Do you believe that God accepts homosexuality or not?

[thecreationtutor]

Defending homosexual is a rationalization process by which people attempt to normalize deviant choices that cannot be justified through any psychological exercise. It is simply an attempt to placate a conscience that cannot harmonize the thing one desires and the moral limitations that prohibit the behavior. Homosexuals are NOT born gay. This is nothing more than an attempt to appeal to the scientific community and call them as a witness against the defense of scripture. Homosexuality is not a biological issue, it is a sin issue. It is not socially acceptable behavior, it is a social and moral disgrace. Homosexuality is not an illness nor is it some type of genetic abnormality. It is certainly not engineered biologically at birth. Homosexuality is a learned behavior and a matter of choice, not a predilection. There is no "pride" in it, nor should it be afforded any measure of dignity. IT IS SIN and in the end it will destroy all who engage in it or stand in its defense. Attempting to explain it away scientifically is simply an attempt to excuse the behavior and marginalize it's shame.

Could not have said it better

In Physiology the have taken it out of mental illness, so what is it, it has to be a Choice then, because if we are just animals and we have the intelligence to know that male and female parts make babies, then the other way is wrong

 

[thecreationtutor]

A better harder question is - how do we love a person who is Homosexual? Knowing that it stems from a lot of past hurts, bad influences, etc that have heightened this sin they choose?

 

[Kreation]

I would say that is the right thing to do......now what would you do if that person refuses to change but wants to still hangout and fellowship with all the so loving Christians?, at what point do you "draw the line"?

Good question. I'd say, first of all in this hypothetical situation, there would be a reason why this person has chosen to come to my church, maybe God inspired or hopefully we are setting a good example or some other reason. Either way it's excellent that this person has chosen my church as there are plenty other churches now in today's society that are pro-gay. Therefore I would be pleased and excited that there is an opportunity for another person to be saved! And that I get to witness it. I love watching baptisms and hearing their testimony, knowing that they grew spiritually stronger in church and I witnessed it a true blessing!

That being said although we don't support the teachings of gay marriage, I would hope we would be subtle and tolerant to that person attending our church and that we would graciously teach the gospel in a loving and open way. Let's face it, we all have something in common and that is we are 'broken' and that's why we are professed christians choosing to repent. ( we were that person once ,seeking Christ)

I certainly hope the person would learn the gospel and furthermore become saved by believing in Christ.
If he/she eventually believes in Christ and confesses it with their heart , I have no doubt that the holy spirit will guide that person.

But to sum it up, your question is where would I draw the line? The answer is, I wouldn't draw the line, God would -if that's his will.

 

[Kreation]

oops, sorry for the repost.....

 

[Canchristiansgetalong]

I believe, like others, that the bible and God condemns acts of homosexuality. The reason I use "acts of homosexuality." Is because I don't think it is wrong to have homosexual or bisexual feelings as temptations. All of us have weakness or sins that look more appealing to us than others. I believe some are born with a desire to be with someone of there own sex. It is something they must fight. There are also some who have desires to abuse others or others who feel a desire to be unfaithful to their spouses. It is a sin to entertaining those desires and even a greater sin to act out on those desires. We are all have evil desires that we have to learn to control. Having sex with someone of our own sex or having sex outside of marriage are both wrong in the sight of God and are sins that will destroy our spirits.

I have a friend who is has recently decided to act out. He is living with a man. He has changed since he has decided to act out. It has obviously been destructive to his spirit. But my husband and I still care for him and treat him kindly. God condemns the sin, not the sinner. Our part is not to judge and to love the person, but we are not to support the sin itself either.

 

[Richie_2uk]

God views there practices as sin. there are plenty of verses in the bible to confirm his reason why it shouldn't be allowed and what he forbids. But that does not say that God does not love Gays, Homosexuals or any kind of types of same sexual partnership. God loves them, as he died on the cross for them just as he died for a paedophile, or a murderer, or a rapist.
God offers those people who sin and practice such horrific, or bad things in there life. To repent of there bad and evil doings.

Why? because he loves us. and wants us to be part of his family. But with all those sins, badness and evilness, that's were God says, hey hang on here there is no room for sin in our family. so therefore its up to those people to refuse or to accept. But God lays out on the table everything for the taking. It's up to people if they want it.

Sin cant live 2 lives in heaven or in God's family. That's why God is creating hell. So the choice is then up to those who sin, whether it's homosexuality or any other ways of being gay. to choose God without the sin and bad practices, or satan with sin, and the sign post and an arrow facing down.

So God loves Gays, he loves homosexuals, Bi's, Lesbians. But the he does not like and forbids the practices, which has no room in God's eyes or his heart.

