Does God accept organ donor and blood transfusion?

[jaybird88]

I've wanted to ask someone about this because I'm vegetarian and I really don't understand. The meat I see in shops, like steaks or other cuts of meat looks to me like there is no blood in it. If I fry or grill a steak or piece of chicken for an omnivorous relative I don't see any blood. It looks to me like the blood is drained. Isn't that the same as Kosher meat?

there is a passage in the bible somewhere about "strangled" meat. i believe it means bleeding out an animal before you butcher it.

like someone else mentioned, at the microscopic level you would think the blood is everywhere. so when the Lord says no blood does He mean every single spec of it down to the last micro drop, or just what you can see, drain and wash away.

 

[renewed_hope]

...and everybody speaking for God....as if they knew ! NO, I am not JW.

We know what God says according to scripture and JW along with other cults have twisted scripture according to what they want to believe.

 

[jaybird88]

We know what God says according to scripture and JW along with other cults have twisted scripture according to what they want to believe.

most that twist scripture do it to make things more convenient not to make their lives harder.

 

[graceNpeace]

idk while blood donation does save lives, I think that God doesn't want us to share our blood with others..(no im not JW)

because a lot of pagans/satanists drink blood and transfuse it using weird rituals between themselves and God did not approve of it....even when the baal worshippers were cutting themselves when they were competing with Elijah, it says the blood gushed out...

while those are not transfusions per se....it frequently discusses how blood is seen as sacred to God in the Bible...whether it's abel's blood crying out from the ground, or blood referenced in revelation about the martyrs or even up to the horse's bridle....

its clear that a human's blood is that own persons blood and is sacred to that person alone and to God....it should not be mingled because of the risk of disease, risk of rejection (certain blood cells have antigens that will kill nonmatching red blood cells types like mixing an A with a B blood donor....

along with the use of blood for pagan/satanic rituals....

I don't believe in organ donation or blood donations.....plus people don't realize that they also genetically map your organ/blood type and enter it into a database.....whether you have certain diseases, blood type, immune deficient or not,

plus it is frequently in the news how only the rich and famous can get "bumped" up the transplant list for organs with certain "donations" to the hospital.....while the poor get stuck waiting for years or eventually dying out....

and before people spout of idiotic comments attacking/name calling...."you're such a bad person because you don't believe in transfusions/transplants"...I do believe that it does save lives and is necessary in some cases but....the argument for God not wanting blood to mingle (esp jews with gentiles) was not just about ethnic purity but also keeping the blood line pure from diseases incurred by these gentiles practicing uncleanness in many ways including by indulging in non kosher foods such as pork which has parasites.....
bottom line...God does not want us to share our blood with others...it is the divinely ordained property of your body alone....

I see that you appear to be from India.
If this is so, then it is very evident how that fact would colour your view of organ donation and blood transfusion!

Basically, in India, blood products and organ donations are controlled by unethical and criminal organisations who buy and sell these products to the highest bidder!
These practises in India are unknown in nearly every Western country that has the infrastructure to allow organ donation.
In India poor people are paid money to donate their kidneys.
Much the same applies to donating blood.
Recipients of the organs and blood are whoever will pay...
So, the situation in India is disgustingly immoral, unethical, and criminal.

That is NOT the situation in most countries that have the medical infrastructure to do to organ transplants and have the capacity ensure blood transfusions are safe.
In every country that I have practised medicine (and yes I do Intensive Care medicine and regularly look after people who become organ donors as well as those who are transplanted, in addition to those who require blood products) organs and blood products are given to those who have the highest clinical need. In particular, organs cannot be bought and sold as happens in India.

There is no such thing as a risk free medical intervention and neither blood transfusions nor organ transplants are exceptions to this. However, it is clear that your understanding of these things is too vague for me to elaborate further.

The same goes for your theological knowledge. I accept your right to hold an opinion, but what you have expressed is so vague, and without evident Biblical foundation, that I cannot even comment rationally on it!
Suffice to say that there is nothing that pertains to New covenant believers in the Bible that is against either the medical use of blood products or organ transplants.

If you really are from India, then you live in a country that purports to be a multi-party democracy. You have a constitutional responsibility to motivate the government of India to deal with the corruption and criminality that is so rife as regards organ and blood product donation...
In between times you could also brush up on your theology...

 

[jaybird88]

I see that you appear to be from India.
If this is so, then it is very evident how that fact would colour your view of organ donation and blood transfusion!

