Do you support female pastors?
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In I Timothy 2:8, Paul says that he want all men to pray, without anger or division. In I Timothy 2:9, he writes that likewise woman, without overly showiness of dress, but with good works. The point is that there is no verb in this statement. It is a parallel passage. He is instructed women how they ought to pray. His emphasis is seemliness, proper behavior for both men and women. He continues as he speaks of women not having authority over men. He addresses the issue as a matter of seemliness.
As for the instructions in Chapter 3, he addresses women in verse 11. The big question is whether he is supplementing the instructions, placing higher standards for women in leadership, or specifically stating standards for deaconesses.
A final issue is that there were two sets of offices in the NT church: those of ministry and those of authority. The only shared office of both ministry and authority was the apostle.
As for the instructions in Chapter 3, he addresses women in verse 11. The big question is whether he is supplementing the instructions, placing higher standards for women in leadership, or specifically stating standards for deaconesses.
A final issue is that there were two sets of offices in the NT church: those of ministry and those of authority. The only shared office of both ministry and authority was the apostle.
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Acts 2:17- 21
17" 'In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
19I will show wonders in the heaven above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
20The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
21And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.'[c]
17" 'In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
19I will show wonders in the heaven above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
20The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
21And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.'[c]
This is a very good point.
If ever we see a bible verse we don't like, and try to negotiate with it and get around it somehow, claiming that we know the true and original intent of the author, we better be very sure that the 'benefit' of going against the verse in favour of our own interpretation is worth the risk that comes with disobeying God's word.
If ever we see a bible verse we don't like, and try to negotiate with it and get around it somehow, claiming that we know the true and original intent of the author, we better be very sure that the 'benefit' of going against the verse in favour of our own interpretation is worth the risk that comes with disobeying God's word.
Obviously, as these verses show, both women and men will enjoy salvation through God's great plan of redemption. And the Holy Spirit has seen fit to pour out gifts (for example prophecy), on both women and men. But Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ, who received revelation from Jesus Christ, through the Holy Spirit, has made it clear, that women WILL NOT be in positions of authority over men, in the church of God.
