Doctrines that Destroy Lives

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7seasrekeyed

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Locoponydirtman said:
Do you know what I abhor about a pacifist? Their hypocrisy. They will call in the police which are just other humans to commit what they themselves consider a sin. There by imposing their own sin on someone else. According to their philosophy they jeopardize someone else's soul sacrificing them for themselves.
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I think people ...probably most people...have a natural tendency to protect the innocent and those weaker ... obviously I mean normal people and not indoctrinated people although even they might protect their own

something really off, IMO, in a person who wold not lift a finger to help someone they see in need of help

where do they draw the line? are they perhaps just cowards?
 
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oyster67 said:
It is a sad day on CC when people paint Jesus of Nazareth as a violent man. God have mercy on us.
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sorry, but who did that exactly?

let's remember He is also God incarnate and far more than a violent man

Jesus is God...before Abraham was, He is

let us differentiate between hatred, violence and justice

would you not try to help someone who was being beat up by a stronger person?

I know I would

ps: I don't live on CC and I am sure neither do you although some do spend way too much time here for whatever reason

I live in the world and I need God to be who He is and not some hippy from 1965 with flowers around His neck
 
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It is important to know that a true Jew is one who praises God (Yah). This would be all who believe and worthip in spirit and truth, the Jew first and then the Greek. Paul goes into detal aqbout the true praiser os God in Romans. In sometranslation it say the true Jews. Both mean the same.
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Make yourself clearer because you appear to be saying that a Gentile who serve God in spirit and truth is also a Jew and that is incorrect, in Yeshua there is neither Jews, Greeks, nor Gentiles, we are all one in Yeshua. Gentiles are not of the seed of Abraham (meaning lineage), you cannot say you are a Jews. The covenant of the seed of the promise was made made to Abraham and to his seed (Yeshua), you are of the seed of the promise because of Yeshua. Read Galatians carefully and you will see with this being said, the law which has nothing to do with Salvation, nor Justification, nor making one God's righteousness is not done away with as many say. In my study, the law is tied in because Abraham being obedient and kept the law, commandments of God, he lived by faith.
 
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When you read Paul's explanation of what a true Jew is, you will find all who praise God are just that by translation.
In some translations the word, Jew, is translasted to praiser of God……….so by definition of the word, itself, and never by the denominations, all whho love God are praisers of God..that is Jews translated. This is clear, and it was clear. iIf you are not satisfied with my passing on what Paul teaaches and my reading of the Word in Hebrew for myself, then you will dneed to continue unsatisfied at this piont .. God bless you and grand you dHis wisdom, understanding and knowledge for any other version of these is deceitful.
 
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Dave-L said:
Originally the Jews becoming part of the Palestinians. But since the are now the main occupiers, the Palestinians should accimate with them in the occupied territory.
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Jews becoming part of the palestinians, since when? The land was given to Abraham and his descendant from the lineage of Isaiah and Jacob. If God gave it to Israel then those who were in the land prior to the children of Israel entering cannot claim that the land is theirs and that settles it. Their argument is with God not man.
 
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Please elaborate on your statement so I can comment accordingly... “This means it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God; rather, the children of promise are counted as descendants.” (Romans 9:8)
 
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Naaahh, you are not going to keep saying it is not clear when it is in proper terms several times. No arguing from me.

Joh_10:16 (ASV) And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice: and they shall become one flock, one shepherd.
 
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SUNDOWNSAM said:
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Jews becoming part of the palestinians, since when? The land was given to Abraham and his descendant from the lineage of Isaiah and Jacob. If God gave it to Israel then those who were in the land prior to the children of Israel entering cannot claim that the land is theirs and that settles it. Their argument is with God not man.
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They forfeited the land by rejecting Christ. The land belongs to him.

The Land Promises were Conditional

“If you pay attention to these laws and obey them carefully, the LORD your God will keep his agreement and show his love to you, as he promised your ancestors.” Deuteronomy 7:12 (NCV)


Now only through Christ do they continue.

“For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.” (2 Corinthians 1:20) (KJV 1900)

So the promises even then were to the born again and not to the unbelievers.
 
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NOV25 said:
The no remarriage doctrine is false.
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The word divorce, apostasion in the Greek, is only used 3 times in the New Testament, not once by Jesus. Jesus used the term put away, or send away, in the Greek this word is apoluo. Apoluo is used 89 times in the NT, if memory serves, and it’s used just as it’s defined. The dismissal of the crowds, the sending out of the apostles etc. A better word in modern day English, in the context of marriage, would be separate.
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I have much more information on this topic if anyone is sincerely interested.
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I'm interested. Perhaps you could PM me with additional info?
 
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Dave-L said:
They forfeited the land by rejecting Christ. The land belongs to him.

The Land Promises were Conditional

“If you pay attention to these laws and obey them carefully, the LORD your God will keep his agreement and show his love to you, as he promised your ancestors.” Deuteronomy 7:12 (NCV)


Now only through Christ do they continue.

“For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.” (2 Corinthians 1:20) (KJV 1900)

So the promises even then were to the born again and not to the unbelievers.
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Yes the land promises were conditional. Israel is a witness and a demonstration to the peoples of the world. God revealed has his plan to us. Will you please give all of Ezekiel Chapters 36-39 some serious study and ask The Holy Spirit to help. These prophecies are yet to see their fulfilment.
People break covenant but God does not. He will restore them for himself and for his good name not for them.


