist" movement attempting to create an earthly kingdom is all Satanic.

And even fewer modern Christians know that the modern "medical" practice of circumcision is an absolute mockery of goyim by the religious Jews. They are laughing at us. We are so controlled that we will mutilate our children's genitalia despite what the Scriptures clearly teach about circumcision - that it is no longer necessary.

During a traditional Jewish circumcision, the wound is cleaned orally. Yes, this is disgusting and illegal, but somehow religious Jews get a free pass. I wonder why. Jewish male children have a high incidence of orally transmitted syphilis due to this practice. God's judgment for a filthy act by a perverted and corrupted religion.

Some of you reading this are going to think I'm crazy, or lying, or whatever. Do your homework then we can talk.
 

tanakh

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There is no such thing as a Jewish race as some people seem to think. The nearest thing one can say is that people born in the state of Israel since its inception in 1948 are Israelis. However this includes Moslems who are definitely not Jewish. Semitic is probably the nearest term one can use for people born there.
 

SomeDisciple

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What precisely did he say that is objectionable, and upon what basis do you object to it?
His explanation of Romans in between 45:00 and 50:00 - to me, that's clearly wrong. National Israel is being heavily discussed in chapters 9, 10, and 11.
He seems to think that if chapter 11 is talking about national Israel, then there is a contradiction with chapter 9.... but that's not the case at all.

He totally breaks up the flow of this scripture in his "explanation" (which doesn't really explain anything).
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Now, I'm not going to pretend like I know 100% what this means... but this suggests to me that there is a partial blindness on Israel as a nation... UNTIL (yeah, Paul's talking about an event that is, relative to him, IN THE FUTURE) the fullness of the gentiles be come in. The blindness is TEMPORARY. So, I don't know what this guy is ranting about. I'm pretty sure Paul is not referring to the church as Israel in these particular Romans passages- this guy is just trying to insert the context of other epistles into Romans.

So, then he goes on to say "Don't confuse the 'fullness of the gentiles' with the 'times of the gentiles'."
They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
He insists they must be different, but doesn't say why... Jerusalem has been trampled on by gentiles since it's destruction... but I think he's trying to say it's destruction was the fulfillment of the "times of the gentiles", but he doesn't really make a good case for it.

He put's his theological opponents on blast for "pride", but he is awful presumptuous himself. If he was actually a former believer of the dispensationalist interpretation, he should have been way better at debunking it. He doesn't make good arguments at all.
 
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kaylagrl

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What precisely did he say that is objectionable, and upon what basis do you object to it?

SomeDisciple did an excellent take before I was able to come back and answer the question. The Bible tells us exactly about the Jews and how they are God's chosen people. This man's opinion isn't worth a pinch of dirt. Tired of people trying to re-write the Bible with their opinions and confusing people.
 
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SophieT

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Pray tell, what did Hitler get right??
so here comes a very inflammatory comment

he was killing Jews...and excusing it by blaming them the way dems blame repubs (I'm neither but even still)

that could not be it of course
 
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SophieT

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Does he comb his hair to look like Hitler just to be cute or...? I gave him exactly 1:41 of my time, more than he deserves. Within that time I know exactly what he believes and what he will say. He's simply and utterly wrong. If you do want the truth, it's in the WORD of GOD and not some Hitler look alike on Youtube. smh
thanks

now I don't have to bother :giggle:
 
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SomeDisciple did an excellent take before I was able to come back and answer the question. The Bible tells us exactly about the Jews and how they are God's chosen people. This man's opinion isn't worth a pinch of dirt. Tired of people trying to re-write the Bible with their opinions and confusing people.
This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Many peoples and the inhabitants of many cities will yet come, 21 and the inhabitants of one city will go to another and say, ‘Let us go at once to entreat the Lord and seek the Lord Almighty. I myself am going.’ 22 And many peoples and powerful nations will come to Jerusalem to seek the Lord Almighty and to entreat him.”

23 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “In those days ten people from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.’”

Zech8:20-23
 

Pilgrimshope

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Jesus fulfilled the OT prophecies to the letter, so as Christians of course we believe the Messiah has already come and now lives as our Redeemer. But I'm wondering whether Jews still believe the Messiah is coming or just what? If so, who are they expecting? What qualities do they believe this person will have?
some who rejected Jesus as messiah are still waiting for him , others who believe Jesus is the. Messiah are waiting for his return and ushering in of the new world

the Jews who rejected Jesus are waiting for an earthly triumph of Jerusalem led by the “messiah “ when Jesus returns though it’s going to end this world and begin a new one
 

Nehemiah6

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Premills want their beast king no matter what. The Kingdom is Now ...not sure how they plan on getting in tomorrow when they are claiming JESUS isn't a King yet. They take Daniel's seventy weeks and hand The Covenant to the antichrist ...ridiculous.
If this post wasn't so full of errors, it would be very funny. No one is handing the "beast king" anything. Bible prophecy is very clear that the Antichrist will be allowed by God to have total control for 3 1/2 years. And Christ will reign over all the earth after destroying the Devil, the Beast, the False Prophet and casting them into the Lake of Fire (created for the Devil and his angels).