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If anyone needs a spiritual identification card from any believer, I am afraid he is out of luck. He will only receive the sign of Jonah. For any who believe, anyone who confesses Jesus Christ, Yeshua, as his salvation may only confess this because of having learned by the Holy Spirit. Now if you expect a cd with the entire proceedings of any one salvation, this just "ain't" going to happen. No man comes to the Son unless the Father draws him to Him. Yahweh says it, I believe it, and for me, that settles it.
Yes, once one believes, it is the Spirit within him which verifies what is learned towards the culmination of salvation, eternity with the family of Yahweh, God. Any believer may be deceived briefly, but, as written, nothing will ever be able to take them out of the hand of our Salvation, Jesus Christ. Since you seem to be aware of this, why the post? Stimulation for the brethren?
Yeshua has cared, and cares for us always. In the flesh He came to give the good news, suffer doing it, and dying as the only sacrifice for sin, for all who will receive Him.
He promised to send the Holy Spirit, the Comforter to teach us all we need know.
Keep in mind Isaiah 9, the child born unto us will be called the Everlasting Father, Counselor, Prince of Peace and these cover the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit Who are One.
I have an illustration of how this is, but no man is able to explain this to the satisfaction of all, and there really is no need where there is honest faith.
When someone says Jesus, he is making reference to the Holy Spirit and the Father, again, for They are ONE.
God is so good, all of the time. His ways are not our ways, and oh how grand it is that they are not the same.
We are being perfected to be as He. We will never be He, but to be like Him and with Him forever is just glorious, wonderful. Praise our Dad always, amen.
He promised to send the Holy Spirit, the Comforter to teach us all we need know.
Keep in mind Isaiah 9, the child born unto us will be called the Everlasting Father, Counselor, Prince of Peace and these cover the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit Who are One.
I have an illustration of how this is, but no man is able to explain this to the satisfaction of all, and there really is no need where there is honest faith.
When someone says Jesus, he is making reference to the Holy Spirit and the Father, again, for They are ONE.
God is so good, all of the time. His ways are not our ways, and oh how grand it is that they are not the same.
We are being perfected to be as He. We will never be He, but to be like Him and with Him forever is just glorious, wonderful. Praise our Dad always, amen.
If God did not speak to people today then there would be no salvations because it is God draws men unto Himself so yes, God does speak to people today. However, how He speaks to them is highly debated. Some claim that God only speaks through the written word. However, others say that God also speaks to the heart.
God speaks to people through the pages of the Bible. He no longer needs to "speak" audibly to individuals or groups of people from the heavens or privately. If any one hears a "voice" that they think is coming from God, they are being deceived by satanic or demonic forces. Remember, the scriptures say that: "Satan keeps transforming himself into an angel of light."(2nd Corinthians 11:14). This means that he will use every deceptive means and machination to fool unsuspecting, sincere people into believing that God is speaking audibly to person today. But God isn't operating like that today. Again, no need to because we have the Bible in just about every language and tongue.
Excuse me but God do speak to people audible today
Isaiah 30
20 And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers:
21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.
Acts 8
27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
I am not sure why you insist on separating the Holy Spirit from Jesus in your mind, but it sounds to me as if you are listening to God, however you express that, and not to your fleshly self. I think lots of people listen to their own fleshly reason about what God says, they call it common sense, and God is God not man. Then they call it the spirit of God within them. I don't think you are doing that. But I don't understand your point of separating out the Holy Spirit as not to be listened to. I didn't think that the trinity of God could be severed from each other.
why the desire to avoid knowing God through His revealed Word?
looking for some other way?
i dunno. to each their own.
satan tempted Christ by using Scripture.
God has revealed himself to us in creation - that is evidence that He is God.
He has revealed His plan of salvation, and His Son Jesus Christ in Scripture.
the word is living and active.
looking for some other way?
i dunno. to each their own.
satan tempted Christ by using Scripture.
God has revealed himself to us in creation - that is evidence that He is God.
He has revealed His plan of salvation, and His Son Jesus Christ in Scripture.
the word is living and active.
no He doesn't.
Isaiah 30
20 And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers:
21And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.
Acts 8
27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
when did that happen?
this month?
Isaiah 30
20 And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers:
21And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.
Acts 8
27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
when did that happen?
this month?