Does the end justify the means?
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It is clear to me that those who did not vote for Trump in the last election are partially responsible for the greater evil of Biden being in office; even if they did not vote for Biden.
Those who might have voted for Trump but voted for no one are responsible for the greater evil, since if they had voted the lesser evil may have been instituted...of Trump being in office...and thus the greater evil would have been avoided.
This is a "hypothesis" that is not lacking in faith; although it does take into account reality.
Those who might have voted for Trump but voted for no one are responsible for the greater evil, since if they had voted the lesser evil may have been instituted...of Trump being in office...and thus the greater evil would have been avoided.
This is a "hypothesis" that is not lacking in faith; although it does take into account reality.
So you are rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's. Nothing wrong with that bute do not put those who belong to the Kingdom with those who belong to this age, and perhaps you shoul d put your faith in the King and not in in Caesaar.
Any politician is Caesar and not of the Kingdom, no matter how hard he attmpts to enlist God.
Any politician is Caesar and not of the Kingdom, no matter how hard he attmpts to enlist God.
Political rulers qualify as under-shepherds who will rule well if they rule under the authority of Christ.
If they rule under the authority of the antichrist spirit, certain disaster may follow.
2Sa 23:3, The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God.
Therefore, it is the responsibility of believers in a democratic society, to vote in leaders who will be just and ruling in the fear of God (under the authority of Christ's Spirit rather than being influenced by the antichrist spirit).
If they rule under the authority of the antichrist spirit, certain disaster may follow.
2Sa 23:3, The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God.
Therefore, it is the responsibility of believers in a democratic society, to vote in leaders who will be just and ruling in the fear of God (under the authority of Christ's Spirit rather than being influenced by the antichrist spirit).
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Show me one who has ruled well "under Christ." This would be tantamount to making one's own god.
You seem to think anyone who puts Yeshua Jesus above all earthly politicians is agains Him.
I would not vote for any man. I did once, and dI regretted it, Carter. Not because of him but because I voted period.
YOu jusst keep on putting your faith in men, while those who believe will wait on Jesus Yeshua. Our Father waves no national flag, yet they all belong to Him, all.
You seem to think anyone who puts Yeshua Jesus above all earthly politicians is agains Him.
I would not vote for any man. I did once, and dI regretted it, Carter. Not because of him but because I voted period.
YOu jusst keep on putting your faith in men, while those who believe will wait on Jesus Yeshua. Our Father waves no national flag, yet they all belong to Him, all.
Ronald Reagan.
Praying and voting so that a man who is submitted to Christ might obtain the office of President is not putting your faith in men. It is ultimately placing your faith in Christ in the understanding that such a ruler is an extension of Christ.
Because if someone who has the spirit of antichrist is placed into office, they might even be the Antichrist.
Now, you may believe in a pre-trib rapture; so you may not care about whether the Antichrist rules and reigns in your lifetime. But you do not have an airtight case in scripture for a pre-tribulation rapture; there are passages that show forth post-trib and pre-wrath views on the subject.
I wouldn't want to be in the generation, if the rapture is pre-wrath or post-trib, where the Antichrist is allowed to rule and reign.
...he will not be allowed to rule and reign until after "the power of the holy people has been scattered" (Daniel 12:7)...
So, I believe that as long as the church is in the world and has not fallen away from genuine, orthodox faith in Jesus, that the Holy Spirit will be a restraining factor that will keep the Antichrist from ruling and reigning.
"Where there are prophecies, they shall fail...." (1 Corinthians 13:8) therefore the events in Revelation 13 and 14 can be prevented by us for as long as we are on the earth...
It is not inevitable that they should happen in our lifetime...
We can prevent these things from happening by being the salt of the earth...a preserving agent that prevents the world from decaying as it is likened unto a slab of meat that would decay faster if salt were not strewed throughout as a preserving agent.
Praying and voting so that a man who is submitted to Christ might obtain the office of President is not putting your faith in men. It is ultimately placing your faith in Christ in the understanding that such a ruler is an extension of Christ.
Because if someone who has the spirit of antichrist is placed into office, they might even be the Antichrist.
