Does saved by grace, not under law cancel the 119th Psalm?

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seed_time_harvest said:
Hello EG
:)I meant the law WAS of course established by GOD since It Is HIS WORD but for any man born naturally with the seed of Adam,man could not keep the law so then JESUS fulfilled the law and changed It so that any man that delights In the law after the Inward man would not have to worry about being brought Into captivity to the law of sin because now the Issue would be whosoever believes In the WORD of GOD would receive Grace.

That's why I was wondering why not say GOD established the law of faith
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Ok, I misunderstood, forgive me.
 
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Sketch said:
I didn't say Jesus broke the law. I said he set it aside. You can't break a law that is void.
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Not a single law in the Old Covenant was null and void while Jesus of Nazareth walked on the earth. He was UNDER the Law as a Torah observant Jew, and He came to FULFIL the Law by keeping it perfectly. Which also means that when He healed on the sabbath days, He was showing Israel the full meaning of the sabbath -- rest, worship, and good works.

The Law (the Old Covenant) came to an end on the day that Christ died and said IT IS FINISHED. His shed blood ratified the New Covenant, which went into effect immediately.
 
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preacher4truth said:
So you did whine, but said you didn't? Hmmmm.

The thing is your posts are false and represent error. If you say something agreeable then perhaps you'll get an attaboy. When you continue on and promote the same error, don't learn, complain, whine, refuse correction you'll probably get some thumbs down. Some of us want to make sure you don't spread your error unchecked.

Oh, and I get a lot of those thumbs down things myself, never once thought about reporting them.
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I was getting Thumbs down for post that had nothing to even disagree with.
What are you talking about? You Thumbs Down nearly everything I post.
 
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preacher4truth said:
Bro, seriously, please go do some study on the subject. You're digging yourself deeper into a hole of ignorance, so deep that your pride will never allow you to admit your error.

Please. Stop. Thanks.
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So, you are unable to substantiate your claim that the law fulfilled by keeping it? Why not? (it's not true)
 
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Looks like BaptistBibleBeliever is another one that needs to stop hiding behind Thumbs Down votes and discuss it like a man. What's your beef?
 
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LPT said:
I'm sorry your experiencing that, seems like a lot, I'm not saying your doing any thing wrong or anything like that but maybe it's just a thing of reevaluating your approach to current topics, take a negative and turn it into a positive by maybe responding differently rather than what it's being given for.
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Thanks for your comment. I appreciate it.
I'm getting Thumbs Down votes for nearly everything I post from the OSAS thug gang. They didn't like my opinion and are hoping to run me off the forum. At least that's my conspiracy theory. lol
 
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I was getting Thumbs down for post that had nothing to even disagree with.
What are you talking about? You Thumbs Down nearly everything I post.
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What you do is post something, then it is refuted with Scripture, yet you go on and try to find yet another proof text to bolster your false claims to ad nauseam never paying attention to the fact your view has been proven incorrect.

That's one reason why I thumbs down your posts. You just carry on oblivious to facts and refutation.
 
preacher4truth

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Sketch said:
So, you are unable to substantiate your claim that the law fulfilled by keeping it? Why not? (it's not true)
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I did that several posts back.

First thing this morning. Or yesterday.

Hey, I'm just going to ignore you, but feel free to get in your last word.
 
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Thanks for your comment. I appreciate it.
I'm getting Thumbs Down votes for nearly everything I post from the OSAS thug gang. They didn't like my opinion and are hoping to run me off the forum. At least that's my conspiracy theory. lol
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Your welcome, Hang in there don't let the thumbs concern Ya, their just thumbs.
 
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Sketch what law are you referring to gives me a clue of your confusion.
 
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Lillywolf said:
But do you know what that verse in context is actually telling us?
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This is the interesting thing about this place.

A Bible verse, I am told, never means what it plainly says. Oh, no...
there is always some far flung "context" needed to explain it away.
So, go ahead and insult my intelligence by "correcting me" with your opinion. Thanks.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Not a single law in the Old Covenant was null and void while Jesus of Nazareth walked on the earth. He was UNDER the Law as a Torah observant Jew, and He came to FULFIL the Law by keeping it perfectly. Which also means that when He healed on the sabbath days, He was showing Israel the full meaning of the sabbath -- rest, worship, and good works.

The Law (the Old Covenant) came to an end on the day that Christ died and said IT IS FINISHED. His shed blood ratified the New Covenant, which went into effect immediately.
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I don't see it that way.
I think the law was being slowly dismantled piece by piece as early as when John the Baptist came on the scene.

Luke 16:16
“The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing their way into it.
 
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preacher4truth said:
What you do is post something, then it is refuted with Scripture, yet you go on and try to find yet another proof text to bolster your false claims to ad nauseam never paying attention to the fact your view has been proven incorrect.

That's one reason why I thumbs down your posts. You just carry on oblivious to facts and refutation.
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That's an interesting admission.
"That's one reason" why you thumbs down my posts.
What are the other reasons?
 
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pottersclay said:
Sketch what law are you referring to gives me a clue of your confusion.
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Great question, thanks. Please quote my post next time. I almost overlooked this.

The law that God gave to the Israelites alone through Moses. That's how I define the term "the law".
Does that make sense?

I differentiate between "the law", God's law" and "Christ's law". As does the Apostle Paul. See scripture below. Thanks.

1 Corinthians 9:20-22
To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.
 
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Another 11 revenge votes from Laish. That's 21 or more in about ten minutes.
This is a VERY hate-filled place. Ridiculous.

Another half dozen while I typed this post. I have lost count now. Over two dozen in about ten minutes.
I have never even seen this username before.
 
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Sketch said:
Another 11 revenge votes from Laish. That's 21 or more in about ten minutes.
This is a VERY hate-filled place. Ridiculous.

Another half dozen while I typed this post. I have lost count now. Over two dozen in about ten minutes.
I have never even seen this username before.
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No hate bud . Not really worth my time or effort. just support fro my friends and a bit of a experiment. It took 17 minutes and about 32 seconds.
Blessings
Bill
 
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Laish said:
No hate bud . Not really worth my time or effort. just support fro my friends and a bit of a experiment. It took 17 minutes and about 32 seconds.
Blessings
Bill
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Over two dozen negatives votes in about 20 minutes and then he finally comes on to call me "bud" and say "blessings".
Of the 40 Thumbs Down votes given since he has been here, over 20 were given to me in the last 20 minutes.
He claims no hate. --- I suppose because Christians don't do that. --- Silly me.

In response to this post from me.
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Another 11 revenge votes from Laish. That's 21 or more in about ten minutes.
This is a VERY hate-filled place. Ridiculous.

Another half dozen while I typed this post. I have lost count now. Over two dozen in about ten minutes.
I have never even seen this username before.
 
Laish

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Sketch said:
Over two dozen negatives votes in about 20 minutes and then he finally comes on to call me "bud" and say "blessings".
Of the 40 Thumbs Down votes given since he has been here, over 20 were given to me in the last 20 minutes.
He claims no hate. --- I suppose because Christians don't do that. --- Silly me.

In response to this post from me.
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Another 11 revenge votes from Laish. That's 21 or more in about ten minutes.
This is a VERY hate-filled place. Ridiculous.

Another half dozen while I typed this post. I have lost count now. Over two dozen in about ten minutes.
I have never even seen this username before.
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Ya know my bad I took them back . I will just thumbs up my friends. I apologize.
Blessings
Bill
 
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