Does God accept organ donor and blood transfusion?

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blue_ladybug

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Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


Ummm, sorry, but you can eat blood.

Blood Sausage.



Blood pudding





Lesson learned: Always make sure you ask a European what they're serving.

 

razor17

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idk while blood donation does save lives, I think that God doesn't want us to share our blood with others..(no im not JW)

because a lot of pagans/satanists drink blood and transfuse it using weird rituals between themselves and God did not approve of it....even when the baal worshippers were cutting themselves when they were competing with Elijah, it says the blood gushed out...

while those are not transfusions per se....it frequently discusses how blood is seen as sacred to God in the Bible...whether it's abel's blood crying out from the ground, or blood referenced in revelation about the martyrs or even up to the horse's bridle....

its clear that a human's blood is that own persons blood and is sacred to that person alone and to God....it should not be mingled because of the risk of disease, risk of rejection (certain blood cells have antigens that will kill nonmatching red blood cells types like mixing an A with a B blood donor....

along with the use of blood for pagan/satanic rituals....

I don't believe in organ donation or blood donations.....plus people don't realize that they also genetically map your organ/blood type and enter it into a database.....whether you have certain diseases, blood type, immune deficient or not,

plus it is frequently in the news how only the rich and famous can get "bumped" up the transplant list for organs with certain "donations" to the hospital.....while the poor get stuck waiting for years or eventually dying out....

and before people spout of idiotic comments attacking/name calling...."you're such a bad person because you don't believe in transfusions/transplants"...I do believe that it does save lives and is necessary in some cases but....the argument for God not wanting blood to mingle (esp jews with gentiles) was not just about ethnic purity but also keeping the blood line pure from diseases incurred by these gentiles practicing uncleanness in many ways including by indulging in non kosher foods such as pork which has parasites.....
bottom line...God does not want us to share our blood with others...it is the divinely ordained property of your body alone....
 
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jaybird88

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Yo, dude! No one injects animal blood into humans. Try and stay within reality, instead of warping into deeper and deeper fantasy.
what do you think vaccines are made of? lol

The context was dietary laws. You simply warped that into your own very-special agenda that has no place, whatsoever, in reality.
the context is blood, life is in the blood, keep it out of your body. how hard is that to understand? calling it "dietary" doesnt change the fact the blood is forbidden to be put into your body.
then you have the Satanic people that consume blood, not to live on the edge and risk their health lol, they do it to transfer life from one to another. exactly what the Jews were forbidden to do and now you know why.
 
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jaybird88

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idk while blood donation does save lives, I think that God doesn't want us to share our blood with others..(no im not JW)
i dont see why it matters so much what JWs think. JWs also believe Jesus died on the cross, does that mean Jesus did in fact not die on the cross because a JW believes it?
the bible makes it very loud and clear blood is forbidden to mixed in your body. yet so many refuse to believe this and its all based on JWs teach it??? this has to be the goofiest absent minded logic i have ever heard.
 
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God said that the blood is the life.. Jesus said the greatest thing a person can do is to give his life for another...

So when you give blood, you are giving up some of your life for another... Same with an organ donation.. you are giving up part of yourself so someone else can live...
 

trofimus

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i dont see why it matters so much what JWs think. JWs also believe Jesus died on the cross, does that mean Jesus did in fact not die on the cross because a JW believes it?
the bible makes it very loud and clear blood is forbidden to mixed in your body. yet so many refuse to believe this and its all based on JWs teach it??? this has to be the goofiest absent minded logic i have ever heard.
1. JW´witnesses are the only one group believing that, thats why it matters that its just them. They are not trustworthy in any way.

2. OT was given to Jews until Christ. Its commadments had deeper meanings, they were images of reality in Christ.

3. Symbolic separation of blood in food has nothing to do with medical purposes, anyway.
 

Laish

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i dont see why it matters so much what JWs think. JWs also believe Jesus died on the cross, does that mean Jesus did in fact not die on the cross because a JW believes it?
the bible makes it very loud and clear blood is forbidden to mixed in your body. yet so many refuse to believe this and its all based on JWs teach it??? this has to be the goofiest absent minded logic i have ever heard.
This confuses me the Bible permits the eating of meat . Meat has blood in it . Even cooked to the point of shoe leather. The difference is the water is removed and the blood has turned brown. How do you get around that if it is not a prohibition its use in rituals.
Blessings
Bill
 

seoulsearch

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Not to derail the thread, but can people on meds donate blood? Like me, for instance. My blood is full of seizure meds 24/7/365..
Blue,

The Red Cross has a full list of meds that aren't allowed on their website. I think you can access that list even if you aren't signed up to donate, and if not, I'm sure you could send a message there asking someone and they would be happy to help.

The day that you donate, you have to answer a confidential questionnaire each time. You can either sign up and answer it online right before you go to the drive (which saves about 15 minutes at the actual drive.) Once there, you'll be taken to a booth to talk with a staff member. They'll ask some questions and perform some preliminaries (blood pressure, temp, iron levels, etc.), and at one point, leave you alone in the booth to answer the questionnaire in private on a computer if you didn't answer it at home. And yes, you have to answer it every time, even if your med list hasn't change.

At least... this is how it's been handled at the regular local drive that I attend. The website is also very helpful if you have other questions as well. :)
 

seoulsearch

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This confuses me the Bible permits the eating of meat . Meat has blood in it . Even cooked to the point of shoe leather. The difference is the water is removed and the blood has turned brown. How do you get around that if it is not a prohibition its use in rituals.
Blessings
Bill
I was wondering about this too, Bill.

