Does the Bible claim to be inerrant?
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And what is also interesting to me: While the KJV is obviously a translation from England under the authority of the English king for the English (Anglican) church, I have never met anyone from the UK to be KJVO.
They are always from the USA, Australia or somewhere else. And one KJVO guy here in CC is from Philippines, I think.
They are always from the USA, Australia or somewhere else. And one KJVO guy here in CC is from Philippines, I think.
The greatest preachers of the past four centuries have been King James Bible believers. Billy Sunday is said to have led over one million people to Christ, and he was a KJV believer. Spurgeon, Moody, Whitfield, and Wesley were all KJV men, and the list goes on. God has richly blessed the ministries of such men as these because they stayed busy OBEYING His word rather than questioning its authority.
The fact that you can invent some explanation does not prove that there is no error or that the error has been debunked.
It just proves you have a some kind of imagination ability.
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Example:
Problem: Differences in 4 gospels
Explanation: Everything happened 4times.
Solved? No. Because such explanation is totally unbased.
It just proves you have a some kind of imagination ability.
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Example:
Problem: Differences in 4 gospels
Explanation: Everything happened 4times.
Solved? No. Because such explanation is totally unbased.
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70 and 72 does count, it was 70 for 400 years until the newer translations tried to change it to their occult number.
The real Christ has no beginning, the new age christ does.
Micah 5:2 New International Version (NIV)
2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans[a] of Judah,
out of you will come for me
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
from ancient times.”
How many examples do you need?
The real Christ has no beginning, the new age christ does.
Micah 5:2 New International Version (NIV)
2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans[a] of Judah,
out of you will come for me
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
from ancient times.”
How many examples do you need?
The Bible is the word of God,and Jesus is the Word of God with a capital,and also it means God manifest in the flesh.
The word of God is Him revealing Himself to people by words written in a book,and the Word of God is Him revealing Himself personally by manifesting Himself in flesh and dwelling among humans and speaking to them by His Son,the man Christ Jesus.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God,and the firstborn of all creatures,even though the man Christ Jesus was not born until 4000 years later,for God calls things that have not happened yet,as though they already happened,which all the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
In the beginning was the plan of God to come in the future in flesh,and that plan was with God before He started creating anything,and that plan was God manifest in the flesh.
All things were made with the plan of God to come in flesh,and without that plan God would of not created anything He created,for Jesus is the reason creation is successful,forgiveness of sins,and eternal life,and to judge the wicked angels,and people.
Jesus the Word of God was before the written word was given to humans,for although God already had it planned to give His word in the beginning Jesus is the first plan He had before any other plan,although He already had it all planned in the beginning.
The word of God is Him revealing Himself to people by words written in a book,and the Word of God is Him revealing Himself personally by manifesting Himself in flesh and dwelling among humans and speaking to them by His Son,the man Christ Jesus.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God,and the firstborn of all creatures,even though the man Christ Jesus was not born until 4000 years later,for God calls things that have not happened yet,as though they already happened,which all the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
In the beginning was the plan of God to come in the future in flesh,and that plan was with God before He started creating anything,and that plan was God manifest in the flesh.
All things were made with the plan of God to come in flesh,and without that plan God would of not created anything He created,for Jesus is the reason creation is successful,forgiveness of sins,and eternal life,and to judge the wicked angels,and people.
Jesus the Word of God was before the written word was given to humans,for although God already had it planned to give His word in the beginning Jesus is the first plan He had before any other plan,although He already had it all planned in the beginning.
1. 72 vs 70
I agree that 70 is the right number. But you cannot blame some new translations to translate it as 72, when many Greek manuscripts have 72. Again, its not some kind of "new age Bibles conspiracy", but just a textual choice problem.
2. Micah 5:2 has in Hebrew what NIV, ESV etc say. So you cannot blame the NIV or ESV for translating the Hebrew masoretic text correctly, can you? Rather you can blame the KJV translators of changing the OT text to be more "Christian".
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And neither of above "problems" make Jesus a false Christ. If Jesus was sent by Father to bear our sins, the number of disciples sent to Israel does not change that.
I agree that 70 is the right number. But you cannot blame some new translations to translate it as 72, when many Greek manuscripts have 72. Again, its not some kind of "new age Bibles conspiracy", but just a textual choice problem.
2. Micah 5:2 has in Hebrew what NIV, ESV etc say. So you cannot blame the NIV or ESV for translating the Hebrew masoretic text correctly, can you? Rather you can blame the KJV translators of changing the OT text to be more "Christian".
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And neither of above "problems" make Jesus a false Christ. If Jesus was sent by Father to bear our sins, the number of disciples sent to Israel does not change that.
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And we demonstrated very well by posting and comparing scriptures in one of the previous KJVO threads that the NIV confirms the sovereignty of Jesus Christ. Clearly and with no room for doubt on the part of anyone reading.
Denials of the diety Jesus Christ are coming from the KJVO camp. The NIV is not a "New Age" bible. I don't like saying this but such an accusation can only be made from ignorance. Attacks on the NIV have become quite irrational in nature.
Denials of the diety Jesus Christ are coming from the KJVO camp. The NIV is not a "New Age" bible. I don't like saying this but such an accusation can only be made from ignorance. Attacks on the NIV have become quite irrational in nature.