Ezekiel 39

21 ‘I will display my glory among the nations, and all the nations will see the punishment I inflict and the hand I lay on them.

22 From that day forward the people of Israel will know that I am the Lord their God.

23 And the nations will know that the people of Israel went into exile for their sin, because they were unfaithful to me. So I hid my face from them and handed them over to their enemies, and they all fell by the sword.

24 I dealt with them according to their uncleanness and their offences, and I hid my face from them.

25 ‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will now bring Jacob back from captivity and will have compassion on all the people of Israel, and I will be zealous for my holy name.

26 They will forget their shame and all the unfaithfulness they showed towards me when they lived in safety in their land with no one to make them afraid.

27 When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will be proved holy through them in the sight of many nations.

28 Then they will know that I am the Lord their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind.

29 I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the people of Israel, declares the Sovereign Lord.



God is going to use Israel to prove to them and the world who he is so that from that time forward no one, neither Jew nor Gentile can doubt his identity or question his holiness.


Ezekiel 36

22 ‘Therefore say to the Israelites, “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: it is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone.

23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.
 
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Lucy-Pevensie said:
Yes the land promises were conditional. Israel is a witness and a demonstration to the peoples of the world. God revealed has his plan to us. Will you please give all of Ezekiel Chapters 36-39 some serious study and ask The Holy Spirit to help. These prophecies are yet to see their fulfilment.
People break covenant but God does not. He will restore them for himself and for his good name not for them.


Ezekiel 39

21 ‘I will display my glory among the nations, and all the nations will see the punishment I inflict and the hand I lay on them.

22 From that day forward the people of Israel will know that I am the Lord their God.

23 And the nations will know that the people of Israel went into exile for their sin, because they were unfaithful to me. So I hid my face from them and handed them over to their enemies, and they all fell by the sword.

24 I dealt with them according to their uncleanness and their offences, and I hid my face from them.

25 ‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will now bring Jacob back from captivity and will have compassion on all the people of Israel, and I will be zealous for my holy name.

26 They will forget their shame and all the unfaithfulness they showed towards me when they lived in safety in their land with no one to make them afraid.

27 When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will be proved holy through them in the sight of many nations.

28 Then they will know that I am the Lord their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind.

29 I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the people of Israel, declares the Sovereign Lord.



God is going to use Israel to prove to them and the world who he is so that from that time forward no one, neither Jew nor Gentile can doubt his identity or question his holiness.


Ezekiel 36

22 ‘Therefore say to the Israelites, “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: it is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone.

23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.
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What you are missing is God removed the unbelievers from Israel in the New Covenant. The only remaining Israel is Believers only. Into this Israel we are attached in the space left by the unbelievers. So you need to understand this as you study the OT.
 
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Dave-L said:
What you are missing is God removed the unbelievers from Israel in the New Covenant. The only remaining Israel is Believers only. Into this Israel we are attached in the space left by the unbelievers. So you need to understand this as you study the OT.
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so, do you think that the zionest occupiers in the land caused Israel are fake jews who secretly run the world's money and banks??

just curious , as most folks I have interacted with who have your ( wrong ) opinions about Israel also believe this..
 
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Dave-L said:
What you are missing is God removed the unbelievers from Israel in the New Covenant. The only remaining Israel is Believers only. Into this Israel we are attached in the space left by the unbelievers. So you need to understand this as you study the OT.
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Haven't you finished reading Romans Chapter 11 yet?
Without the replacement goggles telling you what you must believe about it?

I study all 66 books of the Bible. You're merely parroting replacement theology.
Since you refuse to acknowledge scripture and you aren't interested in God's plans I'll leave you to your wilful ignorance.
 
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Lucy-Pevensie said:
Haven't you finished reading Romans Chapter 11 yet?
Without the replacement goggles telling you what you must believe about it?

I study all 66 books of the Bible. You're merely parroting replacement theology.
Since you refuse to acknowledge scripture and you aren't interested in God's plans I'll leave you to your wilful ignorance.
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“And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.” Romans 11:23 (KJV 1900)
 
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gb9 said:
so, do you think that the zionest occupiers in the land caused Israel are fake jews who secretly run the world's money and banks??

just curious , as most folks I have interacted with who have your ( wrong ) opinions about Israel also believe this..
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No. They are Pharisees that stem from the few who escaped AD 70. But remain under God's wrath until the end of time. History bears this out rather well. Only those to whom God extends faith in Christ will be reattached to biblical Israel.

“And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.” Romans 11:23 (KJV 1900)
 
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Magenta said:
I do not understand this sentence. Is it an incomplete thought? Is something missing? Is there a typo?

I would be grateful if you could clarify :)
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Faith Word Baptist Church is an independent church pastored by Steven Anderson who is my opinion is just a hateful man does such. I posted a video of him doing so.
 
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Aerials1978 said:
Faith Word Baptist Church is an independent church pastored by Steven Anderson who is my opinion is just a hateful man does such. I posted a video of him doing so.
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He has a lot of anger in his heart...
...xox...
 
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NOV25 said:
Don’t think I can PM without a paid membership 🤷‍♂️
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Post a link to a website perhaps? Or I can just do the homework myself. Thanks for the heads-up on it.
 
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