If someone was trying to avoid any ingestion of blood in a dietary fashion, wouldn't they pretty much have to become a vegan?

I was especially thinking of steak, burgers, and so forth. Most like it somewhat pink.

And doesn't pink mean that there is still blood in the meat?

Even eggs... sometimes there is a blood spot when you crack open an egg... Unless you examine every egg that you eat separately on your own...

(I could be wrong... but I was thinking along the same lines as your post, too.)

All I'm saying is, if I saw a person eating a bloody steak while we were at dinner and then telling me that I'm disobeying God for believing in blood transfusions... It would raise not one, but both of my eyebrows.
 
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jaybird88

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1. JW´witnesses are the only one group believing that, thats why it matters that its just them. They are not trustworthy in any way.
so this means anything they say must be wrong? they believe Jesus died on the cross, is this wrong to? do you not see how silly it is to base your thoughts on what a group thinks?

2. OT was given to Jews until Christ. Its commadments had deeper meanings, they were images of reality in Christ.
they were given to Jews and anyone who wished to follow that example. Jesus said His Fathers house was for ALL nations.

3. Symbolic separation of blood in food has nothing to do with medical purposes, anyway.
so commands of the bible are over ruled by mans medical purposes?
 
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jaybird88

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This confuses me the Bible permits the eating of meat . Meat has blood in it . Even cooked to the point of shoe leather. The difference is the water is removed and the blood has turned brown. How do you get around that if it is not a prohibition its use in rituals.
Blessings
Bill
i wouldnt know the fine details of all that. all i know is the bible says no blood, it says to drain the blood, it says blood is forbidden because life is in the blood.
 

Laish

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i wouldnt know the fine details of all that. all i know is the bible says no blood, it says to drain the blood, it says blood is forbidden because life is in the blood.
Honest answer. I appreciate that !
I still believe that it’s about some of the rituals practiced by pagan folks and the spiritual implications of removing ourselves from that ungodly world .
Again thanks for your honest response.
Blessings
Bill
 
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jaybird88

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1. JW´witnesses are the only one group believing that, thats why it matters that its just them. They are not trustworthy in any way.

2. OT was given to Jews until Christ. Its commadments had deeper meanings, they were images of reality in Christ.

3. Symbolic separation of blood in food has nothing to do with medical purposes, anyway.
TF i made a mistake with my other response, the prohibition on blood was not just given to Jews only, it was given to Noah and all nations that came from them.
 

melita916

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JW believe Jesus died on a stake.

Carry on.

:)
 
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jaybird88

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Honest answer. I appreciate that !
I still believe that it’s about some of the rituals practiced by pagan folks and the spiritual implications of removing ourselves from that ungodly world .
Again thanks for your honest response.
Blessings
Bill
maybe blood is what connects our physical body with our spiritual body, i dont really know how it works but i think its something Christian today should take serious and not blow off as something thats not a big deal. it goes back to Noah (maybe earlier) and they are still talking about it in acts.
 
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what do you think vaccines are made of? lol



the context is blood, life is in the blood, keep it out of your body. how hard is that to understand? calling it "dietary" doesnt change the fact the blood is forbidden to be put into your body.
then you have the Satanic people that consume blood, not to live on the edge and risk their health lol, they do it to transfer life from one to another. exactly what the Jews were forbidden to do and now you know why.
 

Alertandawake

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I actually have reasons to be against organ donation, and I will give my reasons, and they are the amount of drugs that the person needs so that the body does not reject the foreign object in their body.

A good friend of mine, when his dad was still alive had a kidney transplant, (cant recall, think it was both kidneys), there was a lot of drugs needed. Now at some point, from what I understand, when those kidneys gave out, never went for another, and just stuck with dialysis.

In order for a body to accept a organ from someone else, one needs those Immunosuppressant Drugs. The fact that people need such powerful drugs in their body to accept a foreign organ tells me a lot.

This is my opinion, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion on this, but I see organ donation as a means for the drug companies to make money of people's suffering.
 
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jaybird88

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I actually have reasons to be against organ donation, and I will give my reasons, and they are the amount of drugs that the person needs so that the body does not reject the foreign object in their body.

A good friend of mine, when his dad was still alive had a kidney transplant, (cant recall, think it was both kidneys), there was a lot of drugs needed. Now at some point, from what I understand, when those kidneys gave out, never went for another, and just stuck with dialysis.

In order for a body to accept a organ from someone else, one needs those Immunosuppressant Drugs. The fact that people need such powerful drugs in their body to accept a foreign organ tells me a lot.

This is my opinion, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion on this, but I see organ donation as a means for the drug companies to make money of people's suffering.
i never thought about this, its interesting that a body, in its natural state the way the Lord designed it, tends to reject the organs. i wonder why?
 

blue_ladybug

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It doesn't happen in EVERY case. Only some.. Probably for the same reason that we get an itchy rash when we get into poison ivy.. lol
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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This confuses me the Bible permits the eating of meat . Meat has blood in it . Even cooked to the point of shoe leather. The difference is the water is removed and the blood has turned brown. How do you get around that if it is not a prohibition its use in rituals.
Blessings
Bill
I've wanted to ask someone about this because I'm vegetarian and I really don't understand. The meat I see in shops, like steaks or other cuts of meat looks to me like there is no blood in it. If I fry or grill a steak or piece of chicken for an omnivorous relative I don't see any blood. It looks to me like the blood is drained. Isn't that the same as Kosher meat?