Do you believe that God accepts homosexuality or not?

[BeanieD]

I would sit and listen to their stories because
all of us have things in our pasts that are uncomfortable.
If others can listen to ours, why cant we listen to them. Plain and simple. It is up to us
with much prayer and wisdom, to try to help them away
from this lifestyle, and show them the way to repentance. If one totaly refuses, then
is time to shake off the dust and move on.

Blessings all

 

[jandian]

The design of the human body actually rejects the idea of homosexuality.

 

[Rickee]

God does not approve of Sin, in any form or fashion. God loves the sinner, but hates all sin. If you accept being Gay or Lesbian, you are not in a relationship with God. He will help you rid yourself of that.Spirit, if you let him.

Today, we keep hearing that Homosexuals.are born that way. That is a lie, straight from Hell. I have experience witnessing what God will do to rid people of this unclean Spirit. I know of 25 Former Gay, Lesbian, and Transvesrites transformed to Heterosexuals as God intended for everyone.

Noone, has to live like that, if they desire to repent and change...

 

[thecreationtutor]

God permits animals to kill, and yet He tells us not to.
God permits animals to mate with many partners, and yet He tells us not to.

Comparing animal behavior to human behavior just doesn't work.

This is good - Also - animals do not sin, nor do they have a sin nature, nor are they created in God's image, and Marriage is a Picture of Christ and the Gospel. But they are cursed with the rest of creation

 

[Josh321]

This is an ongoing debate that has risen into the christian community since the recent law changes. Which has resulted in a lot of divisions in the church.

My question is do you think that God views homosexuality as a sin or not and why? Are some people born homosexual thus making it completely natural and not a choice or is it an inherited sin in which we are born with like the rest of sins and essentially one has to be 'born again'?

I am really interested in people's viewpoints

I apologise if this question has been asked many times before as I am new to this forum.

Thanks for replying in advance

This should not be a debate at all.. the word of God said it's wrong so what is there to debate about? as in the days of sodom and gamorrah so shall it be in the end, men going after strange flesh, there is no such thing as being born homosexual it's a deception by the devil we are born in sin so the devil manipulates us, that is why WE MUST BE BORN AGAIN they have a new nature that Godly nature that sticks to the word of God no matter what

 

[Reformedjason]

Scripture says being homo is a sin. If people say they are born gay , who cares , it changes nothing. I was born a sinner as well. I am still guilty of my sin. My nature makes me lust after women, it it still a sin. Being born gay is still a sin and they need a savior. When they get saved the Holy Spirit will work on sin issues. Does God accept homosexuality? No. Does God accept homosexuals ? Yes they are just sinners like everyone.

 

[Josh321]

Scripture says being homo is a sin. If people say they are born gay , who cares , it changes nothing. I was born a sinner as well. I am still guilty of my sin. My nature makes me lust after women, it it still a sin. Being born gay is still a sin and they need a savior. When they get saved the Holy Spirit will work on sin issues. Does God accept homosexuality? No. Does God accept homosexuals ? Yes they are just sinners like everyone.

no one knows they are sinning until they are born again, because the truth would be in you and you would know what is a sin and what isn't

 

[nogard]

*walks into the topic late*

I'm sorry, but how can you guys say someone's sexual orientation is a sin? That is like saying someone's skin color is a sin. We cannot control who we are sexually attracted to just as we can't control our own skin color. Have any of you straight people ever willed yourself to become attracted to a member of the same sex? I know I haven't (I am straight too). I can't will myself to like guys no matter how hard I try. I only find girls attractive, that's just the way my brain is wired. For a gay person, their brain is wired to be sexually attracted to people of the same sex, just like we are wired to be attracted to people of the opposite sex. How is this a sin? It's like saying having blue eyes is a sin!

 

[Imperfect]

I'd be interested in hearing the people's views on agreeing that homosexuality is not considered a sin.

there is no argument for it not being a sin.

if you are suffering from this, then i recommend much prayer and effort to break free from your sin. must repent.

