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Tintin

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Us. you me, your boss. A building to worship God is a good thing but it is not the true church
Provided they're all believers in Christ.
 
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Tintin

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there are many persons who donot go to church yet call themseleves christians ,

Is this right or wrong ?
Why do I feel like the headless chicken has flown the coop and headed for the hills?
 
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It's what you feel is best for you, if you choose to attend a church or not.
 

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I never said money is evil, but to take it away will get rid of evil.

Religion is big business and as long as the people attend, the collection plate will be circulated.

But again what keeps us in adherence to this is the comfortabilty of it. Monkey see monkey do.
Giving money to God will take away its evil..
Serving HIM with it, will add up our treasures in Heaven..
 

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And its quite strange that people keep talking about this, That minister wants money, this one is rich and is preaching the gospel of prosperity, etc etc.

Get your life together, Abide in the Lord, stop pointing fingers.!!. When He shows you a false church, bash it not, if it is evil, does not GOD want us to be good? rebuke its evil yes, but scorning or of the sort is not of GOD..
 

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God don't need money. And God don't pay bills.
Spirit, two questions. First do you use money? second are you evil? do you see why your theory is flawed?
 

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Name ONE thing that is evil that it won't take away. Just ONE that I cannot see through to the root of the problem.
When Adam and Eve sinned, it was not due to money ..hehe

in the end days, people will love money more than GOD yes, but they chose so from a lie, a deceit from satan. Ie even if money would be taken away, we still have to deal with winning over other forms of sin..
 
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When the system fails thats when americans will taste REX 84, NDAA, PNAC, PDD51, etc... say hello to MAO!

The only hope is to end the fed, then their system will crumble.

however....there are things that must and will happen before Yahshua can return...
I don't know what these are, lol, but none of these things matter of we can reach the minds of the people. We are 7 billion strong now!
 
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Spirit, two questions. First do you use money? second are you evil? do you see why your theory is flawed?
Yes I use money. No I am not working. And what I teach I teach myself. I understand that until the strong man is bound, we will not be able to spoil his goods.

So until then I as you will continue to serve the law of sin. But I will speak what I believe because with my mind, I serve the law of God.
 

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So if Jesus went to church why are most Christians not going to church ?
can range to pride, thinking they can exist without a gathering, hurt hearts, that belief that WHAT ALL PASTORS WANT IS MONEY(This has sent MANY to hell, and is increasing more and more to it). and a lotttt more reasons... but all in all i would is rooted in deceit, it was a direct commandment from Christ, to gather. We see in the word of God, that the apostles when they spread out to preach the gospel started a church to the believers there. They did not tell them, GOD will teach you personally so you do not need to gather.

Alone A Christian can easily fall, with many, A Christian can easily STAND.. Apostles started out 500 or so in ACTS 1 and 2 and in unity of the Holy Spirit 5000 got saved in one day..

There is absolute strength in numbers.. People do not want to see that, why? the devil is slowly separating them and draining them.

Thank God for ChristianChat.
 
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When Adam and Eve sinned, it was not due to money ..hehe

in the end days, people will love money more than GOD yes, but they chose so from a lie, a deceit from satan. Ie even if money would be taken away, we still have to deal with winning over other forms of sin..
Again when I say money, I'm not only talking about dollar bills. She thought that the fruit would make her wise, profiting over another because of it.

Most christians believe that those who are not christian are not saved. So that by their wisdom, they see gain and respect over another.

Paul also thought this way when he was of the Jews religion of his day. But what he counted as a gain, he discarded as dung in order to gain Christ.
 

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God don't need money. And God don't pay bills.
Brother that was not the intent or meaning behind that post.

Well brother, maybe you should ask the Lord to give you manna from heaven, and have you beat a rock so you may drink of its water so that you may not associate yourself with money(no offence), Because if Money is evil to you and you still use it, is that not Hypocrisy? (get away from them, be ye separate) .

ask the Lord for more clarification on that, but i do not see a more clear verse

You can not serve God and Mammon, Key words CANNOT SERVE

i apologize to the OP, no more posting on cash, diniro, etc etc lol..
 

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Yes I use money. No I am not working. And what I teach I teach myself. I understand that until the strong man is bound, we will not be able to spoil his goods.