Basically, in India, blood products and organ donations are controlled by unethical and criminal organisations who buy and sell these products to the highest bidder!
These practises in India are unknown in nearly every Western country that has the infrastructure to allow organ donation.
In India poor people are paid money to donate their kidneys.
Much the same applies to donating blood.
Recipients of the organs and blood are whoever will pay...
So, the situation in India is disgustingly immoral, unethical, and criminal.

That is NOT the situation in most countries that have the medical infrastructure to do to organ transplants and have the capacity ensure blood transfusions are safe.
In every country that I have practised medicine (and yes I do Intensive Care medicine and regularly look after people who become organ donors as well as those who are transplanted, in addition to those who require blood products) organs and blood products are given to those who have the highest clinical need. In particular, organs cannot be bought and sold as happens in India.

There is no such thing as a risk free medical intervention and neither blood transfusions nor organ transplants are exceptions to this. However, it is clear that your understanding of these things is too vague for me to elaborate further.

The same goes for your theological knowledge. I accept your right to hold an opinion, but what you have expressed is so vague, and without evident Biblical foundation, that I cannot even comment rationally on it!
Suffice to say that there is nothing that pertains to New covenant believers in the Bible that is against either the medical use of blood products or organ transplants.

If you really are from India, then you live in a country that purports to be a multi-party democracy. You have a constitutional responsibility to motivate the government of India to deal with the corruption and criminality that is so rife as regards organ and blood product donation...
In between times you could also brush up on your theology...

Wow, India is overrun by criminal organizations and if only India could be more like the west. They are for sure two very different cultures. India gained Independence through peaceful non cooperation, and the west gains what they want by destruction and massive blood shed. I read that an Indian farmer commits suicide every twenty minutes because of how western corporations like monsanto have destroyed their agricultural economy. The British subjugated India for close to 200 years, treated the people like garbage, made slaves of them, and extracted ever bit of wealth that they could and if thats not bad enough they were responsible for the division between Hindus and Muslims when they left, two religion/cultures that never had a problem with each other before. Western medical and pharmaceutical corporations are the most corrupt organizations on the planet and when it comes to death and destroyed lives the Indian criminals are not even in the same league.

 

[Ariel82]

well He did give His blood for us on the cross... don't see why He would have a problem us giving it to save another.

Best answer ever,

 

[razor17]

I see that you appear to be from India.
If this is so, then it is very evident how that fact would colour your view of organ donation and blood transfusion!

Basically, in India, blood products and organ donations are controlled by unethical and criminal organisations who buy and sell these products to the highest bidder!
These practises in India are unknown in nearly every Western country that has the infrastructure to allow organ donation.
In India poor people are paid money to donate their kidneys.
Much the same applies to donating blood.
Recipients of the organs and blood are whoever will pay...
So, the situation in India is disgustingly immoral, unethical, and criminal.

That is NOT the situation in most countries that have the medical infrastructure to do to organ transplants and have the capacity ensure blood transfusions are safe.
In every country that I have practised medicine (and yes I do Intensive Care medicine and regularly look after people who become organ donors as well as those who are transplanted, in addition to those who require blood products) organs and blood products are given to those who have the highest clinical need. In particular, organs cannot be bought and sold as happens in India.

There is no such thing as a risk free medical intervention and neither blood transfusions nor organ transplants are exceptions to this. However, it is clear that your understanding of these things is too vague for me to elaborate further.

The same goes for your theological knowledge. I accept your right to hold an opinion, but what you have expressed is so vague, and without evident Biblical foundation, that I cannot even comment rationally on it!
Suffice to say that there is nothing that pertains to New covenant believers in the Bible that is against either the medical use of blood products or organ transplants.

If you really are from India, then you live in a country that purports to be a multi-party democracy. You have a constitutional responsibility to motivate the government of India to deal with the corruption and criminality that is so rife as regards organ and blood product donation...
In between times you could also brush up on your theology...

