DiscipleDave said
Seriously, you doubt that man did not sin. This man was lame for 38 years. 38 YEARS waiting for the moving of the water and ever year someone else stepped in to get healed first. For 38 years he was in that condition, waiting, thinking that he is never going to get healed, never going to be the first one to step in the moving water, thinking he is going to die there. Jesus comes along and heals him and says to him "Go and sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you" you serioursly think that this man sinned again after going through 38 years of suffering and disappointment year after year? You think he went and committed another sin, contrary to what Jesus just instructed him not to do? You do error not knowing or understanding this particular Truth. i assure you that man did not sin again. Do you know how i can know that, because if i can do it, i know that he did it as well. if i can "Go and sin no more" i know you can do that same, all can do that same, you just choose not to do it.
What you say above
This is True, however when you fail to love, you commit sin, and there is where sin is MOST important in a Christians life. If you steal something, you failed to love the person you stole from, you commit sin. This is serious and should not be overlooked. Also the Apostles seem to teach and do teach to get sin out of your life. So then if they are instructing Christians to get rid of the sin that so easily besets you, then it would seem to be pretty important that Christians do so. Scriptures plainly teach "Awake to righteousness and sin not" Strange thing to instruct Christians if all things are lawful for Christians. If all things are lawful for Christians, then why are the Apostles teaching Christians to cease from sinning? You said
Why? i mean, why are you knowingly and willingly doing something that you know full well is against Jesus Christ, yet you choose to do it anyways, my question is WHY? Another question, that particular sin that you knowingly and willingly commit sometimes, can you not cease from it? Then the Question is WHY are you not ceasing from it? Tell me, does that particular sin make Jesus happy or sad? Does that particular sin make you happy and not Jesus?
Sin is evil, wicked, darkness. Christians are to have nothing to do with the likes of that stuff. A little bit of leaven, leaveneth the whole lump. What does Scriptures teach about a tree that produces one small bad fruit? it is a bad tree. That tree can have 1000 good apples, but if it has one little apple that is bad on it, the whole tree is bad, because of that one little bad apple. Is it not written you can only serve one master. So you say Jesus is your Master and Lord, so when satan tempts you to commit that sin that you sometimes knowingly and willingly do, who have you obeyed? Jesus who is saying don't do it, or satan who is saying do it, just make sure you repent afterwards. Who are you obeying?
Consider what happens to a righteous person who commits a sin:
There are Many verses which teach the same thing. This generation does greatly error when they do not look at sin seriously and weed it out of their lives. even the little ones. If i can do it, so can you.
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i do not knowingly or willingly commit any sins. if i do sin, it is not intentionally. Strange thing for Jesus to teach and say to a woman and a man to "Go and sin no more" if that was NOT what they were suppose to do. Is it not written to get rid of the sin that so easily besets you. Why would the Apostles teach us how NOT to sin, if it was not required for us to do so? But here is what sin is though, when you fail to LOVE ONE ANOTHER, you commit sin.
Under the old covenant you commit sin by breaking a law, statutes, or an ordinance. Such as if a person stole something from another, they commit sin because they break the law Thou shalt not steal.
Under the new covenant you commit sin by not Loving one another. Such as if a person stole something from another, they commit sin because they failed to love the one they stole from.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should 1) believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and 2) LOVE ONE ANOTHER, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
Jesus only dwells in those who LOVE ONE ANOTHER, NOT those who fail to LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
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Under the old covenant you commit sin by breaking a law, statutes, or an ordinance. Such as if a person stole something from another, they commit sin because they break the law Thou shalt not steal.
Under the new covenant you commit sin by not Loving one another. Such as if a person stole something from another, they commit sin because they failed to love the one they stole from.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should 1) believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and 2) LOVE ONE ANOTHER, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
Jesus only dwells in those who LOVE ONE ANOTHER, NOT those who fail to LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
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Hey that's pretty good Dave... I still knowingly and willing still sin sometimes. I'm not too concerned with sin in my life, I've learned that the Christian life is about loving God and loving people and has little to do with sin. That was the point of this thread. It's impossible for a believer to commit a sin because all things are lawful for Christians. I think it's a good idea to not sin and I think that's why Jesus told those 2 to go and sin no more.... however I doubt they were able to do it.
What you say above
I've learned that the Christian life is about loving God and loving people and has little to do with sin.
I still knowingly and willing still sin sometimes.
Sin is evil, wicked, darkness. Christians are to have nothing to do with the likes of that stuff. A little bit of leaven, leaveneth the whole lump. What does Scriptures teach about a tree that produces one small bad fruit? it is a bad tree. That tree can have 1000 good apples, but if it has one little apple that is bad on it, the whole tree is bad, because of that one little bad apple. Is it not written you can only serve one master. So you say Jesus is your Master and Lord, so when satan tempts you to commit that sin that you sometimes knowingly and willingly do, who have you obeyed? Jesus who is saying don't do it, or satan who is saying do it, just make sure you repent afterwards. Who are you obeying?
Consider what happens to a righteous person who commits a sin:
- EZEKIEL 3:20: Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity (sin), and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
There are Many verses which teach the same thing. This generation does greatly error when they do not look at sin seriously and weed it out of their lives. even the little ones. If i can do it, so can you.
^i^ Responding to Post # 96