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It doesn't matter if there are foreigners in the congregation - speaking in tongues with interpretation comes from God and is for the edification of the church. I believe that God can choose to give a message to a group of believers gathered together to worship him in any manner that He wants to. I do believe in tongues with interpretation in a church gathering and it is for edification of the church. Or else this is a lie: "I would that you all spake with tongues, but rather that you prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaks with tongues unless he interpret that the church may receive edifying." [1 Cor. 14:5] And this is a lie: "But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal." [1 Cor. 12:7]
We know that this part isn't a lie because this is what has turned most away from the manifestation of tongues:
If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that you are mad (babbling)? [1 Cor. 14:23] or this:
How is it then, brethren? when you come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done decently and in order. [1 Cor.14:26] Then the description of how it is to be done follows.
The above is what MOST people see and come to understand when anyone talks about this subject. So since some misuse the manifestation then let's just forget about it and have no part of it . . . just forget that when you speak in tongues you edify yourself spiritually. He that speaks in an tongue edifieth himself: [1 Co. 14:4a] But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the holy spirit. [Jude 20]
<sigh> I am sorry that you believe it serves no purpose.
We know that this part isn't a lie because this is what has turned most away from the manifestation of tongues:
If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that you are mad (babbling)? [1 Cor. 14:23] or this:
How is it then, brethren? when you come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done decently and in order. [1 Cor.14:26] Then the description of how it is to be done follows.
The above is what MOST people see and come to understand when anyone talks about this subject. So since some misuse the manifestation then let's just forget about it and have no part of it . . . just forget that when you speak in tongues you edify yourself spiritually. He that speaks in an tongue edifieth himself: [1 Co. 14:4a] But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the holy spirit. [Jude 20]
<sigh> I am sorry that you believe it serves no purpose.
This view contradicts a few things like....Jesus had already came, fulfilled the will of the Father, died, resurrected, is in heaven and on his throne and PERFECT when Paul writes his Corinthian letters.....Jesus did nit need to be COMPLETED as HE WAS ALREADY COMPLETE...come on...use some common sense...your view and applying it to Christ does not jive!
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You are so proud of speaking in "tongues", so you will surely be just as ready to tell us how many people you have healed and how many poisonous snakes you have handled. Paul shook one off into the fire. C'mon, share with us, "brother"....let us here some testimony from all these people you have saved, from all these people you have healed, from all these people that watched you handling snakes.
You should have listened to this old maxim first, but it's too late for you now.
You should have listened to this old maxim first, but it's too late for you now.
I always find it interesting when a thread like this degrades to this point. Invariably the persons reporting posts as being abusive are just as guilty as the person they are reporting.
That being said, I understand that threads dealing with Continuationism vs Cessationism are bound to get heated because persons on both sides tend to be absolutely convinced of the voracity of their arguments, however when a thread begins to degrade to insults and sarcasm it's time for us to step in.
It is entirely possible to debate a topic (regardless of how divisive the topic) without being insulting, sarcastic, or derogatory towards other members
If this thread continues as it has in recent posts infraction points will be issued to all offenders from this point forward.
That being said, I understand that threads dealing with Continuationism vs Cessationism are bound to get heated because persons on both sides tend to be absolutely convinced of the voracity of their arguments, however when a thread begins to degrade to insults and sarcasm it's time for us to step in.
It is entirely possible to debate a topic (regardless of how divisive the topic) without being insulting, sarcastic, or derogatory towards other members
If this thread continues as it has in recent posts infraction points will be issued to all offenders from this point forward.
Y'know, Dcon, we're so close on so many things. You have a lot going on my friend. 
To expound on your post........ "But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away"....who here will deny that the written word of God is perfect? Who here can deny that the written word of God transcends the need for tongues?
To expound on your post........ "But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away"....who here will deny that the written word of God is perfect? Who here can deny that the written word of God transcends the need for tongues?
your response when you decided to strike with your 2 fangs and big mouth wide open.......slithering through the clovers.......
my response......
your response.....
my response.......
btw i have been "saved" since i read the bible almost 23 years ago dude, the Holy Spirit dawned almost 9 years ago do try and get your story straight! (i don't know it all either but learn everyday....... ask somebody.......sigh.......
your response.......
LOL .......this is how you responded to the above comments i made earlier and you call my post arrogant?
if you are offended by the truth maybe you got a whole different kind of spirit in you and if your gonna act like a little baby you should not jump into debate if you can't do so without getting offended.......
my response......
Sometimes the truth hurts huh? especially when you realize you have been deceived by men into babbling cause you like lies and hate truth? .......please
Climb down from your high horse sir, before someone throws you off it onto your backside!
You're saved barely 9 years and ofcourse you know it ALL! LOL
You're saved barely 9 years and ofcourse you know it ALL! LOL
Nice try baiting me there.......LOL
btw i'm reporting this post of yours here
btw i'm reporting this post of yours here
your response.......
LOL .......this is how you responded to the above comments i made earlier and you call my post arrogant?
if you are offended by the truth maybe you got a whole different kind of spirit in you and if your gonna act like a little baby you should not jump into debate if you can't do so without getting offended.......
8) Charity never fails: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away . . . 10) But when that which is perfect [complete, mature] is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. . . . 12) For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
I still need a word of knowledge at times and in circumstances so I hope God still talks to me and gives me instruction.
Even with scripture, I, by no means know everything but only know in part . . . and I have yet to see scripture "face to face". . . . .
I still need a word of knowledge at times and in circumstances so I hope God still talks to me and gives me instruction.
Even with scripture, I, by no means know everything but only know in part . . . and I have yet to see scripture "face to face". . . . .
That's true . . . he didn't. The gift of holy spirit came on the day of Pentecost when the apostles were instructed to wait for the promise of the Father and they would be baptized with holy Spirit. Then on the day of Pentecost they were all filled and began to speak with other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. First occurrence of speaking in tongues.
We really do need to be careful adding our opinions like this. I guess it's OK if WE get to thinking the Bible really said that... but we may have to answer for anyone we misled by doing this.
Ya see, when we do this, we are no better than some of the TV preachers we put down for THEIR claims because of words THEY added.
Better to simply say, "THIS is what I understand that to mean."
Ya see, when we do this, we are no better than some of the TV preachers we put down for THEIR claims because of words THEY added.
Better to simply say, "THIS is what I understand that to mean."