Do You Commit Sin?

[PennEd]

DiscipleDave said



What voice in your head told you that i think about having sex? i have not said that anywhere at all, so whose voice is telling you that i have said that or even think that. Would it not have been more Godly to merely ask me if that is what i do, before accusing me of thus. i said my body desires to have sex, i do not think about having sex with anyone, i am divorced, and whatever voice told you that i do think such things is an evil voice, telling you lies and things that are not True. Is it not common knowledge to know and understand if you think about sex, you will eventually do it, if you think about chocolate all the time, odds are you are going to eat chocolate. How stupid would it be for me, one who is celibate and wants to remain that way for ever, to think about having sex. i do not do that ignorant thing.



Again, what voice has told you that i believe a person should keep the Law? i do not teach that at all, i teach we are free from the law, that we are not under the law, why then do you now accuse me of teaching thus? i have an article about that topic if you care to read and Truly see where i stand on that issue.
Obey the Old Testament?

Responding to post # 132

What the heck are you talking about? What voices? YOU said :"do you think i no longer desire to fulfill sexual desire of my flesh?"
Tell us how this "desire" manifests itself? Do you have the desire or did you commit ANOTHER knowing sin by lying about having it? If you have the "desire" then you're thinking about it, and Jesus tells us merely thinking about it is sinful. Therefore you are committing sin.

 

[Bowhunter2394]

For as much then as Christ hath Suffered for us in the Flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he/she that hath Suffered in the flesh hath Ceased from sin;
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Arm yourselves with the same mind, flesh crucified daily... as you walk with Him, if your Crucified with Him daily.. you will suffer in the flesh.. indeed! you WILL KNOW IT..!

I am Crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the Life which I now live in the flesh I live by the Faith of the Son of God, who Loved me, and Gave Himself for me.

being Crucified with Him Daily.. no other way.. all other ways to cease from sin are man made... leads to Pharisees and Scribes who find fault in others, 'sin hunters persay..... yet are blind to their own spiritual pride.. indeed... Crucify the flesh, that ol man is still there.. but ye crucify it.. and be led of the Spirit.. indeed! if you know what its like to be Crucified with Him.. your 'flesh'' will let you know its Crucified with Him, this so that His Spirit in you, the Spirit of Christ, His life made manifest in your mortal flesh, which has been crucfied with Him.. is made manifest thru the Testimony and Witness of Christ in you, the Hope of Glory! indeed!

 

[JesusIsAll]

Is it Godly of person not to try to help the one who is confused? i plainly said that i did not understand what was being said, and now you mock me because of my ignorance, is this of God or from someone else? i still forgive and love you brother.

Responding to post # 137

Sorry, but you're just quacking like some other sinless ducks around here, and one can get an overload of a false position, in terms of the whole gospel, of anybody who does not really see their position before Holy Almighty God in their own right, whom, for instance, do not understand Romans 7, which has recently been twisted into a pretzel here by the likes of posters I avoid reading. You are nothing, zero, zip, nada, lights out, without the precious blood of Jesus Christ, the grace that comes by faith, the free gift of God, this to your dying day in this world, or rapture, if you really believe. The Lord Jesus hates self-righteousness, and I know exactly why, because I will always fall far short of the glory of the Holy God that is no respecter of persons. And I have news: this is the same with you. What's hideous is how anybody can deign themselves righteous, such that anybody else would doubt their salvation experience, which is, actually, what some of you "sinless" are doing, spreading legalism that casts doubt on the efficacy of the blood and work of Christ. This is reprehensible. You don't have shortcomings. You have sin. Is that much clearly related?

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Romans 8:1-3
king james version

1.)[There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2)For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3.)For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

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Everyone that has this hope in them seeks to purify themselves.
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Galations 5:20-23
king james version(kjv)

20.)Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21.)Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

22.)But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23.)Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

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We love GOD because he first loved us.
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[Bowhunter2394]

Sorry, but you're just quacking like some other sinless ducks around here, and one can get an overload of a false position, in terms of the whole gospel, of anybody who does not really see their position before Holy Almighty God in their own right, whom, for instance, do not understand Romans 7, which has recently been twisted into a pretzel here by the likes of posters I avoid reading. You are nothing, zero, zip, nada, lights out, without the precious blood of Jesus Christ, the grace that comes by faith, the free gift of God, this to your dying day in this world, or rapture, if you really believe. The Lord Jesus hates self-righteousness, and I know exactly why, because I will always fall far short of the glory of the Holy God that is no respecter of persons. And I have news: this is the same with you. What's hideous is how anybody can deign themselves righteous, such that anybody else would doubt their salvation experience, which is, actually, what some of you "sinless" are doing, spreading legalism that casts doubt on the efficacy of the blood and work of Christ. This is reprehensible. You don't have shortcomings. You have sin. Is that much clearly related?