So until then I as you will continue to serve the law of sin. But I will speak what I believe because with my mind, I serve the law of God.
I see... well I do not serve God with my mind lol. But I have to wonder the part where Jesus is asked about paying taxes and he says give to ceasor what is ceasors. Jesus also took a coin out of a fishes mouth. I use money, and when I am able I plan on using to live. but I will never be evil because money is only paper and coins, it's what you do with money not the money itself. put money on a table by itself, and it can do nothing and cannot be evil on its own
 
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Brother that was not the intent or meaning behind that post.

Well brother, maybe you should ask the Lord to give you manna from heaven, and have you beat a rock so you may drink of its water so that you may not associate yourself with money(no offence), Because if Money is evil to you and you still use it, is that not Hypocrisy? (get away from them, be ye separate) .

ask the Lord for more clarification on that, but i do not see a more clear verse

You can not serve God and Mammon, Key words CANNOT SERVE

i apologize to the OP, no more posting on cash, diniro, etc etc lol..
One more time. I NEVER said money was evil. It is only paper. I'm just trying to get people to understand that it is only paper as well.



If you can see that we have enough, then the evil manifests itself within the system.
I won't abduct children if there is no money involved.
I will not steal if I have what I need to live.
I wouldn't go to church if I understood that salvation is given to all FREELY!
 
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I see... well I do not serve God with my mind lol. But I have to wonder the part where Jesus is asked about paying taxes and he says give to ceasor what is ceasors. Jesus also took a coin out of a fishes mouth. I use money, and when I am able I plan on using to live. but I will never be evil because money is only paper and coins, it's what you do with money not the money itself. put money on a table by itself, and it can do nothing and cannot be evil on its own
Now ask yourself how many people pay taxes from money they find in fish? Just as the story with Abraham and Isaac, it was the Lord that provided.


And that day comes when we will finally give to Caesar what belongs to him. All the paper and false gods he can have. The value is us! We ARE the gold!
 
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Tintin

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Again when I say money, I'm not only talking about dollar bills. She thought that the fruit would make her wise, profiting over another because of it.

Most christians believe that those who are not christian are not saved. So that by their wisdom, they see gain and respect over another.

Paul also thought this way when he was of the Jews religion of his day. But what he counted as a gain, he discarded as dung in order to gain Christ.
I would hope that all Christians believe such a thing, it's only biblical. Grace is offered to all, but not all respond to God working on them.
 
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I would hope that all Christians believe such a thing, it's only biblical. Grace is offered to all, but not all respond to God working on them.
I cannot make a more clearer point! You believe that by simply being christian, you've somehow gained an advantage over one who is not. This is a product of money and respect of persons.

But the truth is that a christian looks like any other person dead and in the grave.

But the irony is that christians admit to still being sinners! But somehow we believe that christian sinners have a leg up on "other" sinners?
 
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Tintin

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I cannot make a more clearer point! You believe that by simply being christian, you've somehow gained an advantage over one who is not. This is a product of money and respect of persons.

But the truth is that a christian looks like any other person dead and in the grave.

But the irony is that christians admit to still being sinners! But somehow we believe that christian sinners have a leg up on "other" sinners?
Oh, my goodness! This is basic 101. Christians are only better off than non-Christians because Christ is their Lord and his righteous sacrifice makes them saints in the eyes of God. Christians are work-in-progress sinners (worked on by the Holy Spirit to become more like Christ) but also saints because they're covered by Christ's robes of righteousness. This has nothing to do with money or power.
 
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Oh, my goodness! This is basic 101. Christians are only better off than non-Christians because Christ is their Lord and his righteous sacrifice makes them saints in the eyes of God. Christians are work-in-progress sinners (worked on by the Holy Spirit to become more like Christ) but also saints because they're covered by Christ's robes of righteousness. This has nothing to do with money or power.
Thank you for posting the Truth.
This is why I rarely call myself a "Christian". That name refers to a religion. What saves me is not a religion, but a relationship with Christ. I am a believer.

We don't go to church to get saved. We go to church to be comforted and encouraged by the company of other believers, and to be a comfort and encouragement.

The same goes for why we seek to do good and not sin: not for our salvation, but our gratitude for being saved.