 

[GreenNnice]

So, who died and made you God ? God said it's a sin. Period. Read your bible, it's in there. But God is not condemning the PERSON who is gay, they are human, don't be silly, it's the ACT , just like ANY OTHER SIN, and, some sins, on Earth, obviously, carry greater consequences, but a sin is a sin is a sin.

They all require ONE thing: going to God for forgiveness and turning from it. We want to bring glory to God in our ACTions on Earth. We WANT to produce fruit, with His Spirit received, living in us, our being "in the Spirit" is the way we live our lives 'differently,' we LIVE our lives solely for Him

This lil' poem just for you Green (cause you're talkin' to yerselfs again in post #16)

Roses are red,...
Violets are blue,...
I'm schizophrenic,...
And so am I

What are you saying, sigh, unclefes. Don't speak cryptic .

Thanks !

 

[Blackson]

Stealing, murder, selfishness, homosexual, lying, gossip and many more are all sins, and God hates them. However, God still loves those who commit such sins that they should come to repentance and be forgiven. If they do not repent and die in their sin, they will be cast in the lake of fire at the judgement day.

 

[Grace-Like-Rain]

@rest of forum: Do you think there's more condemnation for homosexuals in the christian community rather than offering the message of salvation through Christ by example and love, ministering and care?

There is more condemnation toward that way of life than toward many others. The reason for this is because the gay way of life has been touted as good and natural, when in fact it is sinful. There is a HEAVY push for society to accept and approve of homosexuality. If prostitutes were to suddenly rise up and demand that their way of life be accepted as good, I'm sure the Church would respond the same way. The Church's response is a reaction to the gay and lesbian movement. Do we always handle these issues correctly? Of course not... we are human after all. I think many have lashed out in their fear that the movement will damage Christianity, and they are probably right about that. (The damage, not the lashing.)

How would you feel if you walked in a church and there were gay people in the congregation? Would you walk away or sit and listen to their story?

Who is to say that we don't have many people in our churches right now that struggle with this weakness? We need to come alongside them and encourage them, support them, help them. People who fight against this are scared to let anyone know for fear of being condemned, even when they themselves are fighting against it. Of course, those who have submitted to their homosexual desires need to be lovingly corrected, just as anyone who has fallen into unrepentant sin whether it's this, or drug addiction, or alcoholism, or promiscuity.

 

[secularhermit]

Well! This is largely dealt on other threads here. Is this a poll-question or a claim for acceptance?

Many here have posted the problems they dealt and that is not the point when "saved" or forgiven... Is this Hollywood or Holy-land?

Before I knwe the truth, the Bible and its Gospel I did wrong, beyong measure. Do I need to follow God or a want God to folllow me?

Well! He is right when telling me not to sin. The world we live in is part of MY MISTAKEN ways.

 

[breno785au]

I see it as simple as this, like anyone one of us, those who practice homosexuality are unaware of their true identity that God has made them to be. If anyone who practices homosexuality is drawn in to want to know who Jesus Christ is, I say Come to church! Seek God! Allow Him to penetrate your life like the rest of us have! Even if you find yourself wrestling with homosexuality years later, continue to seek, know and discover your identity in Jesus because God knows even myself I wrestled with sexual perversion and masturbation for years after I got born again and God had and has been nothing but patient, loving, graceful and perfect Father towards me through it all, and if we are to be like our Father in heaven then how can we be any less towards those who practice homosexuality?

 

[MissCris]

@rest of forum: Do you think there's more condemnation for homosexuals in the christian community rather than offering the message of salvation through Christ by example and love, ministering and care?

I think that, because Christians are still human, we tend to respond to homosexuals in the same manner they've started to treat us. I'm not saying that every gay person out there is an "in your face" type of person, but the general, publicized attitude of the gay/lesbian community is one of hatred towards anyone who doesn't support/agree with their lifestyle (notice I didn't say "anyone who ATTACKS" their lifestyle- a simple disagreement with it is usually all it takes to get people angry and calling you a bigot).

Do I think it's right for Christians to respond in kind? No.

We are human, imperfect, and emotional. If we are being pushed to believe something that we know isn't right, and then told that we must accept it or we're not displaying much "love" for these people, a lot of us get angry, and speak/act out in anger. Then, of course, we're just proving their point; and from there on, why would they want to listen to anything we might have to say?

 

[GreenNnice]

So, who died and made you God ? God said it's a sin. Period. Read your bible, it's in there. But God is not condemning the PERSON who is gay, they are human, don't be silly, it's the ACT , just like ANY OTHER SIN, and, some sins, on Earth, obviously, carry greater consequences, but a sin is a sin is a sin.