While India is admittedly corrupt, its not like western countries are so spotless....there is rampant corruption in them....it is just hidden from plain sight....

take david rockefeller....how did he end up with 6-7 heart transplants throughout his life and die at the ripe old age of 101? one word....money....and because of it he was bumped up on the list to get heart transplants over the "less fortunate"

perhaps you should look at the western countries who support the black market in SE Asia in terms of organ transplants and skin grafts....

something you may have come across in medicine is the skin graft product ALLODERM a product from Allergan pharma ( a western company) they were caught buying black market skin grafts from india and nepal.....

from the article:
"
Not just kidney, Basgai used to get Rs 30,000-50,000 for each skin sample he supplied to the agent next in line. He used to pay about Rs 5,000 to the person whose skin was being taken. The agents higher up in the ladder, sell it to various small pathological labs where the tissue is processed. The processed tissue is supplied to bigger labs (some of them are quite reputed) with a licence to export biological derivatives to the US. In the US, these derivatives are developed into Alloderm or similar product, used in various aesthetic surgical procedures....."


https://www.youthkiawaaz.com/2017/0...figured-to-make-rich-men-and-women-beautiful/

Rich people get transplants faster.....

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/yes-rich-people-do-get-donor-organs-faster-112315#2

these are the facts as well.....

 

[razor17]

Wow, India is overrun by criminal organizations and if only India could be more like the west. They are for sure two very different cultures. India gained Independence through peaceful non cooperation, and the west gains what they want by destruction and massive blood shed. I read that an Indian farmer commits suicide every twenty minutes because of how western corporations like monsanto have destroyed their agricultural economy. The British subjugated India for close to 200 years, treated the people like garbage, made slaves of them, and extracted ever bit of wealth that they could and if thats not bad enough they were responsible for the division between Hindus and Muslims when they left, two religion/cultures that never had a problem with each other before. Western medical and pharmaceutical corporations are the most corrupt organizations on the planet and when it comes to death and destroyed lives the Indian criminals are not even in the same league.

most people don't even know that the queen's diamond crown are jewels taken from India...oh but that's not pc to speak about wrongs b/c it's the "the queen" after all...even if she sins its not a sin....rofl....

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...dand-why-british-wont-give-it-back-180964660/

 

[AuntieAnt]

18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, 19 and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God.
20 Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations, 21 “Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle,” 22 which all concern things which perish with the using—according to the commandments and doctrines of men? 23 These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh. [Colossians 2:18-23]

Anyone who attempts to add to the Word of God by incorporating their own practices and demonizing those who won’t worship at that alter are cultists. Man-made religious practices and self-denial of things God has freely given us does no good for our spiritual growth.

Therefore, it's not a sin to donate organs or blood. You are “loving your neighbor as you love yourself” [Mark 12:31] by offering a part of your own life to save theirs, just as Jesus sacrificed Himself to ransom us. And there is no sin in eating meat as the Bible shows us people have always consumed meat. The Father provided it, people thanked Him for it and ate it. In fact, Jesus not only ate fish, he fed the multitudes with it.

Always look to Jesus Christ as our example, not to those who are imposing their personal practices on others. We can’t add anything to what the Lord has already done for us. Just follow Him.

 

[graceNpeace]

While India is admittedly corrupt, its not like western countries are so spotless....there is rampant corruption in them....it is just hidden from plain sight....

take david rockefeller....how did he end up with 6-7 heart transplants throughout his life and die at the ripe old age of 101? one word....money....and because of it he was bumped up on the list to get heart transplants over the "less fortunate"

perhaps you should look at the western countries who support the black market in SE Asia in terms of organ transplants and skin grafts....

something you may have come across in medicine is the skin graft product ALLODERM a product from Allergan pharma ( a western company) they were caught buying black market skin grafts from india and nepal.....

from the article:
"
Not just kidney, Basgai used to get Rs 30,000-50,000 for each skin sample he supplied to the agent next in line. He used to pay about Rs 5,000 to the person whose skin was being taken. The agents higher up in the ladder, sell it to various small pathological labs where the tissue is processed. The processed tissue is supplied to bigger labs (some of them are quite reputed) with a licence to export biological derivatives to the US. In the US, these derivatives are developed into Alloderm or similar product, used in various aesthetic surgical procedures....."


https://www.youthkiawaaz.com/2017/0...figured-to-make-rich-men-and-women-beautiful/

Rich people get transplants faster.....

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/yes-rich-people-do-get-donor-organs-faster-112315#2

these are the facts as well.....

The bottom line is that things in Western countries are done very differently to India as far as medicine goes.
I know that in South Africa a few years ago there was a scandal where kidney transplants were being done in a manner similar to India where organs were being bought and sold and live donors were actually brought from South America - once this was exposed people went to jail, surgeons, hospital administrators, and others. These people broke the law and they paid for it!