Cant be me... I no longer duck hunt or hunt birds. thats the ol man....... strictly Bowhunting and Fishing. oh some get really upset at me because I dont birdhunt or own a shotgun anymore.. I DONT FIT THEIR DNA THEOLOGY'.. WHICH would be all about 'guns' guns' guns' in my life.. smh..... INDEED... lolz.. Oh I know my own Wretchedness.. but I also know what its Like to have that flesh, nailed to the tRee.. ohhhhhhh it cries out.. but you keep it Crucified... you havent become 'sinless'.. that ol man is still there.. there is a Law of sin in the flesh. but you walk according to the Spirit as He leads you. .indeed! suffering in the flesh.. its crucifixtion...

They Way is in the Sea, and thy Way is in the Sanctuary! indeed! giggity!

 

[Bowhunter2394]

Romans 8:1-3
king james version

1.)[There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2)For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3.)For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

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Everyone that has this hope in them seeks to purify themselves.
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Galations 5:20-23
king james version(kjv)

20.)Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21.)Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

22.)But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23.)Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

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We love GOD because he first loved us.
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NOT 1/1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 OF AN ounce of Condemnation for those In Christ Jesus , who walk not after the Flesh.. but are LED OF THE SPIRIT.. for as many as those who are Led of the Spirit, they are the Sons and Daughters of God.. indeed!

 

[JesusIsAll]

Cant be me... I no longer duck hunt or hunt birds. thats the ol man....... strictly Bowhunting and Fishing. oh some get really upset at me because I dont birdhunt or own a shotgun anymore.. I DONT FIT THEIR DNA THEOLOGY'.. WHICH would be all about 'guns' guns' guns' in my life.. smh..... INDEED... lolz.. Oh I know my own Wretchedness.. but I also know what its Like to have that flesh, nailed to the tRee.. ohhhhhhh it cries out.. but you keep it Crucified... you havent become 'sinless'.. that ol man is still there.. there is a Law of sin in the flesh. but you walk according to the Spirit as He leads you. .indeed! suffering in the flesh.. its crucifixtion...

They Way is in the Sea, and thy Way is in the Sanctuary! indeed! giggity!

You've got a way with words your own, brother, for some reason remind me of a cyber John the Baptist. (That's a good thing, I think.) What needs to be hammered home is that nobody, but nobody, is putting their pants on differently in the church, or grace would have never been required. We can live without cheapening of the blood of Christ, from the direction that's stating I have my works to impress God, just as much as those who mistake grace for license. Both are serious diseases. Icons need to be smashed, starting with any modern day Pharisees.

 

[JesusIsAll]

NOT 1/1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 OF AN ounce of Condemnation for those In Christ Jesus , who walk not after the Flesh.. but are LED OF THE SPIRIT.. for as many as those who are Led of the Spirit, they are the Sons and Daughters of God.. indeed!

I think you left off a zero.

 

[Bowhunter2394]

the zeros told me they were 'tired'.. lolz.. so I had to stop lolz!

 

[JesusIsAll]

the zeros told me they were 'tired'.. lolz.. so I had to stop lolz!

'Round here, Lord knows I gets weary, too!

 

[eyesonly]

Who knew you could fornicate, abuse, lie, steal, cheat, and beat up the Samaritan as much as you want and wouldn't have to account for it after death? Just don't get caught by the law while you're here on earth.

Nah, something is missing here. I'm sure you'll tell me that if you do these things then you aren't saved, but if all sins are equal in the eyes of the Lord, how can we say that we commit no sin? Doesn't make sense with what I know. Maybe I missed something and no one will be judged that is saved?

No one will be judged that is saved, that is the truth otherwise there is no point of Christ at all. We may be judged as to our rewards in heaven but we will bi-pass the heaven/hell judgement seat for if we don't then that means we are still judged under the law which makes Christ non-existent.

you can't have grace and still be judged on that grace. And whomever doesn't understand the difference in relation to the word of "committing" a sin for the unbelievers, then y'all need to really hunker down in the word everyday until you reach the spirit level of the word which is where God wants us to be rather than I'm the letter of the word.

those who understand the spirit of the word sin far far less than those who are in the letter of the word. For the letter of the word breeds anger, hate, judgment and condemnation whereas the spirit of the word breeds love, compassion, tolerance and kindness.