 

[Reformedjason]

*walks into the topic late*

I'm sorry, but how can you guys say someone's sexual orientation is a sin? That is like saying someone's skin color is a sin. We cannot control who we are sexually attracted to just as we can't control our own skin color. Have any of you straight people ever willed yourself to become attracted to a member of the same sex? I know I haven't (I am straight too). I can't will myself to like guys no matter how hard I try. I only find girls attractive, that's just the way my brain is wired. For a gay person, their brain is wired to be sexually attracted to people of the same sex, just like we are wired to be attracted to people of the opposite sex. How is this a sin? It's like saying having blue eyes is a sin!

Sin is sin. I was born lusting after women. Still a sin. I guess you are not a fan a the bible?

 

[Graybeard]

But to sum it up, your question is where would I draw the line? The answer is, I wouldn't draw the line, God would -if that's his will.

It is definitely His will and He has drawn the line for us as our brother has so well said below:

It is God's Word that draws the line. It is willful disobedience to God's Word. If that person stands in disobedience to His Word then we are instructed what we must do. And it is disobedience to God's Word to allow those who willfully continue to commit such things unrepentant to remain within the congregation.

 

[nogard]

Sin is sin. I was born lusting after women. Still a sin. I guess you are not a fan a the bible?

No, you were not born lusting after women, you were born with a physical/sexual attraction to women. To notice that someone is attractive is one thing, to lust after them is another. Lust is a sin that is based off of the impulse of our attractions, it is not the attraction itself. What's the point I'm trying to make? Lust is a sin that can be repented of or turned away from. But you can't turn away from your attractions. Can you stop yourself from being attracted to women? No, of course not, you will always be attracted to women. Yet you expect gays to somehow do the impossible and stop themselves from being attracted to the same sex? It's physically impossible.

This is not a sin they can repent of, it is a characteristic of their psyche that they have no control over. You might as well be telling them to go change their skin color.

 

[Grace-Like-Rain]

No, you were not born lusting after women, you were born with a physical/sexual attraction to women. To notice that someone is attractive is one thing, to lust after them is another. Lust is a sin that is based off of the impulse of our attractions, it is not the attraction itself. What's the point I'm trying to make? Lust is a sin that can be repented of or turned away from. But you can't turn away from your attractions. Can you stop yourself from being attracted to women? No, of course not, you will always be attracted to women. Yet you expect gays to somehow do the impossible and stop themselves from being attracted to the same sex? It's physically impossible.

This is not a sin they can repent of, it is a characteristic of their psyche that they have no control over. You might as well be telling them to go change their skin color.

What you say may be true in a sense, but they can control their reaction to their attraction, just like heterosexuals. Is it a hard, hard burden to carry? I can't even imagine how hard. But God does tell us that his grace is sufficient for us, and that he will not tempt us above what we can bear.

 

[nogard]

As for the Bible verses against homosexuality, they have all been contested.

The Leviticus verses are easy to argue against. I just have to point out the fact that you are cherry picking one law out of a huge list of laws that no one follows or believes in with any convictions anymore. Laws about fabric mixing and how to handle your period and eating pork are all thrown out the window. No one follows them or gives them any sort of credence, but this law still stands for some reason. I think the mistake that a lot of Christians make is that they believe each Bible verse is speaking to them personally. (One of my favorite examples of this is Jeremiah 29:11. This verse was not stated for all people but just for the Israelites in exile, yet you see this verse quoted all the time during graduations and whatnot.) What you need to understand is that the Mosaic law was meant for the ancient Israelites and that is it. Even modern Jews do not follow this law anymore. Things that are considered a sin in the Mosaic law are no longer considered a sin. So bringing up something from there as evidence is just pointless.

Then there's Romans 1. People need to understand who Paul is talking to and what is going on in Rome at that time. Scholars agree that that passage is referring to the temple prostitution that was rampant during that time, which involved all sorts of sexual immorality (prostitution, sex with idols, etc.). This is what was unnatural. Paul wasn't singling out homosexuality like people think.