They all require ONE thing: going to God for forgiveness and turning from it. We want to bring glory to God in our ACTions on Earth. We WANT to produce fruit, with His Spirit received, living in us, our being "in the Spirit" is the way we live our lives 'differently,' we LIVE our lives solely for Him

I see it as simple as this, like anyone one of us, those who practice homosexuality are unaware of their true identity that God has made them to be. If anyone who practices homosexuality is drawn in to want to know who Jesus Christ is, I say Come to church! Seek God! Allow Him to penetrate your life like the rest of us have! Even if you find yourself wrestling with homosexuality years later, continue to seek, know and discover your identity in Jesus because God knows even myself I wrestled with sexual perversion and masturbation for years after I got born again and God had and has been nothing but patient, loving, graceful and perfect Father towards me through it all, and if we are to be like our Father in heaven then how can we be any less towards those who practice homosexuality?

Beautiful .


And, no, bro, I ain't hitting on ya

Our identity, IF lost, pray to God, to help YOU find it, which is ALWAYS found in Him.
It's found in His Spirit in us, YOU are "sealed with redemption" because of His Spirit in you. Sealed !

Don't do things that are going to break that seal, but, IF you do, God's grace abounds MUCH more than the sin you do (Romans 7), again and again and again, God forgives you, just like He says we are to forgive others. How many times forgive? Again and again and again.........

...(ellipsis) = repeating something forever. Notice the difference of sin forgiveness compared to HOW many times God wants us to forgive someone who has WRONGED us.

There is a difference. One is 'finite,' and, one, is 'infinite.'

The Lord leads

 

[hospitalpharmacist]

I do respect homosexuals because they are brothers and sisters in Christ like everyone of us. The Bible verses are clear about the fact that homosexuality is a sin and I think we have to pray for these souls and feel mercy for them but I have a doubt. If really homosexuality is a sin, why God permit homosexuality between animals?

 

[GreenNnice]

I do respect homosexuals because they are brothers and sisters in Christ like everyone of us. The Bible verses are clear about the fact that homosexuality is a sin and I think we have to pray for these souls and feel mercy for them but I have a doubt. If really homosexuality is a sin, why God permit homosexuality between animals?

Huh? Uhh, nearly speechless. Nearly! The 'green' cannot be speechless.

This is even more bizarre of a question than some of the things ohzone says to me (Oh, ya, know, I Love ya, milady )

 

[Kreation]

I do respect homosexuals because they are brothers and sisters in Christ like everyone of us. The Bible verses are clear about the fact that homosexuality is a sin and I think we have to pray for these souls and feel mercy for them but I have a doubt. If really homosexuality is a sin, why God permit homosexuality between animals?

That is a good question hospitalpharmacist. Unfortunately we are all born into sin and that includes every living creature.
And yes you are quite right that we must remember to pray for others.

You have a good heart

God bless

 

[MissCris]

If really homosexuality is a sin, why God permit homosexuality between animals?

God permits animals to kill, and yet He tells us not to.
God permits animals to mate with many partners, and yet He tells us not to.

Comparing animal behavior to human behavior just doesn't work.

 

[just-me]

I do respect homosexuals because they are brothers and sisters in Christ like everyone of us. The Bible verses are clear about the fact that homosexuality is a sin and I think we have to pray for these souls and feel mercy for them but I have a doubt. If really homosexuality is a sin, why God permit homosexuality between animals?

Well, with respect, we are not animals, and if people are defined in the Bible as is defined in Romans Chapter 1, I cannot see how a "reprobate mind" can have faith in God, for God gave them up to that so they will continue to do those things that are not His will. In other words, God has given them up to a "reprobate mind" because of the continued practice. It's our job as Christians to point out that truth in scripture so that they will see their error, and turn away from what God hates. He hates it because He loves them. This sin keeps them out of His presence. Please understand this. He hates what keeps us apart from him. He knows a pure heart when He sees it.

Romans 1:21-32 (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
[SUP]27 [/SUP]And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a "reprobate mind", to do those things which are not convenient;
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
[SUP]32 [/SUP]Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

 

[BeanieD]

No one was being mean here. Just stating facts. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 explains this ; "Do you not know that the wicked will ot inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the spirit of our God."
These verses make it plain that Homosexuality is wrong in the eyes of God, but that if we turn away from this then we can be cleansed, made like new. Soesn't mean it will be easy to walk away from this kind of sin, but it isn't impossible either. Not born that way, but that satan uses this to get us away from God. In My opinion only, this is probably the hardest sin to overcome, but we don't haveto do this alone.

Blessings Hootowl

 

[curlyafropuff]

God is so against the sin of homosexuality, that he never sent any prophets to Sodom nor Gomorrah to warn them to turn away from that sin. God calls it an abomination. Romans chapter one says that God gives you up and over to that sin if you dabble in it. The sin of homosexuality is not fornication nor can it ever be- it is an abomination. God refers to anything sexually immoral of the same sex to be an abomination.

Fornication is a sin that can be committed only between a male and a female who are not married.