God is love, and through love we experience everything that is God.

I pray everyone will one day be able to raise themselves to the understanding of the spirit of the word. It is a beautiful place to be, truely heaven on earth.

God bless

 

[Jason0047]

No one will be judged that is saved, that is the truth otherwise there is no point of Christ at all. We may be judged as to our rewards in heaven but we will bi-pass the heaven/hell judgement seat for if we don't then that means we are still judged under the law which makes Christ non-existent.

you can't have grace and still be judged on that grace. And whomever doesn't understand the difference in relation to the word of "committing" a sin for the unbelievers, then y'all need to really hunker down in the word everyday until you reach the spirit level of the word which is where God wants us to be rather than I'm the letter of the word.

those who understand the spirit of the word sin far far less than those who are in the letter of the word. For the letter of the word breeds anger, hate, judgment and condemnation whereas the spirit of the word breeds love, compassion, tolerance and kindness.

God is love, and through love we experience everything that is God.

I pray everyone will one day be able to raise themselves to the understanding of the spirit of the word. It is a beautiful place to be, truely heaven on earth.

God bless

There is no such as one group sinning more than another. There is only one true body of believers in Christ. The Scriptures teach that true believers can cease from sin by suffering in the flesh (1 Peter 4:1). The Scriptures teach that they that are Christ's have crucified the affections and lusts (Galatians 5:24). Jesus says, be ye perfect as His Heavenly Father is perfect. The Father is perfect because He is Holy and does not sin. The author of Hebrews says, without holiness, no man shall see the Lord. Peter says there are certain false believers who cannot cease from sin (2 Peter 2:1, 14).

Now, can believers struggle with sin? Yes. The Parable of the Tax Collector and the Pharisee tell us this is so. But we know the Pharisee did not sin with the thinking he could live however he liked. The Pharisee cried out to God to forgive him. He was desiring mercy and he was not giving God an excuse for his sin. For Jesus began his ministry with the word.... "Repent."; And Jesus defines repentance for us when he said that the Ninevites will rise up in Judgment against this generation because they repented at the preaching of Jonah. If you were to read Jonah chapter 3, you would see that the Ninevites turned from their wicked ways as a part of their repentance.

 

[Jason0047]

There is no such as one group sinning more than another. There is only one true body of believers in Christ. The Scriptures teach that true believers can cease from sin by suffering in the flesh (1 Peter 4:1). The Scriptures teach that they that are Christ's have crucified the affections and lusts (Galatians 5:24). Jesus says, be ye perfect as His Heavenly Father is perfect. The Father is perfect because He is Holy and does not sin. The author of Hebrews says, without holiness, no man shall see the Lord. Peter says there are certain false believers who cannot cease from sin (2 Peter 2:1, 14).

Now, can believers struggle with sin? Yes. The Parable of the Tax Collector and the Pharisee tell us this is so. But we know the Pharisee did not sin with the thinking he could live however he liked. The Pharisee cried out to God to forgive him. He was desiring mercy and he was not giving God an excuse for his sin. For Jesus began his ministry with the word.... "Repent."; And Jesus defines repentance for us when he said that the Ninevites will rise up in Judgment against this generation because they repented at the preaching of Jonah. If you were to read Jonah chapter 3, you would see that the Ninevites turned from their wicked ways as a part of their repentance.

Sorry, meant to say the Tax Collector cried out to God to forgive him (Not the Pharisee).

 

[eyesonly]

There is no such as one group sinning more than another.

my apologies, you are correct here, my thought did not transfer to my fingers the way I intended. Thank you

Now, can believers struggle with sin? Yes. The Parable of the Tax Collector and the Pharisee tell us this is so. But we know the Pharisee did not sin with the thinking he could live however he liked. The Pharisee cried out to God to forgive him. He was desiring mercy and he was not giving God an excuse for his sin.

and this is where we all agree I believe, because no one believes we have a license to sin, and I do not think anyone in Christ makes excuses for their sin and we ask for forgiveness always. And I don't think anyone believes they can just live however they want to either. The division comes when people in Christ are told they are going to hell for sinning by people in Christ who sin themselves. We ask for forgiveness and learn what we did wrong and do our best to not do it again. But always know God loves us and forgives us and it is in that unconditional love from him that we want to do everything we can to please him.
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God bless