And finally all those verses with lists saying fornicators and liars and adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of God (which makes no sense since we all have lied). First of all, no Christian who supports homosexuality is saying they support homosexual promiscuity. That is frowned upon just as much as heterosexual promiscuity. But a loving, monogamous relationship, faithful to each other and to the Lord, and bound by marriage. I don't see where the Bible finds fault with this.

 

[nogard]

oh yeah, and as for Sodom and Gomorrah, here is what Ezekiel 16:49 has to say about that, "Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy."

Woops, I guess it wasn't their rampant homosexuality.

 

[Graybeard]

This is not a sin they can repent of, it is a characteristic of their psyche that they have no control over. You might as well be telling them to go change their skin color.

That is why it is written for us:

Eph 4:22 that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts,
Eph 4:23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
Eph 4:24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.

Php 2:4 Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others.
Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,

 

[Graybeard]

oh yeah, and as for Sodom and Gomorrah, here is what Ezekiel 16:49 has to say about that, "Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy."

Woops, I guess it wasn't their rampant homosexuality.

look at the very next verse...
Eze 16:50 And they were haughty and committed abomination before Me; therefore I took them away as I saw fit.
whoops.......

 

[nogard]

look at the very next verse...
Eze 16:50 And they were haughty and committed abomination before Me; therefore I took them away as I saw fit.
whoops.......

I guess "abomination" is an open invitation to fill in the blank with whatever preconceived notions you had going into that verse. There is no way you can prove that the abomination referenced there is specifically referring to homosexuality. But even if it was referring to sexual promiscuity of some kind, I believe this verse still proves that the sin of Sodom was not homosexuality, but a slew of other sins, most having nothing to do with sexual sin.

 

[Graybeard]

I guess "abomination" is an open invitation to fill in the blank with whatever preconceived notions you had going into that verse. There is no way you can prove that the abomination referenced there is specifically referring to homosexuality. But even if it was referring to sexual promiscuity of some kind, I believe this verse still proves that the sin of Sodom was not homosexuality, but a slew of other sins, most having nothing to do with sexual sin.

Gen 19:5 And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them carnally."
Gen 19:6 So Lot went out to them through the doorway, shut the door behind him,
Gen 19:7 and said, "Please, my brethren, do not do so wickedly!
Gen 19:8 See now, I have two daughters who have not known a man; please, let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you wish; only do nothing to these men, since this is the reason they have come under the shadow of my roof."
Gen 19:9 And they said, "Stand back!" Then they said, "This one came in to stay here, and he keeps acting as a judge; now we will deal worse with you than with them." So they pressed hard against the man Lot, and came near to break down the door.

So they wanted the men, even after Lot offered both his virgin daughters........nothing to do with sexual sin you say...ya right!

 

[nogard]

Gen 19:5 And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them carnally."
Gen 19:6 So Lot went out to them through the doorway, shut the door behind him,
Gen 19:7 and said, "Please, my brethren, do not do so wickedly!
Gen 19:8 See now, I have two daughters who have not known a man; please, let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you wish; only do nothing to these men, since this is the reason they have come under the shadow of my roof."
Gen 19:9 And they said, "Stand back!" Then they said, "This one came in to stay here, and he keeps acting as a judge; now we will deal worse with you than with them." So they pressed hard against the man Lot, and came near to break down the door.

So they wanted the men, even after Lot offered both his virgin daughters........nothing to do with sexual sin you say...ya right!

What exactly are you getting at with this post? This in no way confirms that the abomination mentioned in Ezekiel is homosexuality, and I never said it had nothing to do with sexual sin, I said it had to do with a slew of sins that have nothing to do with sexual sin. Read through Ezekiel again and this time take your blinders off. All of those sins listed have nothing to do with sexual sin, except maybe that last one about abomination, in which I already admitted that it could refer to sexual sin, but the ambiguity of it makes it unknowable what exactly it is in reference to. Please refrain from posting responses if all your going to do is twist people's words.