In Western countries their transplant programs work by trust and transparency. No one can get paid for donating an organ, either as a live donor or a dead one. Organs are allocated according to clinical criteria, never on the ability to pay.
If these principles are violated then trust with the public is broken and people refuse to donate organs...

Places like Cuba, India, and some former communist countries have medical infrastructure that allows them to perform transplants - however, their laws, and the enforcement of those laws is decidedly lacking, concerning organ transplants.
As a result transplantation in these countries is just riddled with corruption and criminality - it just becomes a business for profit long before clinical issues are ever considered.
South Africa had its flirtation with - hopefully that is the last we will hear about that sort of scandal from South Africa.

As for Western countries supporting the organ black market in SE Asia - you would need to provide proof of that!
I highly doubt any Western Government is complicit in this...
As for individuals and companies however, there are always unscrupulous people willing to do anything to turn a buck so I would not be at all surprised if Westerners are involved...

 

[dcontroversal]

Luke was a doctor and God gives us intelligence for a reason......and who cares what JWs think.....they are not Christian and their Jesus is not the Jesus of the bible.....

 

[Depleted]

most people don't even know that the queen's diamond crown are jewels taken from India...oh but that's not pc to speak about wrongs b/c it's the "the queen" after all...even if she sins its not a sin....rofl....

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...dand-why-british-wont-give-it-back-180964660/

Henry VIII killed my ancestor. A few decades later, another king killed that ancestor's grandson. That's how the Royals got my ancestral land -- Buckingham.

My family got over it centuries ago. Might I suggest you get over it too?

 

[jb]

I have always wonder if God accept giving blood tranfusion and organ donor to someone in need?

Why on earth wouldn't He accept them??

 

[trofimus]

most that twist scripture do it to make things more convenient not to make their lives harder.

Some sects do it to make their lives harder.

Or, to say it better, to make lives of their followers harder.

 

[notuptome]

I've donated 21 gallons of blood. There are a number of cancer patients that have benefited from my donations. Some as children and others as adults but God by His mercy has given them additional life to serve Him or additional space to repent and come to a saving knowledge of Christ.

God is good and I find it goes better when I submit to His will as opposed to asserting my will.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[DustyRhodes1]

I thank the Lord daily for this and other things. 10 plus years ago I had a heart
transplant so God left me here at least for that much more time, His will not mine
be done and I also trust that He guided the surgeon's hand.

 

[Enoch987]

when they take the organs out, the person is not under anesthesia but is paralyzed with a drug so the organ isn't harmed. They used to call a person dead when their heart stopped. In the late 1960's or early 70's, they changed the definition of death to when the brain stops so they could harvest organs.

 

[graceNpeace]

when they take the organs out, the person is not under anesthesia but is paralyzed with a drug so the organ isn't harmed. They used to call a person dead when their heart stopped. In the late 1960's or early 70's, they changed the definition of death to when the brain stops so they could harvest organs.

Every point here is wrong!

Anaesthetic agents do NOT harm the organs!
How else could surgeons implant these organs into organ recipients who are being anaesthetised??!!!?????
Also, getting back to the reason a brain dead organ donor does not receive an anaesthetic - simple, they are brain dead and do not feel a thing.
Muscle relaxants may be used because muscles will contract due to local spinal reflexes which have nothing to do with the brain.
Here is another fact to ponder: many organ donors are LIVING donors, principally kidneys. How do surgeons get the kidneys of those donors?
Without using an anaesthetic?
Give me a break!!!??!!!!

The reason the definition of death was changed was a realisation that brain death was just that - death!
It had NOTHING to do with organ donation.

If you want to argue this then you need to quote reputable peer-reviewed medical journals rather than the tabloid press...

And, just in case you are wondering, I am an Intensive Care doctor who has used those drugs referred to, has looked after patients that turned out to be organ donors, as well as transplant patients. I have also been involved in the decisions to diagnose brain death.

Your post is at best ignorant and at worst malicious

 

[maxwel]

Does God accept organ donor and blood transfusion?


Well, I guess God would accept a donated organ...
but I really don't think he needs it for anything.

 

[graceNpeace]

Does God accept organ donor and blood transfusion?


Well, I guess God would accept a donated organ...
but I really don't think he needs it for anything.

I need you to right comedy routines for me...
Those spectacles you show obviously give you a unique eye on the world!