Now, you may believe in a pre-trib rapture; so you may not care about whether the Antichrist rules and reigns in your lifetime. But you do not have an airtight case in scripture for a pre-tribulation rapture; there are passages that show forth post-trib and pre-wrath views on the subject.
I wouldn't want to be in the generation, if the rapture is pre-wrath or post-trib, where the Antichrist is allowed to rule and reign.
...he will not be allowed to rule and reign until after "the power of the holy people has been scattered" (Daniel 12:7)...
So, I believe that as long as the church is in the world and has not fallen away from genuine, orthodox faith in Jesus, that the Holy Spirit will be a restraining factor that will keep the Antichrist from ruling and reigning.
"Where there are prophecies, they shall fail...." (1 Corinthians 13:8) therefore the events in Revelation 13 and 14 can be prevented by us for as long as we are on the earth...
It is not inevitable that they should happen in our lifetime...
We can prevent these things from happening by being the salt of the earth...a preserving agent that prevents the world from decaying as it is likened unto a slab of meat that would decay faster if salt were not strewed throughout as a preserving agent.
Men can be born again of the Holy Spirit; and men who are such are influenced by the Holy Spirit.
Would you rather have a man governing your nation who is influenced by the Holy Spirit, or a man who is influenced by the spirit of antichrist?
I think that a non-answer is to vote for the man with an antichrist spirit by default.
Would you rather have a man governing your nation who is influenced by the Holy Spirit, or a man who is influenced by the spirit of antichrist?
I think that a non-answer is to vote for the man with an antichrist spirit by default.
Why do you continue to attempt to bring our Father to the level of His creation?
We are to live as bst given each of us as making the Kingdom and God our Goal. I will not be brought down from the King to any politician of this age, of the material.
Keep campaigning, and I will keep sharing the Word. You know there is not country on the face of this earth taht owns the Kingdom. Work to be in the Kingdom, not of the earth and this age. God bless you, bye for now.
We are to live as bst given each of us as making the Kingdom and God our Goal. I will not be brought down from the King to any politician of this age, of the material.
Keep campaigning, and I will keep sharing the Word. You know there is not country on the face of this earth taht owns the Kingdom. Work to be in the Kingdom, not of the earth and this age. God bless you, bye for now.
To not usher in the good in politics is to let evil prevail.
God has given us His word; and this is what He has spoken in His word,
2Sa 23:3, The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God.
Therefore, Christians in a democratic society are responsible to vote in those people who are most conformed to the standard given in the verse above; those who are the most just among the candidates and who will rule in the fear of the Lord.
To not vote in the candidate who is influenced by the Spirit, is to allow, by default, the candidate who will rule by the antichrist spirit, to be voted in.
I'm not certain why you cannot see this, @JaumeJ.
Do you want the Antichrist to rule and reign?
Do you want someone with the spirit of antichrist to rule and reign?
At any given period of our nation's history, religious freedom is either upheld or else diminished.
It matters to the spreading of the gospel, therefore, whether we vote into office someone who is for Christianity or else against it.
If the person is for Christianity then we are free to spread the gospel
If the person is against it, we may still be allowed to spread the gospel; but you can be certain that they will be working to squelch our freedoms in due time.
God has given us His word; and this is what He has spoken in His word,
2Sa 23:3, The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God.
Therefore, Christians in a democratic society are responsible to vote in those people who are most conformed to the standard given in the verse above; those who are the most just among the candidates and who will rule in the fear of the Lord.
To not vote in the candidate who is influenced by the Spirit, is to allow, by default, the candidate who will rule by the antichrist spirit, to be voted in.
I'm not certain why you cannot see this, @JaumeJ.
Do you want the Antichrist to rule and reign?
Do you want someone with the spirit of antichrist to rule and reign?
At any given period of our nation's history, religious freedom is either upheld or else diminished.
It matters to the spreading of the gospel, therefore, whether we vote into office someone who is for Christianity or else against it.
If the person is for Christianity then we are free to spread the gospel
If the person is against it, we may still be allowed to spread the gospel; but you can be certain that they will be working to squelch our freedoms in due time.