I hope I can say this right.
I think we need to be careful when talking to people concerning what we have been discussing here.
I remember when I was really struggling with God.
I went to a week multiple church gathering. A bit like Glastonbury but this week was Stonleigh.
There was an alter call and I went forward.
The person assigned to me as such asked the question "What's the problem"
I replied "I feel so distant from God, don't feel he loves me"
He asked me "Do you pray in tongues, to which I said no"
This was his response "Oh you don't pray in tongues, you obviously have not been baptised in the Holy Spirit, if not the You don't have the Holy Spirit in you, have you considered you are not actually saved"
He then asked me "Can I pray for you to speak in tongues and I said yes"
It didn't happen
So what is the consequences of this conversation?
I walk away, shattered and questioning my salvation, thinking it's a sin because I don't pray in tongues, therefore I am not forgiven until I do and if I die before I do where am I going?
I carried that for 20 years.
We need to be very very careful when coming alongside people.
Meggido I am going to mention you here. Having read your posts I am sure you would have said something along the lines of "Do you know God loves you as much as he loves Jesus, now let's see what's behind the scenes"
In fact the majority of the people that I have conversed with on this site would say the same.
Dcon, PeterJ, G777, Stones, EG, and the list could go on and on.
May the Holy Spirit work in is rather than us taking over from the Holy Spirit.