Do stillborns and deceased babies go to 'hell'

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Mem

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No. God can save anyone anywhere anytime.
Ok then, so if we can't judge righteously concerning grown sinners, how can we expect to be able to with regard toward infants.
 

Magenta

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Ok then, so if we can't judge righteously concerning grown sinners, how can we expect to be able to with regard toward infants.
Infants have nothing to repent of...
 

Cameron143

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Ok then, so if we can't judge righteously concerning grown sinners, how can we expect to be able to with regard toward infants.
I never suggested we could.
 

Mem

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I never suggested we could.
Somehow, I got the impression that you would answer the op in the affirmative, at least for some. If hell and death are equivalent, then my answer would be the same as that, as then it would be obvious, but I understand the question was posed with the lake of fire mind. But it doesn't matter what we think anyway, since none of us will judging the eternal fate of babies.
 

brightfame52

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Babies are born liars out from the womb !

Ps 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

And what does scripture say about Liars ?

Rev 21:8

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

If a baby isnt elect, to hell it will go as a law breaker, as wicked and estranged from God, even unclean
 
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Babies are born liars out from the womb !

Ps 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

And what does scripture say about Liars ?

Rev 21:8

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

If a baby isnt elect, to hell it will go as a law breaker, as wicked and estranged from God, even unclean
How can they be born liars when they haven't learned to speak.
 
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Babies are born liars out from the womb !

Ps 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

And what does scripture say about Liars ?

Rev 21:8
how can a baby speak when there first born.

secondly you seen to be affirming that your doctrine, is proven based on this, or on certain verses that clearly have more meaning than just what you see.

You constantly keep using verses and power phrasing stuff that there going to hell and have not been chosen,

leaving the most important part out that children need a saviour
 

Shilohsfoal

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Do stillborns and babies go to ‘hell’?

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Romans 7:8-11. I was alive once without the law when I was a child... I had no understanding of the law as a child and I was sinless because where there is no law, there is no sin. But when I became old enough to understand the law, sin slew me.

John 9:41 Jesus said, “If you were blind, you would not be guilty of your sin. But now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.

Romas 7:7 … I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.” 8 But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin was dead. 10 Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came [to me], sin sprang to life and I died.

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One is born innocent, and remains so, until one reaches the point where they think they know enough to make a decision about sin/God. Being born into sin, means we live in a world that is predisposed to make sure we make the wrong decision about God. Until they understand and decide, babies have no sin to die from.




Thoughts?
I'm convinced everyone gets buried or cremated.Not just old dead people but dead babies too.
 

Shilohsfoal

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op: stillborn/deceased babies go to hell?:
More thoughts - "David's child with Bathsheba":

"But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him​
back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me. "​
(2 Samuel 12:23)​
Where will David go?:

"Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of​
my life: and I will dwell in The House of The LORD for ever."​
(Psalm 23:6)​
Amen.
David went to a grave.

Acts 2
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
 

Shilohsfoal

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Thanks, the 'dead body', Correct?

More study, if interested:

Hell, Sheol, Hades...

Amen.
Correct
David is dead and buried.

Acts 2
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.


David did not ascend into heaven like Jesus did.He is dead and buried like the verse says.He is in a tomb in Jerusalem.I expect he will be resurected when Israel is resurected.
 
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Its God that is saying they come from the womb speaking lies, your arguing is with God
No I don't agree it's somebody thinking there speaking for God

babies can't lie because they can't speak.

The first word a biby speaks is goi goo or ga ga.

The first proper word they speak is dada or mama.

A babies has no comprehension of lying..

Because why don't you pull up tha scripture that says children as infants are not accountable to God.

And besides you should be following the true jean Calvin who said every man is divinely sown a seed from God and maybe 1 in 100 may flourish...

All your doing is following a false Calvinist
 

Evmur

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Do stillborns and babies go to ‘hell’?

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Romans 7:8-11. I was alive once without the law when I was a child... I had no understanding of the law as a child and I was sinless because where there is no law, there is no sin. But when I became old enough to understand the law, sin slew me.

John 9:41 Jesus said, “If you were blind, you would not be guilty of your sin. But now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.

Romas 7:7 … I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.” 8 But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin was dead. 10 Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came [to me], sin sprang to life and I died.

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One is born innocent, and remains so, until one reaches the point where they think they know enough to make a decision about sin/God. Being born into sin, means we live in a world that is predisposed to make sure we make the wrong decision about God. Until they understand and decide, babies have no sin to die from.




Thoughts?
they are not innocent, they are accounted as innocent, that is to say innocent in God's eyes and that is all important.

... in love they are being taken away from this evil world.
 
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Its God that is saying they come from the womb speaking lies, your arguing is with God
Psalm 139:13

13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb

Was this scripture just for you or everyone

Let me Guess your answer will be God knits people imagination together in there mother's womb to lie
 
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they are not innocent, they are accounted as innocent, that is to say innocent in God's eyes and that is all important.

... in love they are being taken away from this evil world.
Yea they are innocent

Your following a false calvinist to.

Jean Calvin said God divinely sows a seed in everyone and maybe one in one hundred will flourish .

So if jean Calvin recognises everyone is elected to be saved why cant you and @brightfame52 and all other fakse Calvinists.

Then here's the true scripture

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Psalm 139:13

13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb

God divinely sows an imagination in every baby in every womb

So go and get a life the pair of you